Who's been banned from Xbox live?
12 November 2009, 09:04 AM
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I think a hell of a lot to be honest, the forums have been full of people.
They have also been quite cunning withh the bans now.
A banned console will no longer let you install stuff to the hard drive.
If you continue to use the banned box to play games offline for a while, and then in the future buy a new box and try to use your old hard drive with it, your profile becomes corrupt and you lose all your gamerscore
So its either buy a new box now and swap stuff over, or use the banned box offline for ever and keep your gamerscore on that one.
But using the banned box, and amassing another 10k in gamerscore, then deciding you want a new machine, will make your profile corrupt, cunning!
They have also been quite cunning withh the bans now.
A banned console will no longer let you install stuff to the hard drive.
If you continue to use the banned box to play games offline for a while, and then in the future buy a new box and try to use your old hard drive with it, your profile becomes corrupt and you lose all your gamerscore
So its either buy a new box now and swap stuff over, or use the banned box offline for ever and keep your gamerscore on that one.
But using the banned box, and amassing another 10k in gamerscore, then deciding you want a new machine, will make your profile corrupt, cunning!
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12 November 2009, 09:23 AM
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Dont think so, not according to the hacking forums i look at now and again, some of the older boxes that run older code could still be flashed back, but the newer ones will all have been updated anyway, MS is cunning, and includes newer updates on some games anyway, so the chances are that the majority of the consoles out in the wild are all patched up to recent spec.
12 November 2009, 01:24 PM
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I only modified my original xbox so I could run XBMC and install, legally purchased I might add, games to the hard drive, simply to speed things up a little. I did not go online with the console booting from the modchip, as I didn't want to get banned, even though I wasn't going to be playing pirated games, or cheating online.
I will admit to, in single player mode on Halo 2 turning on a few cheats for a laugh. This was actually after completing the game on easy first though. I thought I'd stick it on Legendary and have a few cheats and play through, as said, for a laugh. I didn't see a problem doing this as it was just against the machine
As far as I am aware, XBMC doesn't run on the 360, primarily as I don't think there is a way to get it on there, so I wouldn't have a real reason to mod a 360. There could well be a few, probably very few, reasons for chipping a 360 bar playing pirated games, but I cannot think of any off the top of my head.
I will admit to, in single player mode on Halo 2 turning on a few cheats for a laugh. This was actually after completing the game on easy first though. I thought I'd stick it on Legendary and have a few cheats and play through, as said, for a laugh. I didn't see a problem doing this as it was just against the machine
As far as I am aware, XBMC doesn't run on the 360, primarily as I don't think there is a way to get it on there, so I wouldn't have a real reason to mod a 360. There could well be a few, probably very few, reasons for chipping a 360 bar playing pirated games, but I cannot think of any off the top of my head.
12 November 2009, 01:57 PM
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As far as I am aware, XBMC doesn't run on the 360, primarily as I don't think there is a way to get it on there, so I wouldn't have a real reason to mod a 360. There could well be a few, probably very few, reasons for chipping a 360 bar playing pirated games, but I cannot think of any off the top of my head.
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12 November 2009, 01:58 PM
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I only modified my original xbox so I could run XBMC and install, legally purchased I might add, games to the hard drive, simply to speed things up a little. I did not go online with the console booting from the modchip, as I didn't want to get banned, even though I wasn't going to be playing pirated games, or cheating online.
I will admit to, in single player mode on Halo 2 turning on a few cheats for a laugh. This was actually after completing the game on easy first though. I thought I'd stick it on Legendary and have a few cheats and play through, as said, for a laugh. I didn't see a problem doing this as it was just against the machine
As far as I am aware, XBMC doesn't run on the 360, primarily as I don't think there is a way to get it on there, so I wouldn't have a real reason to mod a 360. There could well be a few, probably very few, reasons for chipping a 360 bar playing pirated games, but I cannot think of any off the top of my head.
I will admit to, in single player mode on Halo 2 turning on a few cheats for a laugh. This was actually after completing the game on easy first though. I thought I'd stick it on Legendary and have a few cheats and play through, as said, for a laugh. I didn't see a problem doing this as it was just against the machine
As far as I am aware, XBMC doesn't run on the 360, primarily as I don't think there is a way to get it on there, so I wouldn't have a real reason to mod a 360. There could well be a few, probably very few, reasons for chipping a 360 bar playing pirated games, but I cannot think of any off the top of my head.
They did wipe my stats on rainbow six though after using the molotov cocktail power save.
12 November 2009, 02:39 PM
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I simply used it as it was akin to having a PC laying around doing nothing. Turn it into something useful.
12 November 2009, 09:14 PM
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They have been stealthing them for a while mate, did not seam to make any difference as a lot of the current banned chaps had the most up to date stuff in use..
Even the top chap who creates the stealthy stuff does not have a clue how they are doing it, and he thinks they are simply detecting bad rips/copys
12 November 2009, 10:20 PM
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MS probably put out a couple bad rips or copys of the most popular titles in order to be able to get those with modded 360's. Ban them... send out a message before Xmas to those buying. The fact the PS3 isn't cracked means they could do that.
12 November 2009, 11:08 PM
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They have been stealthing them for a while mate, did not seam to make any difference as a lot of the current banned chaps had the most up to date stuff in use..
Even the top chap who creates the stealthy stuff does not have a clue how they are doing it, and he thinks they are simply detecting bad rips/copys
Even the top chap who creates the stealthy stuff does not have a clue how they are doing it, and he thinks they are simply detecting bad rips/copys
He did have 3 new machines running the latest firmware and all 3 got banned with different scenarios with disc, copied disc , and no disc.
which to me says the firmware
12 November 2009, 11:31 PM
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Like mentioned, my original Xbox was chipped, big HDD full of copied games. But never been tempted to get the 360 done, originally for the cost of the console if anything, cause if anything happened you were screwed.
Suppose everyone just has to accept it was good while it lasted, Microsoft will be able to get hold of the firmware just like every other modder, and find ways to prevent it just like the hackers found ways around the original stuff.
Suppose everyone just has to accept it was good while it lasted, Microsoft will be able to get hold of the firmware just like every other modder, and find ways to prevent it just like the hackers found ways around the original stuff.
16 November 2009, 01:29 AM
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Makes me laugh, its like banging your head against a brick wall then wondering why you have a headache...
M$ have a tiny little bit more budget than the guys making the chips/mods and people love having thier consoles connected to the net so its just a matter of time before the ban hammer comes and gets you
M$ have a tiny little bit more budget than the guys making the chips/mods and people love having thier consoles connected to the net so its just a matter of time before the ban hammer comes and gets you
16 November 2009, 06:48 AM
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When a chap does a test with a new elite, flashes it, but never uses for anything apart from connecting to live! and still gets banned, you know that M$ can detect your mods!
16 November 2009, 07:43 PM
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I've not gone on-line yet as I know I'll be banned (flashed firmware). I don't play many games really - try the demo's out and play Trails HD on-line. Don't fancy losing the install to hard drive feature, so won't be logging on any time soon.
16 November 2009, 07:46 PM
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If you continue to use the banned box to play games offline for a while, and then in the future buy a new box and try to use your old hard drive with it, your profile becomes corrupt and you lose all your gamerscore
So its either buy a new box now and swap stuff over, or use the banned box offline for ever and keep your gamerscore on that one.
But using the banned box, and amassing another 10k in gamerscore, then deciding you want a new machine, will make your profile corrupt, cunning!
So its either buy a new box now and swap stuff over, or use the banned box offline for ever and keep your gamerscore on that one.
But using the banned box, and amassing another 10k in gamerscore, then deciding you want a new machine, will make your profile corrupt, cunning!
Worst case scenario i'll do what everyone else is doing, gutswap it as Asda then get a refund
16 November 2009, 10:14 PM
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Link ???
The only way of unbanning yourself, is if you have your CPU key, and not many people have that as the exploit to actualy read the cpu key, was patched up quite a while back.
So as far as i am aware, while technically you could unban your console in theory, in reality, nobody can as the loopholes were locked down a while back.
Or that's how it was all presented to me last friday at least
Saw a rather amusing windup video on youtube over the weeked that is supposed to show a console unbanning itself with a super duper program "scanning sectors" =
From XboxScene......
The only way of unbanning yourself, is if you have your CPU key, and not many people have that as the exploit to actualy read the cpu key, was patched up quite a while back.
So as far as i am aware, while technically you could unban your console in theory, in reality, nobody can as the loopholes were locked down a while back.
Or that's how it was all presented to me last friday at least
Saw a rather amusing windup video on youtube over the weeked that is supposed to show a console unbanning itself with a super duper program "scanning sectors" =
Unbanning Xbox 360 From Live - The Facts
>> I see lots of sites posting today about a way to unban Xbox 360 from LIVE often linking to a thread made on our forums here.
This method has been known for a long time (since the King Kong Exploit days) and does indeed 'work'. Basically you swap the Keyvault (or 'KV' in short, it stores stuff like console certificates, per-box private keys, DVD key, etc) inside the NAND with the KV from an unbanned console. While technically very different you could somewhat compare it to swapping eeprom data during the Xbox1 days.
However there's a (really) big 'IF' (besides the required tech knowledge) ... you need the (unique) CPU key of your banned console - without it you can't correctly write (or encrypt if you want) the new KV data in the NAND bin of your banned console.
Now you wonder how to get the CPU-key ... well by running XeLL of course!
To run XeLL u need to perform the JTAG hack (or the King Kong exploit, but that's even more outdated) ... and if you got banned the last few weeks it means you updated to the latest dashboard/kernel (else you can't get on LIVE).
And that's the problem... Microsoft patched the JTAG hack since kernel 849x (July 2009) ... so no way to boot up XeLL (= no realistic way for you to get the CPU-key atm) and thus no way to swap the KV data in your NAND image.
And then there's also added KV protection (hashing) on newer motherboards (Falcon+ ? and kernel 1888 won't boot on those), but if you can't even get your CPU-key it doesn't matter much to do deeper into this problem.
The only way it would work is if you retrieved the CPU-key of your old banned 360 before you updated to anything over 849x. If you did that you probably know about all of this and I'm not telling you anything new
Downgrading kernel is not an option either, older kernels won't boot as both kernel and CB fuses were burned during the various updates MS performed, and you can't bypass that without ... your CPU-key.
Hope that explains the situation a bit (tried to make it not 'too' technical)
On a side-note, it would probably be pretty easy for MS to detect KV-swaps (like HW-mismatches etc).
Side-note2: in case it wasn't obvious yet those "unban isos" are fake and iXtreme LT won't unban you (it will instead try to avoid new bans).
>> I see lots of sites posting today about a way to unban Xbox 360 from LIVE often linking to a thread made on our forums here.
This method has been known for a long time (since the King Kong Exploit days) and does indeed 'work'. Basically you swap the Keyvault (or 'KV' in short, it stores stuff like console certificates, per-box private keys, DVD key, etc) inside the NAND with the KV from an unbanned console. While technically very different you could somewhat compare it to swapping eeprom data during the Xbox1 days.
However there's a (really) big 'IF' (besides the required tech knowledge) ... you need the (unique) CPU key of your banned console - without it you can't correctly write (or encrypt if you want) the new KV data in the NAND bin of your banned console.
Now you wonder how to get the CPU-key ... well by running XeLL of course!
To run XeLL u need to perform the JTAG hack (or the King Kong exploit, but that's even more outdated) ... and if you got banned the last few weeks it means you updated to the latest dashboard/kernel (else you can't get on LIVE).
And that's the problem... Microsoft patched the JTAG hack since kernel 849x (July 2009) ... so no way to boot up XeLL (= no realistic way for you to get the CPU-key atm) and thus no way to swap the KV data in your NAND image.
And then there's also added KV protection (hashing) on newer motherboards (Falcon+ ? and kernel 1888 won't boot on those), but if you can't even get your CPU-key it doesn't matter much to do deeper into this problem.
The only way it would work is if you retrieved the CPU-key of your old banned 360 before you updated to anything over 849x. If you did that you probably know about all of this and I'm not telling you anything new
Downgrading kernel is not an option either, older kernels won't boot as both kernel and CB fuses were burned during the various updates MS performed, and you can't bypass that without ... your CPU-key.
Hope that explains the situation a bit (tried to make it not 'too' technical)
On a side-note, it would probably be pretty easy for MS to detect KV-swaps (like HW-mismatches etc).
Side-note2: in case it wasn't obvious yet those "unban isos" are fake and iXtreme LT won't unban you (it will instead try to avoid new bans).
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17 November 2009, 12:18 AM
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Ok ill bite........why do we think we're clever?.
As for cheap I've spent up to £200 for xbl content have you? I've bought 4 xbox's since they was release two premium and two elites.
Anyways when is SN gonna have cod night?
As for cheap I've spent up to £200 for xbl content have you? I've bought 4 xbox's since they was release two premium and two elites.
Anyways when is SN gonna have cod night?
why did you reply to him, you're only going to make him feel important ..
17 November 2009, 02:22 PM
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The unban firmware it don't exist the only way you could prevent a ban was backing up your nand before the summer 09 firmware.
As soon as you connect online after a few days you'l be banned.
The ixtreme firmware is suppsoed to be undectable but won't unban you. I have a unmodded xbox for my online play now.
But can't use it as I'm cheap and refuse to pay for games :d
As soon as you connect online after a few days you'l be banned.
The ixtreme firmware is suppsoed to be undectable but won't unban you. I have a unmodded xbox for my online play now.
But can't use it as I'm cheap and refuse to pay for games :d
