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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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Default Max boost on standard sti pistons with td05-20g ?

I've got a version 4 type-r with a td05-20g that has apparently been mapped by andy forest to a "safe" 340bhp approx at 1.2 bar.

I've fitted an avc-r to it now and will be getting it mapped and was wondering if 1.2 bar is too conservative or can I eek some more out of it.

Car has unknown pistons, injectors and clutch so take it as they're standard, power fc, walbro, standard tmic, fpr, equal length headers & full decat 3" exhaust

anybody else running similar setups?

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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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You should be ok for some more, but watch out for gearbox.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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I've never launched it / full bore off the mark and I'm generally mechanically sympathetic to my cars so hopefully gearbox won't give up the ghost
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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What's the standard clutch good for?
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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c.350 lb ft - depending on age/wear/abuse thus far.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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The standard rods wont take more than 1.65 bar, the pistons are pretty good and will handle this.

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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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So 1.4 - 1.5 is do-able then guys?
Thanks for the replies
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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What about the tmic? will that sort of boost be too much?
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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Headgaskets? Head-bolts?
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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Dunno really, so I'll say they're standard.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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I think I would be changing the TMIC if your going to be running more boost.
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To an aftermarket tmic or a sti 8 unit?
Don't really wanna go fmic as it's quite laggy as it is
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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Your better off with a smaller turbo and a fmic, power wise, I would not go much further than your 340bhp, these cars have been known to let go at less power than this, the rods are the weakest point in the engine and yours are the same as the ones in every turbocharged 2ltr impreza of that year.
The 20g is a horrid turbo for your car, go for drivability, upgrade the brakes, suspension etc and have a nicer car to drive

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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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Sadly the days of spunking all my cash on cars has all but gone, so new turbo and fmic are out of the question, prob just stick with what I got then, boooooo
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Swapping the 20g for an 18g and a newage tmic would be the way I would go.
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I ran a 20g on a 2.0 STI engine for 20k @ 1.6 bar (circa 380bhp), sold car to Paul and Liz @ Zen the 20g was replaced later with a VF34 (made circa 360bhp on that) iirc and car now lives with another member on here and as far as I know is still going strong.

Story goes, treat them with respect and service regularly and they will last fine.
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
I ran a 20g on a 2.0 STI engine for 20k @ 1.6 bar (circa 380bhp), sold car to Paul and Liz @ Zen...
Was that Liz's black one? She still got that - or just her Fiat now?
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Was that Liz's black one? She still got that - or just her Fiat now?
That's the one, was sold to a family member
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
I ran a 20g on a 2.0 STI engine for 20k @ 1.6 bar (circa 380bhp), sold car to Paul and Liz @ Zen the 20g was replaced later with a VF34 (made circa 360bhp on that) iirc and car now lives with another member on here and as far as I know is still going strong.

Story goes, treat them with respect and service regularly and they will last fine.
Hmmmm.....
was u running standard tmic, injectors, clutch, head gasket etc?
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Nope, 550 cc injectors, AP clutch, front mount. Head gaskets were standard, there are no issues running standard gaskets at that level.

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What sort of mileage did the 2.0l STi engine have?
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Total of 30k on a standard rebuild when I sold it.

And whilst I am at it my wagon I recently sold had a 60k STI engine when I got it, I was running this @ 1.5bar with a MD304 then a RCM 400 ! Engine happily put 18k on at that level and had never been opened !

Too many scare stories on here and I don't usually bother replying but I have actual experience and don't just regurgitate hearsay. (That is no dig at any individual, just fact)

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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
Total of 30k on a standard rebuild when I sold it.

And whilst I am at it my wagon I recently sold had a 60k STI engine when I got it, I was running this @ 1.5bar with a MD304 then a RCM 400 ! Engine happily put 18k on at that level and had never been opened !

Too many scare stories on here and I don't usually bother replying but I have actual experience and don't just regurgitate hearsay. (That is no dig at any individual, just fact)

Clive
Ye true stories mate. There is too much politics!!! How far did you rev on the standard 2.0l running those setups?
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Aladdin
Ye true stories mate. There is too much politics!!! How far did you rev on the standard 2.0l running those setups?
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Here is the stunning black STI btw https://www.scoobynet.com/album.php?albumid=141
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Nice stuff.
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
...Here is the stunning black STI btw https://www.scoobynet.com/album.php?albumid=141
Yes, had the privilege of a passenger ride in that when I was picked up from Wellingborough station, for when collecting my previous WRX after its rebuild.

That black car flew.

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Thanks for all the info guys
what's the general opinion on what my setup (see 1st post) is capable of boost wise?
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Originally Posted by stiggy wiggy
Thanks for all the info guys
what's the general opinion on what my setup (see 1st post) is capable of boost wise?
As Banny mentioned 1.65b seems the safest limit.
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