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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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BTW this country is far far from a 'dunghole' if it was as bad as you say then we wouldn't have an immigration issue
my god he's admitted whe have a immigration issue . the penny has dropped. the reason my friend is money , living in a dunghole with money is preferable to living in a dunhole skint is it not , simple question
would you rarther live in a boat making money from fishing and pirating living from one day to the next
or live in a 3bed house with all the mod con's and clothes and money in your pocket every week for doing nothing, answer truefully and now you know why we have a large somalian community in this country
Man I think you have some really major issues. Hopefully posting on here helps you work through them. You seem to live in a very dark place.
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Man I think you have some really major issues. Hopefully posting on here helps you work through them. You seem to live in a very dark place.
no chap ive seen the light , and you haven't answered the question
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
no chap ive seen the light , and you haven't answered the question

there was a question?
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Man I think you have some really major issues. Hopefully posting on here helps you work through them. You seem to live in a very dark place.
We do, but not out of choice.
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
there was a question?
by writing that above are you freely admiting you can't or didn't read what i typed
to save you the effort of re/reading the post, the choice is yours or thiers as the case may be just answer the question and make the choice,
live on a boat from day to day eating fish and pirating scratching a living or
bloody long walk / journey and the free house all the food you can eat cloths and MONEY in your pocket each week for doing **** ALL at the end of walk / journey ,
NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION WOULD YOU MAKE THE JOURNEY if you where in thier shoes/bear feet . now you begin to understand why they come here
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 06:53 AM
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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What you have written is totally unintelligible.

Use English and make sense, then I'll be able to offer an answer

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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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Made sense to me

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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
The Magna Carta, the Bill of Rights, Habeas Corpus and the Right of Trial by Jury all reflect the spirit of the New Testament; it was Christianity that set the scene for English Law and heavily influenced its tone. Increasingly, people seem to substitute the word 'religion' for Islam in the same way as others substitute 'Asian' for Pakistani; it's as if they're lacking the bòllocks to criticise a specific group so choose to hide behind some enormous and euphemistic and absurdly general tag.

The root cause of The Abu Saga is Mohammad and absolutely not the bedrock of this country, Jesus Christ. These men were not equivalent, their philosophies remain in many ways deeply opposing and these facts ought to be learnt by the ignorant whilst the atheist fundamentalists develop the courage to acknowledge the distinctions.
That would be one way of looking at this, however if we chose to go one step back-
Jesus was a Jew(ish) and Mohammadism (Islam) like Christianity is an Old Testament offshoot.
My thoughts on the primacy of the rule of law over the day to day blowings of popular opinion are (perhaps) ironically based on on the espoused thoughts of Menachim Begin, who was a) quite religious in his outlook, but b) pragmatic enough to realise that in the modern world, the rule of law must take precedence if we are all to rub along together.
Perhaps you are au-fait with his oeuvre?
I personally don't see Christianity as having any legal slant whatever, I think that cant is perhaps more the realm of proponents of sharia .
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 11:51 PM
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Somehow, it seems to be everybody else's fault that madscoob appears to be living on a boat and having to engage in criminal activity to scratch a living.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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He's Leaving!!!

That's Abu Hamza .... by the way .....
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 03:45 PM
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He still has to play his "I'm sick" card to avoid deportation.

Do we still get lumbered with his entourage or can we get shot of them too?
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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Prison van direct to Lakenheath or Mildenhall - gone

Job done.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
Prison van direct to Lakenheath or Mildenhall - gone

Job done.


Snoopy heads all round.

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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mouser
He still has to play his "I'm sick" card to avoid deportation.

Do we still get lumbered with his entourage or can we get shot of them too?
Nope. Denied.
The plane awaits at Mildenhall apparently. On telly now.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 10:33 PM
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Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cster
That would be one way of looking at this, however if we chose to go one step back-
Jesus was a Jew(ish) and Mohammadism (Islam) like Christianity is an Old Testament offshoot.
My thoughts on the primacy of the rule of law over the day to day blowings of popular opinion are (perhaps) ironically based on on the espoused thoughts of Menachim Begin, who was a) quite religious in his outlook, but b) pragmatic enough to realise that in the modern world, the rule of law must take precedence if we are all to rub along together.
Perhaps you are au-fait with his oeuvre?
I personally don't see Christianity as having any legal slant whatever, I think that cant is perhaps more the realm of proponents of sharia .
I don't know where to start in response to this post; I think it's the Begin reference that's thrown me. Begin? What the **** does Begin have to do with anything?
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamo
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
He can f*ck off and die for all i care.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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Out of interest.......what will his extended family do? move to the USA to live on their benefit system?

Just curious


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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Out of interest.......what will his extended family do? move to the USA to live on their benefit system?

Just curious


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What do you think?
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 02:15 AM
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Gone

Charter flight out of Mildnehall according to the press

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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 03:01 AM
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On a Gulfstream operated by the CIA apparently. "Justice Prisoner and Alien Transportation Systems (JPATS), managed by the U.S. Marshals Service. JPATS is responsible for moving prisoners and non-US citizen criminals around and has its own fleet of aircraft, as well as frequently leasing others. N596GA is also said to have been used in the CIA's programme of extraordinary rendition against terrorist subjects."

Interestingly, it turned off it's transponders after crossing the Irish coast, so that's about the last record of it on publicly available systems. So who knows where it's going?
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I don't know where to start in response to this post; I think it's the Begin reference that's thrown me. Begin? What the **** does Begin have to do with anything?
I happened to be reading his biography - not on the proscribed list is it?
As for the "Christianity being the bedrock" of this country idea - well I suppose we are all entitled to our articles of faith. On my reading, the New Testament seems pretty light on legal advice - so not too sure about your Bill of Rights and Trial by Jury viewpoint. Perhaps they are listed in the 10 commandments
Anyway, Abs has gone to the Land of the Free now.
Be interesting to see if their lawyers are as good as ours at working the system - some how I doubt they will even come close.

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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 07:44 AM
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Off to America i am...
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cster
I happened to be reading his biography - not on the proscribed list is it?


Originally Posted by cster
As for the "Christianity being the bedrock" of this country idea - well I suppose we are all entitled to our articles of faith. On my reading, the New Testament seems pretty light on legal advice - so not too sure about your Bill of Rights and Trial by Jury viewpoint. Perhaps they are listed in the 10 commandments
It's not an article of faith, it's matter of fact. To deny it is to deny history.
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DYK


Off to America i am...


Good riddance to him, his mates and their families
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Thank **** for that.... Only taken 10yrs+
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor



It's not an article of faith, it's matter of fact. To deny it is to deny history.
It is quite clearly a matter of opinion.
As far as I can see, it is something that can be discussed..
If you say it is not up for discussion, then ipso facto - for you it must be an article of faith - or fact as you like to call it.
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