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Old 01 July 2013, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
it might not be that but i cant really see why else it would fail.my new engine is running an 11mm modded oil pump so fingers crossed

i tell you what matey,i will tune my current engine to 450bhp as you say they will take it then if it goes bang you give me your car as a replacement..............deal?

i knew you had a heart

on a serious note, save the money your going to spend on the build, run your current car to 450 bhp and see what happens, if it pops then go ahead with the build, if it doesn't you have saved 3k.
Old 01 July 2013, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
on a serious note, save the money your going to spend on the build, run your current car to 450 bhp and see what happens, if it pops then go ahead with the build, if it doesn't you have saved 3k.
only problem is if it goes pop then im stuck without a car for god knows how long while i save for a build
Old 01 July 2013, 09:08 PM
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Not having faith in a new lump, I get that! That's why you need a brand new crate 2.5, surely a brand new motor is gonna give you peace of mind. What turbo are you looking ?

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Old 01 July 2013, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by joe v3sti
Not having faith in a new lump, I get that! That's why you need a brand new crate 2.5, surely a brand new motor is gonna give you peace of mind. What turbo are you looking ?

Joe
not sure yet,probably something from the sc range or the md range
Old 01 July 2013, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I think you can pick up a 2.5 block for circa £100, much like the WRX block both of which are perfectly adequate for the op's requirements.

All I'd say to the op is if your on a budget or you just don't want to spend stupid money, (like me) then it's worth looking at other options to arrive at your end goal.
2.5 block for £100? Where from? I want one
Old 01 July 2013, 10:13 PM
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Mine was new out the crate, 2.5 sti lump, had it for 5 years now, matey before me that put it in had it like that for a year or so. Been running between 350-410 now in that time. Its not my everyday car but I'm using it a lot at the moment. Think that there are a lot of horror stories but you don't tend to hear about the good ones as much if at all
Old 01 July 2013, 10:18 PM
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Although saying that id not run it at the figures your looking for so would be a waste of time for you
Old 01 July 2013, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by joe v3sti
For some reason I thought Daz's was 600bhp either way I know it was a bloody lot! Then you've got Frayz his is something like 570 I think.

Both these examples are crazy power. I have to agree there are other ways of making it a quick car than having high headline figures.
I agree the 2.5 needs a little bit of work, minimum a set of pistons. Out of curiosity what is the cost of a new 2.5 short block these days??

Joe
Hi Joe

Both of them(Daz and Frayz) running pinned blocks and pinning price will add up unnecessary cost

If he will go with 2.1L on WRX block he will be OK,we run 490bhp on OBD block,block has been build for 550bhp,which should be enough for OP

You will need more than set of pistons for reliable 2.5L

Jura

Originally Posted by the shreksta
well i have a spare scdb (bottom end knocking) i dont see the point in buying another block when this one will do,i plan to buy most or the parts from real street performance in america to save alot of money,i had a quote for

new ej205 crank
cp forged pistons
manley H-beam rods
acl rod bearings race series
acl main bearings race series
cosworth headgaskets

the whole lot including shipping was £1150
Spec looks good,but still would speak with them about the 2.1L stroker kit,price should be very similar

Plus I would add 11mm ARP headstuds to this spec

Jura
Old 01 July 2013, 11:27 PM
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well having gathered that you have a 2.0l sti bottom end now why are you bothering with a strokerd engine build when what you have is capable of reaching the figures your after?

I'd do all the supporting mods to get to 450 and then have a block on the back burner to rebuild as and when requierd.

One main point is to find the EXACT reason your previous engine failed, as it won't matter whats in there if your original problem is not solved.

and thats coming from someone who had a forged bottom end let go.

People seem to think that forging is some kind of insurance policy against a failed engine, well I can tell you categorically it is not, and in fact it's no stronger than a standard engine when it comes to failure.
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