Need advice on AST setup
Car is MY06 STI with Whiteline front and rear arbs and Whiteline ALK. I received this ofer from AST dealer in Italy:
"we have in stock a Sportline II kit for your Impreza and we can
offer it to you at 1800,00€ VAT included.
springs rate 75kgs
front/50kgs back."
What are you think about this spring rate setup for my car? Thanks
"we have in stock a Sportline II kit for your Impreza and we can
offer it to you at 1800,00€ VAT included.
springs rate 75kgs
front/50kgs back."
What are you think about this spring rate setup for my car? Thanks
IMHO: Too hard.
For road/track 50/40 Fr/Rr or 60/50.
60/50:
DropShots.com
50/40
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Suspension AST 3 ways, roll bars the same, both in the dry.
For road/track 50/40 Fr/Rr or 60/50.
60/50:
DropShots.com
50/40
DropShots.com
Suspension AST 3 ways, roll bars the same, both in the dry.
Ohhh 75/50! Ow!
I bought my 2 way adjustable ASTs with 60/50 fr / r springs way too hard! ( wanna buy some 60 kg/cm springs ? )
Now it is 50/40 fr/r and still too hard over speed ramps and potholes, even uneven roads!
I find the dampers don't get chance to work as the springs do not allow enough travel, even though dampers are set at 6 clicks front, 4 clicks rear.
Local expert supplier / garager / tuner - Powerstation reccommends road use 40/30 fr/rear!
Think I will try the 40/30 springs, and slightly stiffer damper setings soon.
Neil
I bought my 2 way adjustable ASTs with 60/50 fr / r springs way too hard! ( wanna buy some 60 kg/cm springs ? )
Now it is 50/40 fr/r and still too hard over speed ramps and potholes, even uneven roads!
I find the dampers don't get chance to work as the springs do not allow enough travel, even though dampers are set at 6 clicks front, 4 clicks rear.
Local expert supplier / garager / tuner - Powerstation reccommends road use 40/30 fr/rear!
Think I will try the 40/30 springs, and slightly stiffer damper setings soon.
Neil
About that Graham, but that's what Curtis told me when selling me the 40 springs!
Don't know if there are 45/35's !
What clicks on your bump/rebound are you running, if your 3 way's relate to 2 ways? I am on 2 or 3 on rear, 5 or 6 on front as the springs don't seem to allow the dampers to actually move much! Harsh over speed bumps especially as coming off the hump!
Sorry - partial thread hi-jack!
Don't know if there are 45/35's !
What clicks on your bump/rebound are you running, if your 3 way's relate to 2 ways? I am on 2 or 3 on rear, 5 or 6 on front as the springs don't seem to allow the dampers to actually move much! Harsh over speed bumps especially as coming off the hump!
Sorry - partial thread hi-jack!
On my one-ways:
50/40 = 7 / 6 clicks from soft (Fr Rr)
60/50 = 9 or 10 / 7 or 8 from soft.
Those worked a treat on my car, hillclimb or road.
3 ways are FAR FAR more complicated to get right!
I have always tried to get close to an old rule that the rear rates should be 80% of the fronts. (info from GGRacing, Whiteline)
50/40 = 7 / 6 clicks from soft (Fr Rr)
60/50 = 9 or 10 / 7 or 8 from soft.
Those worked a treat on my car, hillclimb or road.
3 ways are FAR FAR more complicated to get right!
I have always tried to get close to an old rule that the rear rates should be 80% of the fronts. (info from GGRacing, Whiteline)
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If your driving roads are rough use a softer rate, 50/40.
The New age cars are a touch heavier than a classic so with work these rates a bit harder.
If your roads are smooth then you can afford to runa bit harder, 60/50
The little trick here is to buy a pair of 40's and 50's and 60's and you can tune everything. The springs are not that expensive.(at least not in the UK)
The New age cars are a touch heavier than a classic so with work these rates a bit harder.
If your roads are smooth then you can afford to runa bit harder, 60/50
The little trick here is to buy a pair of 40's and 50's and 60's and you can tune everything. The springs are not that expensive.(at least not in the UK)
60/50's are way too hard for UK roads in my opinion...... even on a newage, on track though it is brilliant. This is what is currently set-up on the Spec C, albeit on the 3way adjustable ones. Mine is being changed and revalved back to the Type25 road car settings. When I test drove that it was sublime on the road and that is were my car will be used more and more as time goes on.
It's horses for courses, but I have had 60/50's for two years now and the time has come for a change to enable me to get the best out of the car. This has become more evident on the road with the amount of power I am now running.
It's horses for courses, but I have had 60/50's for two years now and the time has come for a change to enable me to get the best out of the car. This has become more evident on the road with the amount of power I am now running.
I too have tried the 60/50 route, and the 50/40 is soooo much better.
Way back, I was told by several places with experience (ie Whiteline Australia) that the rear spring rate for a Classic should be 80% of the rear, hence 50/40.
Way back, I was told by several places with experience (ie Whiteline Australia) that the rear spring rate for a Classic should be 80% of the rear, hence 50/40.
I'm running a newage on AST coilovers with 50/40 springs. In these parts of Cumbria, the roads are appalling, so even using very gentle settings on the dampers, the car was still a bit skittish. I spoke to Curtis and he revalved the front shocks to make the ride more compliant. The result was stunning - the car is now a dream to drive even at on the roughest most potholed road at 100 leptons/hr. This is how the AST shocks should come valved from the factory in IMO
Interesting!
Curtis re-valved my One Ways years ago for 50/40 and the car was great.
Without doing a dis-service to the mega 3 ways, good one ways are really good for all conditions, though many will dissagree (and ignore costs too).
Very subjective issue.
Curtis re-valved my One Ways years ago for 50/40 and the car was great.
Without doing a dis-service to the mega 3 ways, good one ways are really good for all conditions, though many will dissagree (and ignore costs too).
Very subjective issue.
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