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Old 10 January 2014, 12:10 AM
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To go through the floorboards?
Old 10 January 2014, 12:21 AM
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Use powerlines.
Old 10 January 2014, 12:53 AM
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Use wireless.
Old 10 January 2014, 12:57 AM
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Above is most convenient way to do this or just stick a small PC under the tv and go via small gigabit switch (fanless ofc).

Also checkout UbiQuiti UniFi Pro depending on what your wireless device(s) support protocol / standard wise

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Old 10 January 2014, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Use powerlines.
how many houses are there where upstairs would be on same ring as downstairs?
Old 10 January 2014, 06:32 AM
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I use these TP-Link power lines:
http://uk.tp-link.com/products/detai...L-WPA4220T+KIT

Desktop media server is 2 floors up (on a separate ring), TV and HDD recorder on the ground floor. I can stream media from the desktop to the downstairs tv (and mobile devices) via DLNA. I can also backup from my HDD recorder to my media server using media monkey and handbrake.
Old 10 January 2014, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by riiidaa
how many houses are there where upstairs would be on same ring as downstairs?
I use powerlines on different rings.
Old 10 January 2014, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by paulr
To go through the floorboards?
Obviously having a hardwired connection in CAT5E/6 cable cannot be beaten but if it involves messing up the decor then powerline adapters are pretty good. Personally not found Wi-Fi to be reliable enough for streaming of video, I have what is supposedly one of the best routers around (ASUS Dark Knight) but it still drops out. The 2.4GHz band is just too busy where I live, the reason for buying the ASUS router is it also does 5GHz and supposedly so does my TV but that's not reliable either. Some Googling suggests that the Panasonic Wi-Fi adapter has issues with 5GHz

Another option, depending on where stuff is, is to run the cable down the outside wall of your house. The cables are waterproof up to the point you strip back the insulation to fit a socket and this would be indoors.
Old 10 January 2014, 09:25 AM
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Yes, pull two (or more) lines through, same effort if taped together, and gives you redundancy in case one gets snagged or bitten through etc

To do it properly use hard wired (cat5/6) connections anything else is a bodge

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Old 10 January 2014, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Miniman
I use powerlines on different rings.
This.

I do the same and don't have any issues.
Old 10 January 2014, 10:07 AM
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Powerlines are by far the easiest. I use a few Netgear Nano 500mps ones spread around the house and achieve pretty good speeds.
Old 10 January 2014, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Miniman
I use powerlines on different rings.

Yes that will work but the speed wont be as good as it will then go via your fuse board.

What are you planing on using this connection for ?
Old 10 January 2014, 10:34 AM
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The only downside I find on powerlines is ffd/rwd is not too responsive when streaming media. Playing an mp4 movie is fine, you just have to endure any ad breaks
Old 10 January 2014, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
The only downside I find on powerlines is ffd/rwd is not too responsive when streaming media. Playing an mp4 movie is fine, you just have to endure any ad breaks
Sorry, you must have probs elsewhere,


Ive just changed to 500mps tp links ..

I can stream HD3d from the NAS in the loft, to both the upstairs HDTV And to the 3D DVD & TV downstairs in the front room

TP do say that if you have surge filters in your system, than can affect the signal

Mart
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Expanding on the original question a bit, anyone out there recommend a system for distributing through the whole house?
Have an old farm house thats undergoing rennovation just now, and currently have a BT router in the living room, the wifi signal doesnt get very far cause of the thick walls and would like internt access in most of the rooms both downstairs and upstairs
Most of the floorboards are up so cat5/6 hard wiring would be easy to do just now, something I'd do myself.
Theres about 8 rooms I'd like to wire up.
So the BT router having only 4 ports wont do the job...
Will some sort of server based router do?
Im not really clued up on that side of things?
Any help would be appreciated!
Old 10 January 2014, 11:08 AM
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Use power lines. I have them connected from house to garage on separate rings then run a 80 metre cat5 cable to outbuilding. Even though I have slowish Internet in the house of 4mb, I can stream video in the outbuilding
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Originally Posted by mart360
Sorry, you must have probs elsewhere,


Ive just changed to 500mps tp links ..

I can stream HD3d from the NAS in the loft, to both the upstairs HDTV And to the 3D DVD & TV downstairs in the front room

TP do say that if you have surge filters in your system, than can affect the signal

Mart
Can't do anything about the surge protection, plus it's being routed through a breaker box into the old fuse board - but it streams tv quality which is good enough for me.
Old 10 January 2014, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Road Warrior
Expanding on the original question a bit, anyone out there recommend a system for distributing through the whole house?
Have an old farm house thats undergoing rennovation just now, and currently have a BT router in the living room, the wifi signal doesnt get very far cause of the thick walls and would like internt access in most of the rooms both downstairs and upstairs
Most of the floorboards are up so cat5/6 hard wiring would be easy to do just now, something I'd do myself.
Theres about 8 rooms I'd like to wire up.
So the BT router having only 4 ports wont do the job...
Will some sort of server based router do?
Im not really clued up on that side of things?
Any help would be appreciated!
This will do fine

http://www.ebuyer.com/411324-netgear...h-fs208-100uks
Old 10 January 2014, 11:38 AM
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Road Warrior, I'm a fellow Scottish farm building networker.

I have a BT Home Hub at the master socket, and its gigabit port is hooked up to a gigabit 5 port switch. From here four patch cables link to a 4 way ethernet socket on the wall and from there the ethernet cables go in various directions to the garage, workshop, dining room, lounge where there is a gigabit router with DHCP turned off plugged into an ethernet socket on the wall. They all share the same SSID, password and security, but on non overlapping channels, some are dual band. Result is excellent wired and wireless over 6000 sqft, although it does need five wireless zones to accomplish it.

There are three distribution boards with countless ring mains, but all on the same electric meter and phase. Powerline (500 claimed) did work but only to about a real 10 megabits per second file transfer speed. Now on a large file copy it is about 900 megabits per second. Overkill for our 6.5 megabits internet connection, but good for networking domestic and business requirements.

For going through a typical floorboard, wireless is usually fine. Stone walls of any substance, forget it.

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Old 10 January 2014, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wrx5343
Personally would and did go Gigabit which is only a few pounds more, but if just for present web use then 100 megabits will be fine, and if the wires are good you can always change the equipment later.
Old 10 January 2014, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by john banks
Personally would and did go Gigabit which is only a few pounds more, but if just for present web use then 100 megabits will be fine, and if the wires are good you can always change the equipment later.

I have this myself
http://www.dabs.com/products/netgear...itch-3F1V.html
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Thanks for you help guys, has now given me something to go on
Actually looks a bit easier than I had anticipated!

John Banks, yeah stone walls are a killer, and this house has been added to over the years so some previous external walls are now internal, so it soon slows down the signal!
Good idea having other routers placed about for wireless too!
Hadnt thought of that..

Wont be using powerlines, the wiring is dodgy enough as it is at the minute!! :P

Thanks again!
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ive got loads of ethernet run through floorboards making my place futureproof. Best way of sending data around the house. How good they are the powerlines I'd always prefer hardwired over using seperate to power ring

But that seems the best method for you unless lifting the floorboards yourself to feed cat5 .

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Originally Posted by wrx5343
Yes that will work but the speed wont be as good as it will then go via your fuse board.

What are you planing on using this connection for ?
It makes zero difference to mine, I can still max mine out.
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powerline plugs.
Old 10 January 2014, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chet123
ive got loads of ethernet run through floorboards making my place futureproof. Best way of sending data around the house. How good they are the powerlines I'd always prefer hardwired over using seperate to power ring

But that seems the best method for you unless lifting the floorboards yourself to feed cat5 .
Running Ethernet cables everywhere strikes me as archaic and messy, unless you do it properly i.e, in conduit or behind the plaster with proper sockets. I HATE seeing cowboy wiring jobs!
Old 10 January 2014, 03:25 PM
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Thanks for all the advice guys.
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And don't forget don't kink the wire two to three inch bends as int wire will cut through its own insulation if any less.
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