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Old 05 May 2014, 07:50 PM
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Update........

Well I had a bit of a strange moment today at the Gym, let me explain then maybe someone can maybe shed light on what may have happened.

I woke up this morning around 8am, made a fresh pot of filter coffee, had 2 cups, half hour passed and I had myself a cereal bar as I was going to hit the Gym, but then got side-tracked (kids!).

I get to the Gym around 10am after taking a MusclePhasm pre-workout shake. I jogged down the Gym which is around 400 yards away. I got on the treadmill on a variety setting (normal for me) at speed 10 (assume this is kmph) for 30 minutes, I managed 3 miles of constant inclines and various speeds when I felt a little nausea, I slowed right down and walked for around 5 minutes, felt ok and hit it at speed 14 for a last burst and felt very nausea and faint, I instantly stopped and jumped off, kept composed and cleaned off the machine of my swet (hmmm nice).... I moved onto some other machines, bicep and tricep curls and cable cross over, the sickness feeling faded a bit and I completed an hour in total and walked home.

However all through the day afterwards I have felt sh!te, I ate out thinking this might help but I still cant shake this nausea feeling. I have managed to keep everything down, even milk, but I am simply not myself.

Its good to mention I went out with an Army buddy on Sat night which was quite a cocktail fuelled night, but I had a lie in on Sunday, and I wasn't at all rough, but today!!!! wow,.

any thoughts, I figured it might be dehydration so I have guzzled loads of water, but still no change in the slight sick feeling,. I hope it's gone tomorrow.

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ps - oddly I managed a PB on triceps and biceps today, and I'm bloody feeling it!
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Probably just a physical reaction to the exertion. However if you're still feeling iffy tomorrow get yourself checked out Rob.
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Originally Posted by Rob Day View Post
Update........

Well I had a bit of a strange moment today at the Gym, let me explain then maybe someone can maybe shed light on what may have happened.

I woke up this morning around 8am, made a fresh pot of filter coffee, had 2 cups, half hour passed and I had myself a cereal bar as I was going to hit the Gym, but then got side-tracked (kids!).

I get to the Gym around 10am after taking a MusclePhasm pre-workout shake. I jogged down the Gym which is around 400 yards away. I got on the treadmill on a variety setting (normal for me) at speed 10 (assume this is kmph) for 30 minutes, I managed 3 miles of constant inclines and various speeds when I felt a little nausea, I slowed right down and walked for around 5 minutes, felt ok and hit it at speed 14 for a last burst and felt very nausea and faint, I instantly stopped and jumped off, kept composed and cleaned off the machine of my swet (hmmm nice).... I moved onto some other machines, bicep and tricep curls and cable cross over, the sickness feeling faded a bit and I completed an hour in total and walked home.

However all through the day afterwards I have felt sh!te, I ate out thinking this might help but I still cant shake this nausea feeling. I have managed to keep everything down, even milk, but I am simply not myself.

Its good to mention I went out with an Army buddy on Sat night which was quite a cocktail fuelled night, but I had a lie in on Sunday, and I wasn't at all rough, but today!!!! wow,.

any thoughts, I figured it might be dehydration so I have guzzled loads of water, but still no change in the slight sick feeling,. I hope it's gone tomorrow.

Rob

ps - oddly I managed a PB on triceps and biceps today, and I'm bloody feeling it!
First thing I would say is up your carbs, especially in the morning when going to the gym.(porridge or something like that)

I've had these feelings before in the gym when I was cutting and found it hard to get a pump etc but fixed it by loading up on carbs before and also after the gym and the best bit is you will still lose weight!
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Probably not enough food/water but more likely cumulative affects alcohol

Unless you've history?

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Old 05 May 2014, 10:45 PM
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I've lost a stone in 4 weeks. 10 days till topless butlers in magaluf

Porridge in morning with a spoonfull of honey. Nuts/raisins/banana for 10 oclock teabreak. Cooked chicken and apple for lunch. Dinner varies , but its usually meat with a mountain of veg.

my only sin is diet coke (caffeine free) now and again , and it was my birthday this week so I had a few bits of cake. I have compensated this by working in garden every day till late evening putting a new lawn in (digging lawn, concreting , raking , mixing concrete , carrying bags of sand/stones/cement)
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Ive been reading this thread with alot of interest, can anybody recommend a protein shake that does not make you run to the bog 30 mins after taking it?
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Ive been reading this thread with alot of interest, can anybody recommend a protein shake that does not make you run to the bog 30 mins after taking it?
I don't think there is any that don't imo. I've taken loads myself but what happens is you need to keep on taking it everyday amd after a week or two your body should get used to it. I've had the same experience and wasnt nice at all. Especially when I was trying to squat haha
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lol, Oh no! I dont want to have any nasty accidents at work!!

Does your body definately adjust? Do you think taking digestive enzymes might help?
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Ive been reading this thread with alot of interest, can anybody recommend a protein shake that does not make you run to the bog 30 mins after taking it?
Forget shakes and stick to food, food is king and will give you everything you need.
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lol, Oh no! I dont want to have any nasty accidents at work!!

Does your body definately adjust? Do you think taking digestive enzymes might help?
Your body should adjust. I don't know them mate. Try an avoid dairy if your lactose intolerant. But im sure there maybe other ways around it
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed View Post
I've lost a stone in 4 weeks.
That's fantastic.

Porridge in morning with a spoonfull of honey. Nuts/raisins/banana for 10 oclock teabreak. Cooked chicken and apple for lunch. Dinner varies , but its usually meat with a mountain of veg.

my only sin is diet coke (caffeine free) now and again , and it was my birthday this week so I had a few bits of cake. I have compensated this by working in garden every day till late evening putting a new lawn in (digging lawn, concreting , raking , mixing concrete , carrying bags of sand/stones/cement)
I need to do that except I hate gardening and all the tasks you describe. I'd do walks, but I don't like unleashed dogs run charging towards me. I'll just have to do my home exercises, and go for walks with my son's Staffy who'd rip every other dog apart if they bother me. Zumba is finished in our village now.

For food, I quite like to eat raw vegetables and fruits. That should help. I'll make sure it's like 5-a-day thingy. I'm not sure about that 7-a-day being any better tbh.
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Old 07 May 2014, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot View Post
That's fantastic.



I need to do that except I hate gardening and all the tasks you describe. I'd do walks, but I don't like unleashed dogs run charging towards me. I'll just have to do my home exercises, and go for walks with my son's Staffy who'd rip every other dog apart if they bother me. Zumba is finished in our village now.

For food, I quite like to eat raw vegetables and fruits. That should help. I'll make sure it's like 5-a-day thingy. I'm not sure about that 7-a-day being any better tbh.
1/2 stone in 1st week , the other half over the last 3 weeks. I'm more surprised by the physical appearance , and thats all I'm after anyway.

Wouldn't consider myself as a "keen gardener" , I have been landscaping the garden since I moved 4 years ago. When I get a chance to do a bit , I go hell for leather and enjoy the feeling of doing hard work with something to show. I'd never put that effort into the gym . Once the garden is complete it'll be grass cutting and weeding , thats all.

the food part is the hardest , I considered myself "addicted" , but people give up stuff all the time. So , I have just kicked my habit ! It's definitely just a matter of just saying no . No crisps/biscuits/chocolate, I seemed to have a new found love for fruit. I have always loved fruit and veg which is probably why my blood pressure/ colestoral etc is good , but its all the other junk that was piling on me. Now i cut junk out it can only be a good thing.

I think the 5 a day thing is a good idea , but if you combine it with cutting out bad stuff you're on a winner.
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Old 07 May 2014, 08:21 AM
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Ive been reading this thread with alot of interest, can anybody recommend a protein shake that does not make you run to the bog 30 mins after taking it?
Yes, this is what you are after here.....

http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutr.../10530104.html

This is by far the nicest tastest protein shake I have had, on a scale of a McDonald's milkshake being a 10 for taste, this stuff would get a 9, most of the others I have tasted would get a 4/5.

It's low in carbs, high in protein, high in BCCA's, (Muscle building blocks) tastes fantastic and is highly recommended on a lot of fitness forums. The added bonus of this true whey powder over the rest is it's digestive properties, no more runs to the toilet. It's basically the best thing since sliced bread

Chocolate orange flavour is really nice, strawberry very nice too. I haven't tasted any of the other flavours.

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Forget shakes and stick to food, food is king and will give you everything you need.
Pretty much impossible to get enough protein from food unless you're running around eating tins of tuna, boxes of eggs and 6 chicken breasts every day to which would get very boring. If you want to cut fat but RETAIN muscle you need to be eating at least 1g of protein for 1lb of body weight. The majority of people on diet will lose weight but also lose a lot of muscle mass in the process, every 2lbs of weight loss being 1lb fat, 1 lb muscle, what we need to do is change that to 2lb fat and we do that through protein saturation hence why the macros mentioned earlier in the thread are important to losing weight and retaining or building muscle

It's the whole chicken and egg situation. To lose weight, we must have a deficit of calories, to build muscle, we must have an excess of calories. We can therefore drop our bodyfat % by being in a calorie deficit whilst increasing our muscle mass % (Retaining the muscle mass we already have by eating lots of protein/BCAA's)

If you're a 14st man, try getting your way through 200g of protein every day just through food alone. It's pretty difficult hence why a lot of fitness guys use these supplements

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Old 07 May 2014, 09:56 AM
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Yes, this is what you are after here.....

http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutr.../10530104.html

This is by far the nicest tastest protein shake I have had, on a scale of a McDonald's milkshake being a 10 for taste, this stuff would get a 9, most of the others I have tasted would get a 4/5.

It's low in carbs, high in protein, high in BCCA's, (Muscle building blocks) tastes fantastic and is highly recommended on a lot of fitness forums. The added bonus of this true whey powder over the rest is it's digestive properties, no more runs to the toilet. It's basically the best thing since sliced bread

Chocolate orange flavour is really nice, strawberry very nice too. I haven't tasted any of the other flavours.



Pretty much impossible to get enough protein from food unless you're running around eating tins of tuna, boxes of eggs and 6 chicken breasts every day to which would get very boring. If you want to cut fat but RETAIN muscle you need to be eating at least 1g of protein for 1lb of body weight. The majority of people on diet will lose weight but also lose a lot of muscle mass in the process, every 2lbs of weight loss being 1lb fat, 1 lb muscle, what we need to do is change that to 2lb fat and we do that through protein saturation hence why the macros mentioned earlier in the thread are important to losing weight and retaining or building muscle

It's the whole chicken and egg situation. To lose weight, we must have a deficit of calories, to build muscle, we must have an excess of calories. We can therefore drop our bodyfat % by being in a calorie deficit whilst increasing our muscle mass % (Retaining the muscle mass we already have by eating lots of protein/BCAA's)

If you're a 14st man, try getting your way through 200g of protein every day just through food alone. It's pretty difficult hence why a lot of fitness guys use these supplements
What I mean is never substitute food for a protein shake, food will aways be better. A lot of people will skip meals because of shakes and that's not good.

I'm around 12 stone and pretty lean with abs showing.
No shakes of any kind just mostly salad boxes with some meat or tuna in it.
Doesn't even cost much just cutting out the crap like juice,crisps,sweets etc made a huge difference.
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Old 07 May 2014, 10:32 AM
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1/2 stone in 1st week , the other half over the last 3 weeks. I'm more surprised by the physical appearance , and thats all I'm after anyway.

Wouldn't consider myself as a "keen gardener" , I have been landscaping the garden since I moved 4 years ago. When I get a chance to do a bit , I go hell for leather and enjoy the feeling of doing hard work with something to show. I'd never put that effort into the gym . Once the garden is complete it'll be grass cutting and weeding , thats all.

the food part is the hardest , I considered myself "addicted" , but people give up stuff all the time. So , I have just kicked my habit ! It's definitely just a matter of just saying no . No crisps/biscuits/chocolate, I seemed to have a new found love for fruit. I have always loved fruit and veg which is probably why my blood pressure/ colestoral etc is good , but its all the other junk that was piling on me. Now i cut junk out it can only be a good thing.

I think the 5 a day thing is a good idea , but if you combine it with cutting out bad stuff you're on a winner.

Food is not an issue with me, CSW. It never has been. It's the lack of exercises that makes me feel unfit, and sets extra weight to my body. I used to be a regular exerciser and a sportswoman. It was me who inspired my kids to do physical exercises, and not because we have any genetically predisposed weight issue- not at all. Mine and Mister's families are slim. Actually, Mister's mum and sisters have weight issues, but he himself has a naturally athletic built like his late slim father. He's into his cycling as well. Both my kids are slim and trim, too. They regularly do their exercises and drink their healthy smoothies. The amount of fruits and veges we go through is unbelievable. What it is that for last 10 years, I'm physically more stagnant than ever. My life style has changed with my changed work style. As I say, I don't eat cwap, anyway. Actually, I don't even like cwap.

My son has suggested to me to keep it simple, and just to do at least half hour brisk cardiovascular exercise every day, which I already know I should. I do yoga and stuff at home, but that's not really a fat burner. I have all good gym machines at home as well, but just looking at them stresses me out. Let's see if I can keep to that half hour a day cardio exercise routine, if I can make time for it. All I've got to do is shed a stone, that's all.

Gardening is a great hobby, CSW. My mum and late dad in India loved it. I somehow never got into it. Most I can do is cut and strim the grass, because sometimes I have to.

You've done brilliantly with shedding your excess stone, by the way. Congrats.
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Cheers Turbo , I suppose we're opposites . I need to diet , you need exercise. I would find the exercise tough , my time and energy is spent doing jobs round the house , and I hate paying a gym membership.
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This is the protein I'm on at a good price.

http://www.olympushealth.com/olympus...otein-5kg.html
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Do like the flavour and consistency of USN GF-1
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Go Nutrition or The Protein Works are the current suppliers to go for.

If you really have sensitive guts, I'd try looking at a good whey isolate, i have maple syrup and it's lovely.

As for the dizzy spell, sounds like to me you either went hypo or dehydrated yourself neither one being good.

Keep something on hand for those times you need it, i keep rice cakes on hand for such an eventuality.

As for me still dieting, still questioning my sanity at times. Really pushing the whole low carb thing aiming for less than 80g per day, certainly noticed my thinking has slowed down.

Got me three months of this, than i kick things off that should get me a lot leaner with any luck.

On the upside weight is still around 98kg or so.

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I've finally given in and accepted that I'll need some cardio as well to shift the body fat. I ran 2.5 miles at 6am this morning in the pissing rain - it sucked!
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Update.

Well the nausea feeling went away the following day, thank for the input chaps!

I was feeling a little crap the day after but no sickness feeling, I just drank plenty of water and kept up with the routine. I'm not one for being poorly, and when I am I just get on with it, but this one had me worrying, the last time I felt faint was when I was kicked in the forehead at football some 10 years ago!


Anyway moving on from that now........
I have walked to a and from work for the last two days, on the way home today the heavy showers caught me out, and I got bloody drenched, so once home I grabbed my gym gear and headed down after boosting on a preworkout shake. I have to say today was the easiest I've had it on the treadmill. No fatigue and certainly no shortness of breath, I was amazed that I managed to complete 3 miles of variety climbs (no more than 3.5deg) in under 18 minutes, and finished off with a 0.5 steady walk, then only 20 minutes on the arms before I had to get home to rescue the wife from the nippers!

The point I am making is after the walk to work at 5am (2miles) > work > walk home at 3pm (1.75miles) > 3 miles at the gym I expected to be buggered during the last run, but I honestly think I could have gone at least another couple of miles without too much trouble, but time was ticking away.

Weather permitting I'll try the same walk again to work, and try hitting the gym again after a juice with a 5 miles run in mind, it seems to help somehow

Well I've sorted the kids out, had a nice pasta, feta, pesto with salad, and I'm now going to chill as my legs are now tired, but still I feel great in myself. It's true that exercise does make you feel better about yourself, no matter what it is your doing!

Over and out

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On my 5 week. 4 days till topless butler in Magaluf. Just been trying on last years summer clothes , and went out to buy a few new bits n bobs. Its a great feeling to find that all my old gear is big on me and new stuff has went from 38in waist or xl tops , to 36in and L tops in the space of a month and a bit. Cant wait till summer hols in ibiza now ! Reckon by then I'll be a 34in , on even 32 like I was in my teens!

I know I sound like a woman , but I'll actually feel comfortable walking round the pool for once. My belt in my jeans has went from the 3rd hole to the 4th and even at that its just sitting there for looks rather than being tight , needs to be in last hole to be doing anything !

just going to keep resisting junk and see what comes of it.
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How seriously should I take shin splints? Went out 5times last week running approx 2.4miles. Shins are pretty sore but the rest of me is grand. Should I lay off the running for a bit or tear on?
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On my 5 week. 4 days till topless butler in Magaluf. Just been trying on last years summer clothes , and went out to buy a few new bits n bobs. Its a great feeling to find that all my old gear is big on me and new stuff has went from 38in waist or xl tops , to 36in and L tops in the space of a month and a bit. Cant wait till summer hols in ibiza now ! Reckon by then I'll be a 34in , on even 32 like I was in my teens!

I know I sound like a woman , but I'll actually feel comfortable walking round the pool for once. My belt in my jeans has went from the 3rd hole to the 4th and even at that its just sitting there for looks rather than being tight , needs to be in last hole to be doing anything !

just going to keep resisting junk and see what comes of it.
It all makes perfect sense to me pal, I just felt uncomfortable in myself, that's what spurred me to want to exercise, as I've tried the old diet any no exercise trick in the past to no avail.

I was a 32" waist for years, and then the last 5 years have seen me going to a 36" for some clothes brands, quite annoying really when you think back, as then I was quite active, then kids came along with more work load and bang I became complacent not playing football, and training .

You'll be fine on your holidays, I've several lads holidays whom are all built of all sizes, and regardless they get the shirts off, and if your loosing weight and feeling good about yourself then it's more of a reason to get your chest out
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How seriously should I take shin splints? Went out 5times last week running approx 2.4miles. Shins are pretty sore but the rest of me is grand. Should I lay off the running for a bit or tear on?
Have you not been to see your GP? I believe this can take quite some time to recover.
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Have you not been to see your GP? I believe this can take quite some time to recover.
Just my luck, will schedule an appointment with my GP tomorrow then! I started running because I hurt my shoulder the previous week.... it's still not right either, when washing my car today it kept clicking like a champion.

In 2 months of trying to get "fit" I have sustained more injuries than I have in 10 years of being unfit.
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Just my luck, will schedule an appointment with my GP tomorrow then! I started running because I hurt my shoulder the previous week.... it's still not right either, when washing my car today it kept clicking like a champion.

In 2 months of trying to get "fit" I have sustained more injuries than I have in 10 years of being unfit.
Maybe swimming is your best bet.
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Just my luck, will schedule an appointment with my GP tomorrow then! I started running because I hurt my shoulder the previous week.... it's still not right either, when washing my car today it kept clicking like a champion.

In 2 months of trying to get "fit" I have sustained more injuries than I have in 10 years of being unfit.
http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/shin-splints

I wouldn't bother your GP with this until implementing the above.
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Maybe swimming is your best bet.
I go swimming once a week. As of yet, I have found no way of hurting myself doing it...other than my pride.
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