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Old May 23, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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What's a good one???

ive just bought a "theoban" slr with a Deben Hawke scope....

ive been told that the gun is good for 30lbsft at the muzzle is this a lot??

it'll send a pellet through a coke can filled with sand!!!!!!!!!!!

Is the one I bought a good one or not?

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Old May 23, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkthescoobslayer
ive been told that the gun is good for 30lbsft at the muzzle is this a lot??
About 5 yrs if you don't have an FAC
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Old May 23, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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what's an FAC???????

please don't say Fire Arms Certificate or i'll cack myself
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Old May 23, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkthescoobslayer
ive been told that the gun is good for 30lbsft at the muzzle is this a lot??
Not a lot in the grand scheme of things.... but considering the legal limit for an air rifle is 12ft lbs 30 would make yours a section one firearm!

Theoben do make section one air rifles... but unless yours has had illicit "tweaks" it shouldn't be one!
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Old May 23, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Not a lot in the grand scheme of things.... but considering the legal limit for an air rifle is 12ft lbs 30 would make yours a section one firearm!

Theoben do make section one air rifles... but unless yours has had illicit "tweaks" it shouldn't be one!
hmmm strange thing is I bought it from a gun shop aswell!
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Old May 23, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Fire Arms Certificate
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Old May 23, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Grr, just do what I did ..

Buy a 2nd hand gunpower stealth, buy a 19 inch theoben barrel (can be expensive)
Get a hammer machined in heavy brass and open the valves 'top hat' fully.

First time I shot a pidgeon with it, the bird just exploded into a cloud of feathers.
Tad over the legal to say the least.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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Hello

As above, anything above 12ft IS a class one firearm. Not wishing to be negative about the police, but you are an easy target to up their statistics i.e. they have caught a potential criminal with a firearm (the fact it is an airgun is irrelevant).

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the one to have is the weirauch HW90, theoben internals, get yerself a pump

watch the triggers on theoben break barrells, very dicky, I bananna'ed the barrell on a scirroco years ago by over "adjustment". I was just about to put a pellet it and it went off - with the barrel down
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the one to have is the weirauch HW90, theoben internals, get yerself a pump

watch the triggers on theoben break barrells, very dicky, I bananna'ed the barrell on a scirroco years ago by over "adjustment". I was just about to put a pellet it and it went off - with the barrel down
this one isn't a break barrell it has the pump arm underneath that you pull down to load it and has a 7 shot cartridge in the top
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This takes me back; had a HW80K ages ago - that was break barrell. Had it somewhat tuned, which was great but it was noisy as hell. Had a silencer, but that just looked cool more than anything...
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That and the fact an air rifle at 30ftlbs will kill at long range!!!

It becomes lethal very soon after 12ftlbs and range and accuracy increase so it can easily become more accurate over 100m than an MP5.

If it is running at 30ftlbs mate you have a decision to make, either get it sorted or risk getting arrested for firearms offences which can lead to a mandatory 5 years, whatever the mitigating circumstances!!!
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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Theoben 'Rapid' rifles can be made to deliver 30lbs (usually in .25" cal.) but they are only manufactured to order for FAC customers. If you tweak it then it may make 18lbs, but then; so will my old BSA Super Meteor with a drop of 3in1 oil...

Under no circumstances will a 30lb .22"/.25" air rifle be as effective as a 9mm carbine firing from a closed bolt, and the accuracy is marginal. As a comparison; the muzzle energy is a fraction of that produced by a .22LR rimfire rifle.

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i have one with the word paratrooper on it don't know tech spec anyone heard of these?
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sounds like an slr98

if so nice gun but get it legal-its not worth the risk
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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by petey
i have one with the word paratrooper on it don't know tech spec anyone heard of these?
asi paratrooper? is it a multishot thing from the 80's
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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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is the slr98 a weirrauch theoben combo like the HW90?

if so...
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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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no its a theoben full build
probabally worth about 500 notes secondhand
hw90s are fun(when not eating triggers) but not a patch on one of these
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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by hawkthescoobslayer
hmmm strange thing is I bought it from a gun shop aswell!
should be safe then-get them to check and adjust the power-if they dont do it for free then ask them what the penalties are for selling a sec1 firearm to a non fac holder
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Originally Posted by richieh
should be safe then-get them to check and adjust the power-if they dont do it for free then ask them what the penalties are for selling a sec1 firearm to a non fac holder
richie
cheers richie I feel a "little" bit better now, thing is I only wanted the thing for vermin, rats, rabbits etc etc.

http://airgunbuyer.com/ecommerce/thu...enslr98kit.jpg

yep that's the one identical to mine.

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PS ONE HELL OF A GUN THOUGH................... Shooting cans for target practice has never been som much fun.
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That and the fact an air rifle at 30ftlbs will kill at long range!!!

It becomes lethal very soon after 12ftlbs and range and accuracy increase so it can easily become more accurate over 100m than an MP5.

If it is running at 30ftlbs mate you have a decision to make, either get it sorted or risk getting arrested for firearms offences which can lead to a mandatory 5 years, whatever the mitigating circumstances!!!
Thanks for the advice Chris & Richieh will take it back to the shop and ask the question, I'm hoping when he said "it's good for 30lbsft at the muzzle" he meant, you can tweak it to that??

However are you saying that at 30lbsft an air rifle can shoot 100m (300+feet)!!! I am amazed at that.

Paul

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pegs or extra strong mints are more fun than cans
really nice gun-if it cost you less than 500 its a bargain
nice cars and guns
wish i'd listened harder in school now lol
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Originally Posted by richieh
pegs or extra strong mints are more fun than cans
really nice gun-if it cost you less than 500 its a bargain
nice cars and guns
wish i'd listened harder in school now lol
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£395 including the scope 3-9 x 40

Only thing is I can't get the bloody thing sighted in.....
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have a look round here http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/
lots of good info and stuff there
they'll explain how to do it better than i can
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thanks for the help richie will have alook a that site.

Paul


ps times like this that Scoobynet really ROCKS!!!
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pegs or extra strong mints are more fun than cans
...and slugs stuck to a vertical plank of wood are better still
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dont worry mate the anti's will be along in a minute-along with ajm i suspect
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...and slugs stuck to a vertical plank of wood are better still
moving targets eh-bit like running boar only not as nippy
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It's the way they explode
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