Xbox gone tits up...
17 April 2011, 03:34 PM
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Xbox gone **** up...
My original 360 (Premium with no hdmi port etc) has given up the ghost. It has 3 flashing lights and following the info on the web about pressing sync button and eject button 4 times to get the hidden error code I get 4144.
This appears to be:
0100 : 4144 Likely a cold solder join in GPU or Ram chips (see error 0102)
0102 : 4142 Error in the "Digital Backbone" (CPU/GPU/RAM), this is usually caused by a cold solder joint between the GPU and the mainboard.
Covered by MS 3 year warranty, DO NOT attempt to have this repaired if your console is still under this warranty period. If your console is still under your 1 warranty return it to the store where it was purchased, if it is under the 3 year warranty call MS to have it replaced or repaired.
So can this be fixed easily or is it time to bin it? (I can't solder for toffee by the way so not something I can DIY).
I've got another in the lounge, an arcade with hdmi so can still play xbox games so don't think i'll bother buying a new one just yet.
This appears to be:
0100 : 4144 Likely a cold solder join in GPU or Ram chips (see error 0102)
0102 : 4142 Error in the "Digital Backbone" (CPU/GPU/RAM), this is usually caused by a cold solder joint between the GPU and the mainboard.
Covered by MS 3 year warranty, DO NOT attempt to have this repaired if your console is still under this warranty period. If your console is still under your 1 warranty return it to the store where it was purchased, if it is under the 3 year warranty call MS to have it replaced or repaired.
So can this be fixed easily or is it time to bin it? (I can't solder for toffee by the way so not something I can DIY).
I've got another in the lounge, an arcade with hdmi so can still play xbox games so don't think i'll bother buying a new one just yet.
17 April 2011, 05:36 PM
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You can't actually solder it with a iron, you'd need a Reballing work station to heat up the solder and bond to it.
But instead of messing around just buy a new arcade model
But instead of messing around just buy a new arcade model
17 April 2011, 06:27 PM
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Like Ant says buy a pre owned Arcade model and get a 12 month warranty by then we will probably all be talking about next gen consoles anyway, Nintendo have officially announced theirs is in development
29 April 2011, 11:07 AM
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You will likely get £40 on ebay for your broken one, just put it down as NR and a 99p start price (7 days)
Last two i have sold on eBay have went for that amount, then put it twoards a new model
Worth more if the seals are intact, because people think they can fix them for £3 with a cheap kit (and sometimes it works for a good while)
Last two i have sold on eBay have went for that amount, then put it twoards a new model
Worth more if the seals are intact, because people think they can fix them for £3 with a cheap kit (and sometimes it works for a good while)
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29 April 2011, 11:14 AM
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Do the towel trick and go trade it in for a new one ,they are quite cheap these days ,and if the towel trick works when they turn in on in the shop they will think its good to go
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29 April 2011, 12:58 PM
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mate stick an x clamp kit in it, on ebay for under a fiver, easy to fit and if done right you will get another 12 months out of it. if you need any info on how to fit it or it doesnt fire up after putting the x clamp kit on dont panic drop me a pm i will guide you through it.
well of course it works try it if you ever have a broken xbox as i have done this to my xbox 360 
01 May 2011, 06:45 AM
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Reball is the only proper way to repair, may as well buy a new one. Anything else is temporary. If you still want to do a DIY job, I'd carefully reflow the board using a heat gun, replace the thermal paste on the CPU and GPU, do the X clamp mod and replace the foam pad thingies on the backs of the RAM chips.
01 May 2011, 07:58 AM
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Just dont power up with anything disconnected, or connect to live
thats what gets the banhammer running
...Mart
01 May 2011, 08:34 AM
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If you power the puppy up whilst x clamping, and have the wireless or ethernet connected, the system will report back to MS that the case is open... to MS open case is modded ....banhammer
Also if you get dvd drive connected the wrong way round and power up....
it gets reported back to MS....& Banhammer
One of the guys on my friends list, who i work with got a 30 day ban for opening his case to free off his sticking DVD drive .... He phoned to speak to them, and whilst they could see no firmware freakery had gone on, and they were satisfied all he had done was fix a sticking DVD tray they still banned him.... There stance is " only approved repairers, are authorised to open the case" lol
If you change the dvd for a replacement, and its not the same as the one tied to the console...Banhammer Change the size of the hard drive & get the drives firmware flash wrong .......Banhammer
You can do the X clamp mod yourself, just be aware that you get everything right before you go online
Mart
Also if you get dvd drive connected the wrong way round and power up....
it gets reported back to MS....& Banhammer
One of the guys on my friends list, who i work with got a 30 day ban for opening his case to free off his sticking DVD drive .... He phoned to speak to them, and whilst they could see no firmware freakery had gone on, and they were satisfied all he had done was fix a sticking DVD tray they still banned him.... There stance is " only approved repairers, are authorised to open the case" lol
If you change the dvd for a replacement, and its not the same as the one tied to the console...Banhammer Change the size of the hard drive & get the drives firmware flash wrong .......Banhammer
You can do the X clamp mod yourself, just be aware that you get everything right before you go online
Mart
03 May 2011, 08:08 AM
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i have been repairing games consoles for a living for over 3 years most of the above are just myths, you cant get banned for changing the hard drive or opening the case!!! the only way they can tell if the case has been opened is if you send it back for a repair and the warranty sticker is broken. if you change the drive 9 times out of 10 you use the board out of your old drive and put it into the new, thats if your changing like for like, if your changing for another type of drive ie ben q for a samsung the board wont fit and you must spoof the other drive in which means extracting the key from the old one and putting it in the new one otherwise the games will not play, yes doing this 18 months ago meant microsoft could find out you had done this by reading the firmware from the drive but if you use whats called LT+ firmware when microsoft reads the drive on an update it sends the information of the original stock drive back job done. So with this new software its now possible to play back up games and not get banned all you have to do is make sure all your games are stealth patched as that is the only way to be detected now. I have been playing online 7 days a week for 18 months with copy games and not had a bit of problem same goes for my son and most of my customers. As above there are no case sensors on the old or new xbox to tell them the case is open or been opened!!
03 May 2011, 11:31 AM
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They said this about ixtreme 1.4 , 1.5, 1.6, 1.61.
Like it or not they'll detect it eventually and ban them.
Best way is just have one dodgy box and one legit box.
There's only a few games worth playing online anyway.
Like it or not they'll detect it eventually and ban them.
Best way is just have one dodgy box and one legit box.
There's only a few games worth playing online anyway.
03 May 2011, 11:32 AM
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i have been repairing games consoles for a living for over 3 years most of the above are just myths, you cant get banned for changing the hard drive or opening the case!!! the only way they can tell if the case has been opened is if you send it back for a repair and the warranty sticker is broken. if you change the drive 9 times out of 10 you use the board out of your old drive and put it into the new, thats if your changing like for like, if your changing for another type of drive ie ben q for a samsung the board wont fit and you must spoof the other drive in which means extracting the key from the old one and putting it in the new one otherwise the games will not play, yes doing this 18 months ago meant microsoft could find out you had done this by reading the firmware from the drive but if you use whats called LT+ firmware when microsoft reads the drive on an update it sends the information of the original stock drive back job done. So with this new software its now possible to play back up games and not get banned all you have to do is make sure all your games are stealth patched as that is the only way to be detected now. I have been playing online 7 days a week for 18 months with copy games and not had a bit of problem same goes for my son and most of my customers. As above there are no case sensors on the old or new xbox to tell them the case is open or been opened!!
cheers
03 May 2011, 01:12 PM
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04 May 2011, 09:51 AM
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04 May 2011, 11:32 AM
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05 May 2011, 08:34 PM
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Have you tried the cotton buds trick?
Mine played up last week with the 3 rings and after seeing the cotton bud trick on youtube i thought i'd try it - it worked
take 2 cotton buds, remove cotton from end of each, stick buds into the fans on the back of the xbox to stop the fans from spinning, switch on xbox, wait 3-4 mins until 2 rings are still showing, switch off xbox until it's cooled down, switch on 5 mins later and it should be working
not sure how long this fix lasts but it's still working for mine
search youtube xbox cotton buds
Mine played up last week with the 3 rings and after seeing the cotton bud trick on youtube i thought i'd try it - it worked
take 2 cotton buds, remove cotton from end of each, stick buds into the fans on the back of the xbox to stop the fans from spinning, switch on xbox, wait 3-4 mins until 2 rings are still showing, switch off xbox until it's cooled down, switch on 5 mins later and it should be working
not sure how long this fix lasts but it's still working for mine
search youtube xbox cotton buds
05 May 2011, 10:21 PM
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