Driveway/perimeter sensor alarms
09 November 2013, 07:23 PM
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Looks like I missed reading a b!tchfight. Come on, put those posts back up, Ali. 
We live in virtually a no-risk area, but I unfortunately experienced a theft when Mr. T and I were asleep upstairs. Left me shaken for a long time, but got better with time. It was my fault, I left the kitchen window open to invite them in- silly me. Lesson learnt.
Some people have no experience of theft, but they get vicariously warned, and put precautionary measures in; just in case. That's fine, but every so often when anyone wants to upgrade their alarms, it could be their ever-growing paranoia or their boasting of their wealth in public. They shouldn't boast, as that could make them vulnerable to theft tbh. Then again, they might mention house alarms every now and again so that everyone knows that they are the fat cat made of money, of course, but they are untouchable.
Ah, well.
Having a decent alarm system is one thing, but having it so James Bond that not even a shadow can look at your property with one eye is simply a sign of ever-increasing paranoia. if that's what the wealth does to one, I'm better off being poor. If anyone says that "it's to protect my family from harm, I don't care about my house and possessions", well, you don't need to be too worried if you have just a decent alarm system to your house. If you continue to worry like this, you may end up fitting an alarm each on the bodyies of your family members ffs.
Isolated mansion owners in the middle of nowhere can justify top of the range alarm system. But in urban settings (even the housing estates in the rural setting) with low level theft risk just a decent-ish alarm should do, if one is that worried. No need for some laser network so that even Tom Cruise has to bend in three to get through it. Well, unless you have a house with gates like Tulisa's.
A local paper said that some drug dealers in Liverpool with 50 Cent style gated houses have fantastic alarm systems. They also have vicious dogs if alarm fails. I can understand why they are so paranoid.
We live in virtually a no-risk area, but I unfortunately experienced a theft when Mr. T and I were asleep upstairs. Left me shaken for a long time, but got better with time. It was my fault, I left the kitchen window open to invite them in- silly me. Lesson learnt.
Some people have no experience of theft, but they get vicariously warned, and put precautionary measures in; just in case. That's fine, but every so often when anyone wants to upgrade their alarms, it could be their ever-growing paranoia or their boasting of their wealth in public. They shouldn't boast, as that could make them vulnerable to theft tbh. Then again, they might mention house alarms every now and again so that everyone knows that they are the fat cat made of money, of course, but they are untouchable.
Ah, well. Having a decent alarm system is one thing, but having it so James Bond that not even a shadow can look at your property with one eye is simply a sign of ever-increasing paranoia. if that's what the wealth does to one, I'm better off being poor. If anyone says that "it's to protect my family from harm, I don't care about my house and possessions", well, you don't need to be too worried if you have just a decent alarm system to your house. If you continue to worry like this, you may end up fitting an alarm each on the bodyies of your family members ffs.
Isolated mansion owners in the middle of nowhere can justify top of the range alarm system. But in urban settings (even the housing estates in the rural setting) with low level theft risk just a decent-ish alarm should do, if one is that worried. No need for some laser network so that even Tom Cruise has to bend in three to get through it. Well, unless you have a house with gates like Tulisa's.
A local paper said that some drug dealers in Liverpool with 50 Cent style gated houses have fantastic alarm systems. They also have vicious dogs if alarm fails. I can understand why they are so paranoid.
Seriously, that must be one of the most judgmental and ill thought out posts you have ever made.
It's so full of sweeping generalisations and exaggerations that it beggars belief.
And what credentials do you have in terms of security to decide what is the appropriate level of security in different localities? Who are you to decide what should be deemed appropriate measures and what signifies paranoia? Who are you to decide what you have termed 'excessive security'?
In other words you've decided that what you do is just right, and everybody else who acts differently falls outside of the norm??
Why do you keep going on about James Bond, Tom Cruise etc etc??
We are talking about a pir sensor (like some public toilets have) that will illuminate poorly lit parts of your house ie the garden, side access path etc. All this costs less than a years subscription to Sky, or what some people spend on cat food in a year.
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09 November 2013, 07:29 PM
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09 November 2013, 07:29 PM
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My view is that if I were to up my home contents insurance to cover replacement of all the itmes in the house, I would be paying out more for appropriate cover, than what a good security setup on my property costs.
I am not materialistic, the safety and personal security of my children and my wife are of paramount importance, evrything else is replaceable, they are not. The balance of this position though is that I have worked damn hard to provide my family with the things we have, I am not going to make it easy for Jonny the ****** to waltz in when the notion grabs him and help himself to whatever takes his fancy, for this reason I have put in place some measures that harden my property slightly more than some of the neighbouring addresses.
I am not materialistic, the safety and personal security of my children and my wife are of paramount importance, evrything else is replaceable, they are not. The balance of this position though is that I have worked damn hard to provide my family with the things we have, I am not going to make it easy for Jonny the ****** to waltz in when the notion grabs him and help himself to whatever takes his fancy, for this reason I have put in place some measures that harden my property slightly more than some of the neighbouring addresses.
09 November 2013, 07:45 PM
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My view is that if I were to up my home contents insurance to cover replacement of all the itmes in the house, I would be paying out more for appropriate cover, than what a good security setup on my property costs.
I am not materialistic, the safety and personal security of my children and my wife are of paramount importance, evrything else is replaceable, they are not. The balance of this position though is that I have worked damn hard to provide my family with the things we have, I am not going to make it easy for Jonny the ****** to waltz in when the notion grabs him and help himself to whatever takes his fancy, for this reason I have put in place some measures that harden my property slightly more than some of the neighbouring addresses.
I am not materialistic, the safety and personal security of my children and my wife are of paramount importance, evrything else is replaceable, they are not. The balance of this position though is that I have worked damn hard to provide my family with the things we have, I am not going to make it easy for Jonny the ****** to waltz in when the notion grabs him and help himself to whatever takes his fancy, for this reason I have put in place some measures that harden my property slightly more than some of the neighbouring addresses.
For me Tarmac the possessions really don't mean anything. The most valuable stuff in my house is my AV and Hi Fi gear
, apart from that there is no real jewellery, cash etc in my house. And I wish somebody would nick my car so I'd have an excuse to buy a new oneHowever I'm not keen on having my home burgled, especially if my wife, kids etc are around.
I'm glad that certain people on this thread feel the way they do. Because if they live next door to me Johny thief will target their house rather than mine because mine will look like too much hard work.
09 November 2013, 07:45 PM
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Seriously, that must be one of the most judgmental and ill thought out posts you have ever made.
It's so full of sweeping generalisations and exaggerations that it beggars belief.
And what credentials do you have in terms of security to decide what is the appropriate level of security in different localities? Who are you to decide what should be deemed appropriate measures and what signifies paranoia? Who are you to decide what you have termed 'excessive security'?
In other words you've decided that what you do is just right, and everybody else who acts differently falls outside of the norm??
Why do you keep going on about James Bond, Tom Cruise etc etc??
We are talking about a pir sensor (like some public toilets have) that will illuminate poorly lit parts of your house ie the garden, side access path etc. All this costs less than a years subscription to Sky, or what some people spend on cat food in a year.
It's so full of sweeping generalisations and exaggerations that it beggars belief.
And what credentials do you have in terms of security to decide what is the appropriate level of security in different localities? Who are you to decide what should be deemed appropriate measures and what signifies paranoia? Who are you to decide what you have termed 'excessive security'?
In other words you've decided that what you do is just right, and everybody else who acts differently falls outside of the norm??
Why do you keep going on about James Bond, Tom Cruise etc etc??
We are talking about a pir sensor (like some public toilets have) that will illuminate poorly lit parts of your house ie the garden, side access path etc. All this costs less than a years subscription to Sky, or what some people spend on cat food in a year.
Seriously, do you understand that you are not the only one to have opinions? I don't need credentials to back up what I think. what I think is my right to think, just like you have your right to be flippant and insulting to anyone you like.
No, in no other words I have decided that what I do is just right, and everybody else who acts differently falls outside of the norm. On contrary, in other words, what you think is right shouldn't be contradicted. Personally, I don't give a damn whether you or anyone has the best alarm system in the world or not.
Do what you like, but people will put their opinions on things on a public forum, so put up with it. No one is as insulting and flippant as you on this forum, so grow some cheek to face up to some opposite views to yours.
Yes, people who go overboard with tons of security around their houses are paranoid. That's my view.
If you aren't paranoid, and only talking normal alarms, good for you. No need to get defensive, is there?
About James Bond and Tom Cruise, it's just for fun FFS! You would still find anything to put people down, so keep nit-picking for **** all.
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09 November 2013, 07:55 PM
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Seriously, do you understand that you are not the only one to have opinions? I don't need credentials to back up what I think. what I think is my right to think, just like you have your right to be flippant and insulting to anyone you like.
No, in no other words I have decided that what I do is just right, and everybody else who acts differently falls outside of the norm. On contrary, in other words, what you think is right shouldn't be contradicted. Personally, I don't give a damn whether you or anyone has the best alarm system in the world or not.
Do what you like, but people will put their opinions on things on a public forum, so put up with it. No one is as insulting and flippant as you on this forum, so grow some cheek to face up to some opposite views to yours.
Yes, people who go overboard with tons of security around their houses are paranoid. That's my view.
If you aren't like paranoid, and only talking normal alarms, good for you. No need to get defensive, is there?
About James Bond and Tom Cruise, it's just for fun FFS! You would still find anything to put people down, so keep nit-picking for **** all.
No, in no other words I have decided that what I do is just right, and everybody else who acts differently falls outside of the norm. On contrary, in other words, what you think is right shouldn't be contradicted. Personally, I don't give a damn whether you or anyone has the best alarm system in the world or not.
Do what you like, but people will put their opinions on things on a public forum, so put up with it. No one is as insulting and flippant as you on this forum, so grow some cheek to face up to some opposite views to yours.
Yes, people who go overboard with tons of security around their houses are paranoid. That's my view.
If you aren't like paranoid, and only talking normal alarms, good for you. No need to get defensive, is there?
About James Bond and Tom Cruise, it's just for fun FFS! You would still find anything to put people down, so keep nit-picking for **** all.
You are entitled to your opinion but it is actually irrelevant to the thread and irrelevant to me.
Keep going though, I'm sure somebody might be interested in your ramblings, certainly not me.
09 November 2013, 07:58 PM
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Looks like I missed reading a b!tchfight. Come on, put those posts back up, Ali.
We live in virtually a no-risk area, but I unfortunately experienced a theft when Mr. T and I were asleep upstairs. Left me shaken for a long time, but got better with time. It was my fault, I left the kitchen window open to invite them in- silly me. Lesson learnt.
Some people have no experience of theft, but they get vicariously warned, and put precautionary measures in; just in case. That's fine, but every so often when anyone wants to upgrade their alarms, it could be their ever-growing paranoia or their boasting of their wealth in public. They shouldn't boast, as that could make them vulnerable to theft tbh. Then again, they might mention house alarms every now and again so that everyone knows that they are the fat cat made of money, of course, but they are untouchable. Ah, well.
Having a decent alarm system is one thing, but having it so James Bond that not even a shadow can look at your property with one eye is simply a sign of ever-increasing paranoia. if that's what the wealth does to one, I'm better off being poor. If anyone says that "it's to protect my family from harm, I don't care about my house and possessions", well, you don't need to be too worried if you have just a decent alarm system to your house. If you continue to worry like this, you may end up fitting an alarm each on the bodyies of your family members ffs.
Isolated mansion owners in the middle of nowhere can justify top of the range alarm system. But in urban settings (even the housing estates in the rural setting) with low level theft risk just a decent-ish alarm should do, if one is that worried. No need for some laser network so that even Tom Cruise has to bend in three to get through it. Well, unless you have a house with gates like Tulisa's.
A local paper said that some drug dealers in Liverpool with 50 Cent style gated houses have fantastic alarm systems. They also have vicious dogs if alarm fails. I can understand why they are so paranoid.
We live in virtually a no-risk area, but I unfortunately experienced a theft when Mr. T and I were asleep upstairs. Left me shaken for a long time, but got better with time. It was my fault, I left the kitchen window open to invite them in- silly me. Lesson learnt.
Some people have no experience of theft, but they get vicariously warned, and put precautionary measures in; just in case. That's fine, but every so often when anyone wants to upgrade their alarms, it could be their ever-growing paranoia or their boasting of their wealth in public. They shouldn't boast, as that could make them vulnerable to theft tbh. Then again, they might mention house alarms every now and again so that everyone knows that they are the fat cat made of money, of course, but they are untouchable.
Ah, well. Having a decent alarm system is one thing, but having it so James Bond that not even a shadow can look at your property with one eye is simply a sign of ever-increasing paranoia. if that's what the wealth does to one, I'm better off being poor. If anyone says that "it's to protect my family from harm, I don't care about my house and possessions", well, you don't need to be too worried if you have just a decent alarm system to your house. If you continue to worry like this, you may end up fitting an alarm each on the bodyies of your family members ffs.
Isolated mansion owners in the middle of nowhere can justify top of the range alarm system. But in urban settings (even the housing estates in the rural setting) with low level theft risk just a decent-ish alarm should do, if one is that worried. No need for some laser network so that even Tom Cruise has to bend in three to get through it. Well, unless you have a house with gates like Tulisa's.
A local paper said that some drug dealers in Liverpool with 50 Cent style gated houses have fantastic alarm systems. They also have vicious dogs if alarm fails. I can understand why they are so paranoid.
10 November 2013, 08:53 PM
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Many thanks to Spoon and Tarmac. I've decided to go with the GJD gear as suggested, very reasonably priced as well actually.
Despite the nut jobs with their personal agendas there is always good advice to be had from Scoobnet.
Despite the nut jobs with their personal agendas there is always good advice to be had from Scoobnet.
10 November 2013, 10:36 PM
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I have an alarm that phones my phone if it goes off, 2 big angry dogs that make everyone in the village hate me and cctv. Paraniod yep I am, the more nice **** you have, the more risks people are willing to take to steal it from you.
10 November 2013, 11:51 PM
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For me its not paranoia, I used to fit car alarms, so technically I lived off other people's paranoia LOL.
Just from my stance I know is what is possible, and what works and what doesn't, so naturally this has transferred over to my own house alarms. For example, I know sirens don't work, they rarely do. CCTV is only any good if it live streams directly to you (be it if you are home or away) and notifies you of the event as it takes place, recording everything to view after the event is really a bit too late and rather pointless as they are rarely located is the best position or good enough resolution to get clear view of faces.
What does work is being informed of the event the very instant it happens, ideally with additional means to allow you verify it and take appropriate action. A simple siren blaring away whilst you are away at work doesn't do that. Exterior perimeter protection is an extension of that; knowing someone is trespassing before they break into the property means they have less time to cause any damage and you have more time to act. That is not paranoia, just common sense.
Just from my stance I know is what is possible, and what works and what doesn't, so naturally this has transferred over to my own house alarms. For example, I know sirens don't work, they rarely do. CCTV is only any good if it live streams directly to you (be it if you are home or away) and notifies you of the event as it takes place, recording everything to view after the event is really a bit too late and rather pointless as they are rarely located is the best position or good enough resolution to get clear view of faces.
What does work is being informed of the event the very instant it happens, ideally with additional means to allow you verify it and take appropriate action. A simple siren blaring away whilst you are away at work doesn't do that. Exterior perimeter protection is an extension of that; knowing someone is trespassing before they break into the property means they have less time to cause any damage and you have more time to act. That is not paranoia, just common sense.
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11 November 2013, 08:14 AM
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For me its not paranoia, I used to fit car alarms, so technically I lived off other people's paranoia LOL.
Just from my stance I know is what is possible, and what works and what doesn't, so naturally this has transferred over to my own house alarms. For example, I know sirens don't work, they rarely do.
Just from my stance I know is what is possible, and what works and what doesn't, so naturally this has transferred over to my own house alarms. For example, I know sirens don't work, they rarely do.
CCTV is only any good if it live streams directly to you (be it if you are home or away) and notifies you of the event as it takes place, recording everything to view after the event is really a bit too late and rather pointless as they are rarely located is the best position or good enough resolution to get clear view of faces.
What does work is being informed of the event the very instant it happens, ideally with additional means to allow you verify it and take appropriate action. A simple siren blaring away whilst you are away at work doesn't do that. Exterior perimeter protection is an extension of that; knowing someone is trespassing before they break into the property means they have less time to cause any damage and you have more time to act. That is not paranoia, just common sense.
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