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Old May 19, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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I'm about to upgrade my old P3 and need some advice. On the processor front should I go for a 533 or 800 fsb. And I assume I will nedd a 533 or 800 motherboard to match. There seems to be loads of different memory available any thoughts on which type ?

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Old May 19, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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If you want a P4, then I'd go for a Pentium 4 'c' revision which is the 800Mhz FSB. The C revisions are available in 2.4, 2.6, 2.8 and 3.0Ghz.

Get an 875P board, add a pair of DDR400 (aka PC3200) RAM sticks (Corsair TwinX set if you can afford it).

As a quick example from Overclockers (other stores are available ) :

P4 'Northwood' 2.4CGHz (800FSB) with HT Technology - £131.50

Abit IC7 "Canterwood" - £101
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Abit IC7-G Max-2 Advance "Canterwood" - £144
or
Asus P4C800 Deluxe "Canterwood" - £137

Corsair 512MB DDR XMS3200 TwinX (2x256MB) - £112

All + VAT.

[Edited by ChrisB - 5/19/2003 3:02:57 PM]
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Old May 19, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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Id get the 533Mhz, whats point using the 800mhz?? really??

if your that botherd abou 200fsb just get a 2.4 and overclock that

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Old May 19, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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Erm, cos 800Mhz is quicker than 533Mhz?
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Old May 19, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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But is it?

Surly just mem bandwidth?

Any links to comparing the 533 and 800?
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Old May 19, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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All the usual suspects - Anand, TechReport, Tom's, HardOCP have pages on 533 vs 800...

Not to mention you can get HT on 2.4Ghz and upwards at 800Mhz. The 2.4Ghz C overclocks great by all accounts (see HardOCP - they got a 1Ghz FSB with stock air cooling).

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Old May 19, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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Scooby doo.

If you're thinking of buying a new graphics card, you can have my Radeon 9800 pro. 300 quid.
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Old May 19, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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Whats wrong with it neil??

Ive read about compatability issues
There difference is fk all

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Old May 20, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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Thanks for all the replies,

what do you think of :

Asus P4c800 Deluxe
Intel P4 2.8G (800 FSB)
Big Fan thingy
Corsair TwinX Memory 2*256 mb matched

All this for £560 inc vat

I already have a Geforce Ti500 so I think that can survive for now.

Comments please
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Old May 20, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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Dont think you can go wrong with the Asus or the Abit. There is also the MSI i875 Neo for around £145 IIRC. Id go for the Asus and MSI over the Abit after the reviews Ive seen.

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Old May 20, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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Si,

No compatability issues. It's a stop gap card for when my colour coded hercules card arrives. As seen on a another post,
http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...hreadid=210967
it's a stunningly capable card, just the wrong colour...

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Old May 20, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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Downside of the Asus is that it puts the Gigabit NIC on the PCI bus and doesn't use the new high bandwidth link Intel have provided in the 875PE. Damned if I can remember the name of it though.

Mind, I doubt many people have Gigabit at home yet so it's hardly a big black mark
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Old May 20, 2003 | 01:36 PM
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if you read the bench test, youll find Asus is superior of all Canterwood chipsets, the Abit is apparently ****e!!

Glad i bought it now

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Old May 20, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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Chris - CSA GBit LAN is what your referring to I think!
It also uses an external 3rd party (Promise) RAID Controller instead of using the integrated Intel one.

Both at an attempt to save (what seems minimal) cost. The MSI 875 board has both and also includes pretty much all cabling (inc 4 serial ATA cables and power adapters).

If I was buying now Id choose the MSI board personally.

Simon.
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