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Old 03 February 2017, 10:11 AM   #1
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We've papier mache walls where this attaches to , and already pulled out the middle bracket ( 1 week in)

short of large wooden boards to spread the load is there any better possibility ( I can see pulling this off wall as well) , the plaster board feels like less than the average 9mm !
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Old 03 February 2017, 10:19 AM   #2
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what kind of brackets do you have ?
the weight of a set of curtains 4 meters wide will take some holding, so you need a decent fixing, Id be tempted to draw round the brackets, and actually cut out the plasterboard, block out the gap (wood) and fix into the actual bricks, drill thru the wood so it is just a spacer,
butterflies etc will pull through.
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Old 03 February 2017, 10:27 AM   #3
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gosh , yes that would be the foolproof method !

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Old 03 February 2017, 10:29 AM   #4
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Old 03 February 2017, 11:14 AM   #5
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What's chances finding concrete lintel having said that !


I guess board adhesived wooden bits would still be stronger

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Old 03 February 2017, 11:56 AM   #6
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Right , just discovered plasterboard is 4" off the lintel
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You will have to put a batten full length really, with a lot of fixings,
is it really a 100 mm gap ?
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Old 03 February 2017, 12:47 PM   #8
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Yep, well it is in the middle, just stuck knitting needle through pulled out rawl plug hole
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Can you not find the wooden battens to which the plasterboard is attached, they must be attached to the wall? Then screw into those?
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Could maybe at ends .But nature the system means has to be one other bracket, in the middle !

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Old 03 February 2017, 09:16 PM   #11
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Surprising how heavy curtains can be.
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How about something like basin wall fixings but with a nut either side of the bracket so it won't pull it through the plasterboard?
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Old 04 February 2017, 06:00 AM   #13
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Iv put those in for a basin, I don't think the flat part for wrench is 4" in.

I think only way here is indeed find studs ( there has to be at least 3 across 4 m ?!) And fix wooden board to them, and then curtain pole to the board

Annoying though cos this would mean an inch more light into the room

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Iv put those in for a basin, I don't think the flat part for wrench is 4" in.

I think only way here is indeed find studs ( there has to be at least 3 across 4 m ?!) And fix wooden board to them, and then curtain pole to the board

Annoying though cos this would mean an inch more light into the room
You can't get them with a star end to drive them in that way instead. To find the studs I've used the Bosch cable and stud finder which is very acurate.
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Over a 12' span, there ought to be battens INSIDE the wall at a maximum of 600 mm centres. Even above the window.
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Old 04 February 2017, 12:37 PM   #17
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you really would have thought so wouldn't you !

I think ill need stud finder though
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Is it plaster board ingos ? No facing around window ? Is it a kit house, timber frame cavity then blockwork outside ?

Actually if it was a kit house you would have a timber lintel above the window .unless you have high ceilings





There should be timber of some kind at the corner of the wall and soffit of the window.regardless if its a kit house or brick with timber strapping.although it may be to near the corner to be any use.

You could open up the wall and put extra timber dwangs (nogging if you are english) in.

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70's terrace I believe
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My guess is that its 4x2 framing then cavity then brick/block.this would explain the 4inch void .

You should get a solid fixing at around 30mm up from the corner of the window. Id use a thin nail to hammer in to check first.

Or dependant on ceiling hight .you might get a fixing into a timber lintel at about 8inch below ceiling hight.

Im not sure on 70's construction methods thpugh

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Can you not make an MDF plinth then paint it white or what ever colour and then glue and screw it to the plasterboard then its an easy fix to screw the rail straight in to the MDF
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That would be the norm or meranti or pine etc. I dont think he wants that though
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Old 05 February 2017, 10:19 AM   #23
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If needs be I'll have to , Being as can only have 3 brackets , and there's nothing behind central one,
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Old 05 February 2017, 12:38 PM   #24
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Do those stud finders actually work ?

( seems be big conflict of opinion )

I'm not spending 80 quid on one if a ten quid magnet will do what I want
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This is the 1 I use at work and it's been very accurate for my uses (plumbing). Is there anywhere local to you that you could hire maybe?
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Hire ?

um never thought about it
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Ive never met a joiner that uses a stud finder. We usually use our knuckles . Do me a favour and take a picture of your window and i'll take my best educated guess as to where you might get a fixing .

Normally id be working in an area that was going to be decorated afterwards and joiners would keep banging a nail in until the find the stud or dwang etc .

You are stuck with needing a fixing in the centre of the window so the only place you need to check is vertically in the centre . You can only go so high and so low for your curtain rail so checking that small area wont cause much damage . If you find nothing and decide to put a timber curtain plate up it will cover any damage . You can also use your knuckle to get a better idea where studs could be for fixing your timber plate . When you find one measure 400mm or 600mm to the side and you should hit the next one .
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ill keep tapping with pin hammer !

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Used magnet to attempt find studs

drilled 2" into something solid with wood bit and wood screws , which are certainly biting

this would have to be wood wouldn't it???, I just couldn't see wood on the bit as was withdrawing it...Don't want to pull off load bloody concxrete /plaster if someones careless with the curtain pulling !

after this I give up - spent chunk time with the magnet !

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Sounds like you are into a stud, should be OK.
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