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Old 18 November 2017, 11:48 AM
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I use my Impreza for Gravel Rallying. Occasionally I may use it on tarmac, but mostly gravel events.

I am just changing the Non-DCCD 6-Speed Gearbox for a DCCD 6-Speed so will need a DCCD Controller.

Does anyone on here have experience of using an aftermarket DCCD Controller in competition? There appears to be a big difference between a £120 unit from LDPerformance and $600 unit from DCCDPro.

I know the difference between all the features but in reality I managed without an active diff for a long time and a lot of the features seem overkill to me, and I guess I would end up setting it and leaving it.

Any opinions?

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Old 18 November 2017, 07:16 PM
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Am I asking this question on the wrong forum?

Is this forum mainly ‘fast road’ drivers?
Old 18 November 2017, 07:25 PM
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Your probably going to find tarmac and track experience here but there's a few.

I've got a dccdpro which I really rate! The g sensor splits the corner into segments and plays the diff accordingly. You can then use the thumb wheel to adjust how active it is.

Mapdccd is a more recent beasty. Apparently all the functionality of dccdpro but you can also fettle the maps with a laptop. Might be worth a look.
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Originally Posted by legacy_gtb
Your probably going to find tarmac and track experience here but there's a few.

I've got a dccdpro which I really rate! The g sensor splits the corner into segments and plays the diff accordingly. You can then use the thumb wheel to adjust how active it is.

Mapdccd is a more recent beasty. Apparently all the functionality of dccdpro but you can also fettle the maps with a laptop. Might be worth a look.
Thanks for the reply. I know how they work but wanted some ‘real world’ feedback.

For example: I have never had a problem with handbrake turns but you would think that it was impossible without disconnecting the Centre Diff if you believe everything the adverts tell you!

Maybe this is a question for the Rally forums?
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Maybe your attitude has something to do with it. A lot of knowledgeable people on here and other forums but a bit more courtesy would help. We have a couple of MAPDCCD's installed can't fault them at all. Personally think they are about the best stand alone units you can get and not overpriced either.
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the DCCD systems are the same ones homologated for rally, they have a wire that automatically uncouples the centre diff when the handbrake is pulled.

There is a connection with DCCDPro to continue this functionality, and I'm sure MapDCCD will have one as well as its built into the DCCD transmissions.
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Thank you for your input.

I have now bought an LDPerformance DCCD Controller so will see how I get on.


https://ldperformance.co.uk/product/dccd-controller/
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I have used a MAPDCCD and it is superb probably the best one on the market, I had used a Neetronics before that and I thought it was ok until I changed. My car was 551BHP at the wheels and weighed 1068kg. I used it for hills and sprints and SuperLap Scotland (time attack type event)
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Originally Posted by Arch
I have used a MAPDCCD and it is superb probably the best one on the market, I had used a Neetronics before that and I thought it was ok until I changed. My car was 551BHP at the wheels and weighed 1068kg. I used it for hills and sprints and SuperLap Scotland (time attack type event)
Thank you Arch.

Have you re-programmed it with bespoke maps or do you just leave it to 'do it's own thing??'

What I am really trying to find out is if the advanced technical features are used in 'real life' - Hence the reason why I have gone for pretty much the cheapest / simplest version as I have managed without an active diff until now so my assumption is that even being able to change the traction balance front to rear will probably seem amazing!

I have been testing in a Prodrive Impreza and noticed that the driver never changed the active diff setting (thumbwheel only) until a driveshaft broke and he needed to make other wheels drive to get back.
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Surely for rallying you want the Alcatek Dccd controller. That's what a lot of the top club level boys are using
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You can get different maps if you go direct to them I know they have don even a map that utilises a steering angle input. As well as the four maps that come with it you gain also alter the gain for each map which can make a huge difference in how it performs.
I know even the Syvecs control strategies don't seem to be as good as the these and are certainly not as easy or quick to adjust in real time

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Thank you Arch.

Have you re-programmed it with bespoke maps or do you just leave it to 'do it's own thing??'

What I am really trying to find out is if the advanced technical features are used in 'real life' - Hence the reason why I have gone for pretty much the cheapest / simplest version as I have managed without an active diff until now so my assumption is that even being able to change the traction balance front to rear will probably seem amazing!

I have been testing in a Prodrive Impreza and noticed that the driver never changed the active diff setting (thumbwheel only) until a driveshaft broke and he needed to make other wheels drive to get back.




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