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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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It was damning, to be fair.
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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What a vile man he was. Even Esther Rantzen has condemned him.
Pity she didn't do it when he was alive because to me most of the showbiz scene closed ranks and turned a blind eye and protected him.

Not surprising really because showbiz is riddled with sexual deviants.
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty but it would be amazing if these are all unfounded...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19887019
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty but it would be amazing if these are all unfounded...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19887019
Surprisingly condemning language.

"It's quite clear that he has perpetrated 4 decades of abuse"

Seems unlikely that all the claims are bogus but a police commander being so unequivocal about someone's guilt before even any inquiry has been concluded does seem to undermine the fundamental assumption of criminal law i.e. Innocent until proven guilty. Makes me a little uncomfortable to be honest.
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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it seems in the 70's and 80's it was quite acceptable to goose/fondle women whilst at work

now the PC plonker brigade are in charge this is no longer acceptable - and they have to be treated with respect

bet work was more fun in the old days
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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Not if you were being goosed, it wasnt.
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Sorry, if someone can keep quiet for 33 years about something that "may" have happened, I think they should have kept it quiet for another 66 years.

ITV sinks to new lows of credibilty...now one rung lower than BBC's Panorama

words fail me
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 08:44 PM
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I'm waiting for the Sun to run the headline;

"Freddie Starr Ate More Than Just My Hamster"


But i bet they don't.
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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I agree!

Trial by TV is never a good thing, and particularly reprehensible when the person concerned is no longer able to defend themselves.

What is a fact is that this guy did more for charity (literally raised 10s of millions for good causes) and made more of a positive difference in other people's lives than most.

The rest is speculation. If someone wanted to accuse him of a wrong doing they should have done it when he was alive!

did more for charity raised 10s of millions for a good cause well that's ok then please ban me i cant post with w*****s like you

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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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A bit sad when your own family want his headstone removed

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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtybarry
did more for charity raised 10s of millions for a good cause well that's ok then please ban me i cant post with w*****s like you
First of all, if you'd bothered to read my post properly you would have noted that I was contrasting fact from speculation. We know for a fact he raised x amount of money for charity. He is accused posthumously of being a paedophille. There has been no trail, not even a public inquiry has been completed. What we have is trail by the media, but of course, they are completely beyond reproach aren't they?!?! Phone hacking scandal anyone?!?!

That is NOT the same as saying that charitable donations should render one immune from prosecution for such a heinous crime or diminish its seriousness.

If the violation of the assumption of innocence until proven guilt and objection to people being vilified in the press without due process after their death makes me a w**ker then so be it.

This time, you get a public warning that you should be careful what you wish for, as the next time you bypass the swear filter and insult a moderator will be your last post on SN.

Consider yourself both wiser and warned!

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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
I'm waiting for the Sun to run the headline;

"Freddie Starr Ate More Than Just My Hamster"


But i bet they don't.
They'll run with 'Freddie Starr Ate My Beaver'.
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Swift Nick
A bit sad when your own family want his headstone removed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-19889974
Probably more to do with the extreme likelihood that it will be torn down by others. Seems other plaques / inscriptions / statues of him are being removed, possibly for similar reasons.

I'd not be completely shocked to see someone have a go and cracking the concrete his coffin is buried in, or perhaps trying to lift it out and smash / dump the block somewhere.
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 02:00 AM
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why would a 100+ people say nothing while he was alive?

yawn yawn who gives a **** really

its taking headlines away from that 5 year old girl who probably endured a horrible death poor thing
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Because it was assumed he had a "right" to act as he did. The red-top papers are still using the word legend when talking about him, and in an age when there was no internet, no mobile phones/cameras, that status allowed him to act with impunity. Plenty of women don't go to the Police after being raped, even today.
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
First of all, if you'd bothered to read my post properly you would have noted that I was contrasting fact from speculation. We know for a fact he raised x amount of money for charity. He is accused posthumously of being a paedophille. There has been no trail, not even a public inquiry has been completed. What we have is trail by the media, but of course, they are completely beyond reproach aren't they?!?! Phone hacking scandal anyone?!?!

That is NOT the same as saying that charitable donations should render one immune from prosecution for such a heinous crime or diminish its seriousness.

If the violation of the assumption of innocence until proven guilt and objection to people being vilified in the press without due process after their death makes me a w**ker then so be it.

This time, you get a public warning that you should be careful what you wish for, as the next time you bypass the swear filter and insult a moderator will be your last post on SN.

Consider yourself both wiser and warned!
No **** tells me what to do *****r

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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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Ooooo....... a fight in NSR.

How quaint.
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 05:45 PM
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No **** tells me what to do *****r
Then it gives me pleasure to be the first!
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtybarry
No **** tells me what to do *****r
Scoobynet Darwin award goes to...
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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Thinking about this,i just remembered back in the early 90's in secondary school in maths class,a couple lads used to grope this girl,they would sit behind her and reach forward over the desk to have a feel of her **** when teacher wasn't looking or went out the room.She never reported it and seemed to like it.
Some girls who hanged around with the boys would even give some of us BJ's at dinnertime or after school behind the Church.
I remember one girl wanking one of the lads off under the desk in IT class....
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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Thinking about this,i just remembered back in the early 90's in secondary school in maths class,a couple lads used to grope this girl,they would sit behind her and reach forward over the desk to have a feel of her **** when teacher wasn't looking or went out the room.She never reported it and seemed to like it.
Some girls who hanged around with the boys would even give some of us BJ's at dinnertime or after school behind the Church.
I remember one girl wanking one of the lads off under the desk in IT class....
Clearly I went to the wrong school
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DYK
Thinking about this,i just remembered back in the early 90's in secondary school in maths class,a couple lads used to grope this girl,they would sit behind her and reach forward over the desk to have a feel of her **** when teacher wasn't looking or went out the room.She never reported it and seemed to like it.
Some girls who hanged around with the boys would even give some of us BJ's at dinnertime or after school behind the Church.
I remember one girl wanking one of the lads off under the desk in IT class....
Ahhh, so there is a reason for your overt pervertedness.

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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Clearly I went to the wrong school


Oh i don't know about that,give it another 20 years and it might be on the news..
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DYK
Some girls who hanged around with the boys would even give some of us BJ's at dinnertime
I know school dinners are bad, but resorting to a BJ to get the taste out of your mouth is a bit wrong!

On a serious note though: it's alarming to hear that sexual activity of that nature in school was commonplace - I know, I know it's kids of the same age - it's not the same as an adult preying on them ..... but still: Whatever happened to kids getting a chance to be kids before they participate in being an adult. Maybe I'm just desperately naive or old fashioned!
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Ahhh, so there is a reason for your overt pervertedness.

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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Clearly I went to the wrong school
Me too

I'd have loved some hand action from Ms Sceffey Von Trampslut in biology
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
I know school dinners are bad, but resorting to a BJ to get the taste out of your mouth is a bit wrong!

On a serious note though: it's alarming to hear that sexual activity of that nature in school was commonplace - I know, I know it's kids of the same age - it's not the same as an adult preying on them ..... but still: Whatever happened to kids getting a chance to be kids before they participate in being an adult. Maybe I'm just desperately naive or old fashioned!
Lol thinking about it now,it does even surprise me what we got up to as teenagers.I remember a few of us being at a mates house and watching a **** vid with a few of the girls,this was when we were about 16 though,and one of my mates ended up ******** my other mates GF upstairs in bed,while he was downstairs watching a movie and eating pizza.A few of us had to go upstairs for a quick peek.Another time we came back from my mates 19th birthday party and we had an orgy with a few of the girls..
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Originally Posted by DYK
Lol thinking about it now,it does even surprise me what we got up to as teenagers.I remember a few of us being at a mates house and watching a **** vid with a few of the girls,this was when we were about 16 though,and one of my mates ended up ******** my other mates GF upstairs in bed,while he was downstairs watching a movie and eating pizza.A few of us had to go upstairs for a quick peek.Another time we came back from my mates 19th birthday party and we had an orgy with a few of the girls..
I went to an all boys school (not my choice)! ...... I hate you!!

In fact who says we ban DYK for being a lucky barsteward!?!?!
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Old Oct 10, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
I went to an all boys school (not my choice)! ...... I hate you!!

In fact who says we ban DYK for being a lucky barsteward!?!?!
NO NO NO you probably came out of school a more clever chap,not having the distraction of girls....
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Ahhh, so there is a reason for your overt pervertedness.

Originally Posted by DYK
...Another time we came back from my mates 19th birthday party and we had an orgy with a few of the girls..
^^^ Q.E.D


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