Getting into offshore work
22 April 2013, 06:13 PM
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http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-sc...iness-21792466
An interesting article that states average salary in the North Sea is £64k and is likely to rise to £73k within the next year.
However, it then states that only 15% earn more than this so presumably 85% earn less. What a stupid frecking article. They should have posted median averages as contractors sway these figures.
No idea what the average is (median) but Id say less than £50k pa. Roustabouts/Roughnecks/Stewards/Chefs/Scaffolders/Painters etc etc are all earning less than this. Lowest pay is Steward/Rousty and they are on around £30k.
Plenty money on offer though if you're prepared to work for it but as per my 1st post, for me anyway, there's far more to life than just £££
An interesting article that states average salary in the North Sea is £64k and is likely to rise to £73k within the next year.
However, it then states that only 15% earn more than this so presumably 85% earn less. What a stupid frecking article. They should have posted median averages as contractors sway these figures.
No idea what the average is (median) but Id say less than £50k pa. Roustabouts/Roughnecks/Stewards/Chefs/Scaffolders/Painters etc etc are all earning less than this. Lowest pay is Steward/Rousty and they are on around £30k.
Plenty money on offer though if you're prepared to work for it but as per my 1st post, for me anyway, there's far more to life than just £££
22 April 2013, 06:33 PM
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£10-15k month is for working 30 days x 12 hrs remember = 360hrs (Normal working month = 150hrs) They would go home for a month and not earn anything so its really £10-15k for 2 months. Regardless, these are only short term contracts, you may get 1 trip, 2 trips, perhaps even 3 but its not a full time solution, just a quick fix and then searching for another position again. These are not permanent North Sea salaries, they're contractor rates in hell hole locations.
I work in the offshore oil and gas industry and it's pish being stuck offshore, 90% of the guys that work offshore hate it but are money trapped. You spend half your life on a rig in remote places, for the guys that say see the world, water looks like water, no matter where in the world you go, even when you do go to work on land, the locations are remote and in shi*hole countries, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Malaysia etc. Would you pay to go on holidays to these sh*tholes? No, most probably you wouldn't, there's no fun working in them either, believe me. Sticky hot or blisteringly cold and full of lazy, smelly, rude ill disciplined locals that at times you feel what you tell them goes in one ear and straight out the other without registering anything inbetween.
You often hear of only working 6 months of the year as a perk of the job, true, but you're also on an oil platform in the middle of nowhere for 6 months of the year. Think about that for a minute, you are literally spending HALF your life away from home and family working. Compare that to a Monday 9-5 job (46 x 37.5 = 1725hrs per year in work, 7011hrs out of work so around an 20%/80% split) Offshore (84hrs x 26wks = 2184hrs but then you also spend your 12hrs off time in work too so its a 50/50 split of 4368hrs/4368hrs) Quality of life when you look back, it's sh*t when you compare those figures, 20% of your time working a typical Monday 9-5 vs 50% of your time 'working' offshore. As to conditions, you are surrounded by 95% men, there's nothing to do, think prison system and it's not far off. Family life suffers aswell, it may not to begin with but you'll find a very high % of divorce rates offshore, the women just cant stick their men being away weeks and months at a time missing christmas, birthdays, wedding kiddies events etc etc
I still have to go offshore every now and again and I hate it with a passion, most people I go out with also hate it, countdown to chopper eve as soon as we arrive. My next trip away is to the ETAP on Friday, luckily just until the Monday tho. The money is pretty good though, it has to be, look at the pitfalls above with hours worked, time spent away from family and home etc but there's far more to life than £££.
I would say think pretty carefully if you want to go down this path. It's not all roses that many make it out to be. It's also a who you know not what you know industry, very very cliquey.
The above is just a flipside of the coin view, take from it what you will but as you can tell, I hate being stuck in the middle of the North Sea, should have stuck in at school and done something a lot more interesting
I work in the offshore oil and gas industry and it's pish being stuck offshore, 90% of the guys that work offshore hate it but are money trapped. You spend half your life on a rig in remote places, for the guys that say see the world, water looks like water, no matter where in the world you go, even when you do go to work on land, the locations are remote and in shi*hole countries, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Malaysia etc. Would you pay to go on holidays to these sh*tholes? No, most probably you wouldn't, there's no fun working in them either, believe me. Sticky hot or blisteringly cold and full of lazy, smelly, rude ill disciplined locals that at times you feel what you tell them goes in one ear and straight out the other without registering anything inbetween.
You often hear of only working 6 months of the year as a perk of the job, true, but you're also on an oil platform in the middle of nowhere for 6 months of the year. Think about that for a minute, you are literally spending HALF your life away from home and family working. Compare that to a Monday 9-5 job (46 x 37.5 = 1725hrs per year in work, 7011hrs out of work so around an 20%/80% split) Offshore (84hrs x 26wks = 2184hrs but then you also spend your 12hrs off time in work too so its a 50/50 split of 4368hrs/4368hrs) Quality of life when you look back, it's sh*t when you compare those figures, 20% of your time working a typical Monday 9-5 vs 50% of your time 'working' offshore. As to conditions, you are surrounded by 95% men, there's nothing to do, think prison system and it's not far off. Family life suffers aswell, it may not to begin with but you'll find a very high % of divorce rates offshore, the women just cant stick their men being away weeks and months at a time missing christmas, birthdays, wedding kiddies events etc etc
I still have to go offshore every now and again and I hate it with a passion, most people I go out with also hate it, countdown to chopper eve as soon as we arrive. My next trip away is to the ETAP on Friday, luckily just until the Monday tho. The money is pretty good though, it has to be, look at the pitfalls above with hours worked, time spent away from family and home etc but there's far more to life than £££.
I would say think pretty carefully if you want to go down this path. It's not all roses that many make it out to be. It's also a who you know not what you know industry, very very cliquey.
The above is just a flipside of the coin view, take from it what you will but as you can tell, I hate being stuck in the middle of the North Sea, should have stuck in at school and done something a lot more interesting
love the "water looks like water" quote
22 April 2013, 06:51 PM
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http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-sc...iness-21792466
An interesting article that states average salary in the North Sea is £64k and is likely to rise to £73k within the next year.
However, it then states that only 15% earn more than this so presumably 85% earn less. What a stupid frecking article. They should have posted median averages as contractors sway these figures.
An interesting article that states average salary in the North Sea is £64k and is likely to rise to £73k within the next year.
However, it then states that only 15% earn more than this so presumably 85% earn less. What a stupid frecking article. They should have posted median averages as contractors sway these figures.
People hear these figures thrown around and think everybody offshore makes a killing, When the reality is a bit different, even if I get a full years work (which hardly happens) I'll be just over the 50K mark.
Same thing goes for the so called skill shortage we hear so often about, The only reason there is a skill shortage is because they pay just about everybody off (apart from core crew) every winter then wonder why they can't get them back when needed.
I woulden't even advise anyone to put themself's through their courses to come into this game TBH.
22 April 2013, 07:29 PM
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http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-sc...iness-21792466
An interesting article that states average salary in the North Sea is £64k and is likely to rise to £73k within the next year.
However, it then states that only 15% earn more than this so presumably 85% earn less. What a stupid frecking article. They should have posted median averages as contractors sway these figures.
No idea what the average is (median) but Id say less than £50k pa. Roustabouts/Roughnecks/Stewards/Chefs/Scaffolders/Painters etc etc are all earning less than this. Lowest pay is Steward/Rousty and they are on around £30k.
Plenty money on offer though if you're prepared to work for it but as per my 1st post, for me anyway, there's far more to life than just £££
An interesting article that states average salary in the North Sea is £64k and is likely to rise to £73k within the next year.
However, it then states that only 15% earn more than this so presumably 85% earn less. What a stupid frecking article. They should have posted median averages as contractors sway these figures.
No idea what the average is (median) but Id say less than £50k pa. Roustabouts/Roughnecks/Stewards/Chefs/Scaffolders/Painters etc etc are all earning less than this. Lowest pay is Steward/Rousty and they are on around £30k.
Plenty money on offer though if you're prepared to work for it but as per my 1st post, for me anyway, there's far more to life than just £££
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22 April 2013, 07:41 PM
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Too many greedy ******* doing three weekers nowadays with the 2/3 thing, this has alot to do with it TBH.
22 April 2013, 09:01 PM
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Who are you working for and what platform, I can easily check pay scales. Even the contracted guys are only earning £175-£250 day rates and that still doesn't get you to £50k when you multiply by 2 on 2 off.
Happy to be proven wrong though if you can link me to a job advert with a £50k+ salary or a set of company pay scales.
22 April 2013, 09:14 PM
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£175-250 seems a bit low, I know Woodgroup are paying £280 a day for Riggers on Talisman platforms, which would give the just over 50 mark I mentioned earlier.
22 April 2013, 09:38 PM
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That's if you get work all year round. I have a few friends that are painters offshore, but it's adhoc work and nothing for the last few months of the year, £225pd last time I heard but ill give them a buzz for current rates. They only manage about 100 days away a year tho which puts their salaries in the mid £20k region.
Happy to be proven wrong though but £50k+ for your average offshore painter is not the norm. There just isn't the work all year round to make up all that.
On the £175 a day front, one of my chums has just started off as a rousty through agency, day rate is only £175pd so it's not all great salaries.
Still though, in comparison to similar jobs onshore, the pay is good
Happy to be proven wrong though but £50k+ for your average offshore painter is not the norm. There just isn't the work all year round to make up all that.
On the £175 a day front, one of my chums has just started off as a rousty through agency, day rate is only £175pd so it's not all great salaries.
Still though, in comparison to similar jobs onshore, the pay is good
22 April 2013, 09:58 PM
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Roustying is **** money, I spent five years with Transocean roustying/Roughnecking before I got into something else, drilling is probably the lowest paid and the hardest worked out of all the offshore sectors TBH.
What do you do anyway?
What do you do anyway?
22 April 2013, 10:30 PM
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I'm an aircraft engineer mate, flight engineer with the helis that stay offshore and taxi between rigs.
We have contractor guys that do it at £500-550 day rates and us salaried guys that do it getting basic + offshore bonus.
So not directly involved in the drilling or maintenance side of things but have a lot of friends and colleagues in the trades. Fortunately my job pays a decent amount of £££ onshore so I don't really need to stick at the offshore game. I can handle a few days at a time, week at most before I feel like jumping off the heli deck haha.
We have contractor guys that do it at £500-550 day rates and us salaried guys that do it getting basic + offshore bonus.
So not directly involved in the drilling or maintenance side of things but have a lot of friends and colleagues in the trades. Fortunately my job pays a decent amount of £££ onshore so I don't really need to stick at the offshore game. I can handle a few days at a time, week at most before I feel like jumping off the heli deck haha.
22 April 2013, 10:39 PM
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So who you with Scotia? Bristows? Im due away in the next week or so, my first trip back after a year in St Fergus gas terminal, can hardly say I'm jumping with ******* joy TBH...
23 April 2013, 06:45 AM
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And too many people working offshore waffle the biggest amount of poo about their earnings. I know for a fact salaried painters and scaffolders are on nowhere near £50k a year. Why would they pay a painter the same as a mech.
Who are you working for and what platform, I can easily check pay scales. Even the contracted guys are only earning £175-£250 day rates and that still doesn't get you to £50k when you multiply by 2 on 2 off.
Happy to be proven wrong though if you can link me to a job advert with a £50k+ salary or a set of company pay scales.
Who are you working for and what platform, I can easily check pay scales. Even the contracted guys are only earning £175-£250 day rates and that still doesn't get you to £50k when you multiply by 2 on 2 off.
Happy to be proven wrong though if you can link me to a job advert with a £50k+ salary or a set of company pay scales.
24 April 2013, 09:51 PM
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Well **** this. I've changed my mind about wanting this work already. Thanks for all the replies. I will reply individually when I get the chance.
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