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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
and you cant attach the front bumper if the bar is removed

plus most of those parts dont weigh a lot and would never add up to the claimed weight saving.
They do, to the nearest gram too

I even a chiseled a bit off the doors to get the Carbon pillars to fit.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Brackets that protect the injector bases and I believe hold the OE fuel rails.

They probably have a more accurate name.
I can't think what you mean, from my point of view on a classic anyway.
Do you mean the top hats that hold the injectors into the rails?
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
They do, to the nearest gram too

I even a chiseled a bit off the doors to get the Carbon pillars to fit.
so what holds the front bumper on then as the clips wont hold it without a bumper bar, i know this as i removed to have it powdercoated after fitting a fmic and the bumper wouldnt go back on.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
I can't think what you mean, from my point of view on a classic anyway.
Do you mean the top hats that hold the injectors into the rails?
there is some sort of crash protection over the injectors on a newage, weighs fck all though but is a pain to get on and off sometimes when fitting injectors.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
so what holds the front bumper on then as the clips wont hold it without a bumper bar, i know this as i removed to have it powdercoated after fitting a fmic and the bumper wouldnt go back on.
Dunno, ask Scoobyclinic, they took off a substantial amount of items. The discarded pile looked like a small scrapyard.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
there is some sort of crash protection over the injectors on a newage, weighs fck all though but is a pain to get on and off sometimes when fitting injectors.
They were quite heavy tbh, very tough. To remove from the offside is a minor miracle. Don't google them either it's impossible to find a pic of them.

Some other redundant brackets were removed at the same time of the injector shields? but I'm damned if I know what they did.

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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 09:56 PM
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Classics need the bumper bar to fix on, however hawkeye's don't, didn't have one on mine, unsure on blob/bugs though
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BurtyBurg
Classics need the bumper bar to fix on, however hawkeye's don't, didn't have one on mine, unsure on blob/bugs though
TBH Tubbs is right, god is keeping my bumper and pillar covers on.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by joshnosh
Colder means more oxygen and that means the ECU puts more fuel in.
I would have thought this just increased revs and less throttle was required to keep the same acceleration.

Is it just a tickover and cruise affliction?
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BurtyBurg
Classics need the bumper bar to fix on, however hawkeye's don't, didn't have one on mine, unsure on blob/bugs though
yes the bumper sits on top of the bar. hence if the bar is removed the bumper wouldnt hold on the car.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:11 PM
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MPH-----AMBIENT-TEMP-----MPG (US)

60------------95----------52.98
60------------85----------52.62
60------------75----------51.16
60------------65----------49.12
60------------55----------47.22
60------------45----------44.67
60------------35----------43.05
60------------25----------41.54
60------------15----------39.41
60------------05----------38.09

Doing a quick calc my 35mpg ave could soar to 40mpg if we have a decent summer.

I'm going to get the geometry sorted soon too, so I'll report back if that gives a noticeable rise.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
I hope this is a wind up, wont to sound dafter than Tommytitbrain?



I was going from the commonly stated 1380kg so 1275kg if that's ok?

5kg FIA custom racing seats
Aircon & ancillaries removed
Alternator cover removed
Airbox resonator and intake removed
Front girder removed
Horseshoe brace removed
Bonnet sound-proofing removed
Boot carpet
Boot sound-proofing
floor mats
jack
jack bracket
spare wheel removed
Rear seat sound proofing removed
Fog lights and holding brackets removed
Unneeded plastic cut from front bumper
Boot light bracket removed
Roof handle & brackets removed
Driver foot rest removed
Roof strengthening plates removed
Radiator side brackets removed
Injector brackets removed
Ashtray lid
lighter removed
Polycarbonate battery clamp
Carbon fibre pillar covers
Rota GRA lightweight alloys
TPI lightweight tuner nuts
2 catalytic converters swapped for lighter pipes.

Plus few other things that I've missed.

Basically the rear seats still remain.

I'm looking into lightweight battery, steering wheel, prop-shaft and panels/glass to save another serious chunk. I wish I'd known how heavy calipers were before buying OE replacements.

so you don't mind reducing the structural rigidity and crash protection

what did your insurance say when you told them that you have removed some crash protection that had been fitted as std and tested by euroNcap?
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
yes the bumper sits on top of the bar. hence if the bar is removed the bumper wouldnt hold on the car.
Don't worry about it TT, AET do away with the front crash bar when they fit a huge Hyperflow FMIC.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BoozyDave
so you don't mind reducing the structural rigidity and crash protection
Unlike Tubbs I change my grundies regularly.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Don't worry about it TT, AET do away with the front crash bar when they fit a huge Hyperflow FMIC.
i dont worry about it, im merely pointing out the bumper will fall off with no bar, aet use a bar still that holds the bumper up.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
i dont worry about it, im merely pointing out the bumper will fall off with no bar, aet use a bar still that holds the bumper up.
Tubbs, you're sh*tting me up now, what the hell is keeping my bumper on?
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Tubbs, you're sh*tting me up now, what the hell is keeping my bumper on?
lies id imagine
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Unlike Tubbs I change my grundies regularly.
noticed the body swerve on the insurance question
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy

lies id imagine
LMAO you guys both ruin and significantly improve this forum at the same time
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by joshnosh
LMAO you guys both ruin and significantly improve this forum at the same time
best thing is i dont even have a subaru and cess pit makes up the stuff he has done to his
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
best thing is i dont even have a subaru and cess pit makes up the stuff he has done to his
Like front bumpers stay on with double sided tape and pillar covers need the removal of the roof and doors to fit?

Ha ha 3M, you deny an ARB fractionally improves fuel consumption and the weather has an effect on MPG but when more knowledgeable members prove me right you go awfully quiet on matters.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Like front bumpers stay on with double sided tape and pillar covers need the removal of the roof and doors to fit?

Ha ha 3M, you deny an ARB fractionally improves fuel consumption and the weather has an effect on MPG but when more knowledgeable members prove me right you go awfully quiet on matters.
i agreed with you on the cold, mpg thing

the arb thing is utter b0ll0cks thats why it got moved to muppet room
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green brackets of death

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What the hell are they? Lol
Iv done there opposite off matt. Iv put more sound proffing in. Gas tank. Sub. amps. Tow rope. Jump leads. Fire extinguisher. Socket set. Torque wrench. Iv probably added more than what you've lost lol
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Originally Posted by joshnosh
What the hell are they? Lol
Iv done there opposite off matt. Iv put more sound proffing in. Gas tank. Sub. amps. Tow rope. Jump leads. Fire extinguisher. Socket set. Torque wrench. Iv probably added more than what you've lost lol
hes just made his car unsafe,uncomfortable and uninsured, it will still be slow
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy

hes just made his car unsafe,uncomfortable and uninsured, it will still be slow
Can't have it every way I guess. There are sacrifices to be made if you want to get 50mpg and still beat 400bhp stis...
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Old Feb 3, 2014 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by joshnosh
Can't have it every way I guess. There are sacrifices to be made if you want to get 50mpg and still beat 400bhp stis...
Dunno only compromises I've made will effect me if I crash or get a punner and I won't crash at high speeds that's for sure. I don't smoke so don't need the lighter, I've never used the aircon (apart from in a Mustang in Florida at a humid 35c). Believe it or not the roof handles were a big loss as I tended to hold one as I drove.

50mpg might be too ambitious even in the long run but 40 is definitely on the horizon

I could beat 400bhp STI's from the lights when the car was stock. Believe it or not my opponents tended not to launch hard predicting an easy win. TBH that was 5 years ago when Scoobs were more common place, I haven't had a blast from the lights against a scoob for 5 years.

Has anyone ever used water coolant additives that also increase engine warm up time?

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Lol and four hundred bhp impreza stis are on every corner in Wakefield waiting to race wrxs...
Cess pit you should be on stage.

As for crash protection. What did your insurance company say when you told them you have removed it??

The thing is about crashes is they sometimes happen to you whether you drive fast or not and sometimes caused by others.

Nice to know you carry kids and passengers in a car with missing crash structure.

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Old Feb 3, 2014 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
Lol and four hundred bhp impreza stis were on every corner in Wakefield waiting to race wrxs...
Cess pit you should be on stage.
Edited for accuracy.

Have you ever seen 'The Neverending Story?' it's like the nothing is taking all the Imps out of Wakefield.

Tuppence my car is far slower now to 60 than it was when stock if I don't give it the beans before launching. I have 100bhp more and 120kg less weight. One day you'll get it.
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So what did the insurance say when you informed them of the modifications you have done???
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