Notices
General Technical
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Gf8 v4 wrx ej20 heads ON a ej205 block stock ecu

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 21, 2019 | 05:47 AM
  #1  
Gf8wrxV4ej20g's Avatar
Gf8wrxV4ej20g
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default Gf8 v4 wrx ej20 heads ON a ej205 block stock ecu

Hi everyone i have a 1998 subaru Australian Wrx Gf8.....it has everything from factory stock beshides 3inch Tbe, vf22, fmic, and ecu is standard but soon will be fully tunable by installing a chipset and rom to turn it into a live standalone ecu......

The ej20 block Bottom end craprd it self long story short so i thought about installing a 2002 wrx ej205 for cheap.....i found one cheap for $300 aus, and now thininkg to myself my 1998 ecu parameters might be a bit diffrent fireing order compared to a ej205 block because of crank angle sensor might be off compared to my phase 1 ej20k block being suited to the factory harness and sensors?

Also notice somthing scarry the pistions come out complety FLAT to the top of the deck...my old block only had a ej20 wrx 75mm stroke and stoped a fair bit before the decking of the block.... will this mess with my timing and Valves hiting the pistons????

In all that said.....Block will bolt up perfectly with the ej205 oem gaskets.... i will use a ej205 harmonic balance Not my 1998 ej20k factory harmonic..... i want to play it safe i can run everything from Oil pump to cooling and block matting....so the rest im a little puzzled.

Please give us your advice on what u known i might be missing
Reply
Old Nov 21, 2019 | 05:55 AM
  #2  
Gf8wrxV4ej20g's Avatar
Gf8wrxV4ej20g
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default

Here is a video of what I'm trying to explain and do

Reply
Old Nov 26, 2019 | 09:13 PM
  #3  
merlin24's Avatar
merlin24
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,032
Likes: 2
From: RM Performance
Default

A couple of things on your video :
Crank angle sensors are the same so no need to rewire anything.
The knock sensor is the one at the rear top right of the engine and the one at the front is the oil pressure sender unit.
Don't recognise the pistons in your EJ205 engine - they normally have a bowl on the crown whereas yours seem to be a flat crown with the valve pockets - got a clearer picture of
them at TDC ?

Mick
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2019 | 06:05 AM
  #4  
Gf8wrxV4ej20g's Avatar
Gf8wrxV4ej20g
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default


Reply
Old Dec 23, 2019 | 06:12 AM
  #5  
Gf8wrxV4ej20g's Avatar
Gf8wrxV4ej20g
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default

Originally Posted by merlin24
A couple of things on your video :
Crank angle sensors are the same so no need to rewire anything.
The knock sensor is the one at the rear top right of the engine and the one at the front is the oil pressure sender unit.
Don't recognise the pistons in your EJ205 engine - they normally have a bowl on the crown whereas yours seem to be a flat crown with the valve pockets - got a clearer picture of
them at TDC ?

Mick
thanks mick for the reply...how do u know the crank angle sensors are the same did u do a similar conversion too ?
i hope the pic helps to show the pistons a bit better...

I Guess my real question to eveyone is should i start on swapping out the old ej20g with the newer 2004 ej205 ?
OR will i hit some Hiccups along the way they will stop me to continue and finish the short block over ?
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2019 | 06:23 PM
  #6  
stockcar's Avatar
stockcar
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 6,840
Likes: 427
From: north east
Default

The crank PULLEY is different between the years you mention rather than the sensor itself.......you simply use the old one to marry up with your ECU
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2020 | 06:01 AM
  #7  
Gf8wrxV4ej20g's Avatar
Gf8wrxV4ej20g
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default

About to start on the project next week.....and I'm really really worried it wont work because on multiple forums no one has said yes u can do it it works......eveyone has a guess at my questions...

so has anyone acutely done what I'm about to do ? V6ej205 block with v4ej20 heads ?
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2020 | 11:50 AM
  #8  
1509joe's Avatar
1509joe
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,487
Likes: 318
From: Not sure
Default

Yes you can do ii
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2020 | 10:08 PM
  #9  
Gf8wrxV4ej20g's Avatar
Gf8wrxV4ej20g
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default

Originally Posted by 1509joe
Yes you can do ii
sorry to ask joe but.....have u acutely done it your self ? If so can u shed some light on the major problems I'll bump into ?
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2020 | 11:13 PM
  #10  
1509joe's Avatar
1509joe
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,487
Likes: 318
From: Not sure
Default

Yes we have done it apart from as stated above everything else is only silly things that will become blatantly obvious to you as you progress. Don't use cometic gaskets and if possible use ARP studs.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2020 | 05:43 AM
  #11  
Gf8wrxV4ej20g's Avatar
Gf8wrxV4ej20g
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default

Originally Posted by 1509joe
Yes we have done it apart from as stated above everything else is only silly things that will become blatantly obvious to you as you progress. Don't use cometic gaskets and if possible use ARP studs.
Thanks for confirming joe......i have arp head studs.....but why do u say dont use Cometic MLS gasket? From what i know after 2001 all EJ205 used MLS head gasket?
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2020 | 10:45 AM
  #12  
merlin24's Avatar
merlin24
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,032
Likes: 2
From: RM Performance
Default

Originally Posted by Gf8wrxV4ej20g
Thanks for confirming joe......i have arp head studs.....but why do u say dont use Cometic MLS gasket? From what i know after 2001 all EJ205 used MLS head gasket?
Better off using Cosworth or RCM MLS Stopper gaskets, I personally don't rate Cometic head gaskets.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2020 | 11:41 AM
  #13  
1509joe's Avatar
1509joe
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,487
Likes: 318
From: Not sure
Default

Merlin/Mick has the same view as myself by the looks of things but I've just seen your location
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2020 | 12:46 PM
  #14  
stockcar's Avatar
stockcar
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 6,840
Likes: 427
From: north east
Default

even Subaru MLS gaskets are better than Cometic.........

mail order down under is no issue
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2020 | 09:06 PM
  #15  
unglenorm's Avatar
unglenorm
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
From: shropshire
Default

Originally Posted by 1509joe
Yes we have done it apart from as stated above everything else is only silly things that will become blatantly obvious to you as you progress. Don't use cometic gaskets and if possible use ARP studs.
just wondering what thickness gaskets you used?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
wrxcook
General Technical
6
Sep 28, 2011 12:55 PM
DABALLS
ScoobyNet General
2
Aug 29, 2008 10:30 AM
Phildodd06
ScoobyNet General
14
Jul 11, 2008 05:15 PM
Papix
General Technical
9
May 9, 2008 11:56 AM
imprezered
General Technical
2
Apr 9, 2008 10:18 AM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:24 AM.