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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:25 PM
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no thanks DL lol, yes he works for thorntons chocolates.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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I'm not interested in arguing. I'm concerned that my response is now anything but typical. In fact, my reserved - benefit of the doubt - approach is entirely the minority view in our society, as evidenced by the input you have received in your thread thus far.

My reason for posting, is for fear of you heavily impacting on the life of another person simply because you have subscribed to years of sensationalist journalism - albeit, as an unwitting victim.

My reason for posting is because I want you to stop for a moment and run some basic logic and maths questions before reporting what would be viewed as a very serious offence. Specifically, there is circa 60M people living in this country in relative harmony and we have one of the lowest rates of gun crime anywhere in the world.

Keeping that in mind, what do you suppose the ratio of people mucking about in front of their mirror with a fake/model/toy guy or knives or other weapon is to the number of people doing so with a real weapon immediately before going on a rampage through the town centre?

10,000:1? 100,000:1? 1M:1? 10M:1? 100M:1? Statistically speaking, how likely is it? Taking account of all the [admittedly weird people] pissing around in front of mirrors in their own homes, do you really consider one gun rampage in the UK every, what, 5-10 years on average to be anything other than purely mathematically inevitable in a population of some 60M people.

You might hold the view that IF he is a danger and you pre-empt his acts then you have saved a great many lives. While that might be true on this occasion, you could never prevent said rampages from happening every now and again. However, in order to attempt to prevent it you'd need every do-gooding nosey ******* in the country stomping all over everybody else's civil liberties in a state of constant presumption of guilt. The damage to society from that is likely to be far higher than a shooting every decade or so.

Despite my sharp tone, I hold no actual ill feeling towards you. I simply hope you take a moment to look beyond your own fence and consider how your actions might impact on the lives of other [mathematically speaking] innocent people.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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UHH I stopped myself for a whole day, I have still done nothing, are you stupid?
No, but you've had a day to think about it and still can't figure out that this does not merit your involvement. Who's stupid?

If you are really concerned select a time when your family are not at home and ring his doorbell to chat to him. Last I knew, even nutter killers aren't in the habit of answering their door with machine guns. Raise what you saw with him and see how he reacts. If he laughs it off and gives a genuine explanation invite him round for beers some time and forget about it. If he is shifty end the conversation as politely as possible and jump into your car [before he can run up to get a gun to shoot you ] and drive immediately to a police station.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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...he works for thorntons chocolates.
Mystery solved...

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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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I understand your point saxo boi, but if he is reported the police force wont just send the armed response unit round to smash the door in unless shots have been fired.

The police will more then likely go n knock on the door and have a chat. The suslect might have a license for them or even be an air gun. Without credible evidence the police wont go n smash the door in mate.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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Buy a fake gun and copy him. When he invites you over to compare then you can see if it's real and take the required action....
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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The police will more then likely go n knock on the door and have a chat.
You don't work with the police or deal with them in any way do you?

I don't hold it against you Bean, I used to think that is the way they work too.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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The police won't do anything. They'll listen to you, possibly call back and ask you for more details and leave it at that.

Police don't knock the door down of every report of a possible firearm in someone's house.

Now if he was walking around with said firearm thing in public it would be a different scenario.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 11:03 PM
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Several years ago at Halloween I attended a party at a mates house, someone turned up dressed as a pirate complete with a 3ft long plastic childs toy sword. After much alcohol was consumed, several of us were in the back garden of my mates house, chatting and having a bit of a laugh. Someone saw my mate waving his plastic sword about and called the police out, telling them there was a man in the back garden waving a machete. Had they advised he was dressed as a pirate, and had his face painted, it may not have been taken so seriously, but the police did turn out, in considerable numbers. They took it in good humour, but were were advised that our actions had caused alarm to a member of the public and we were requested to leave the sword in-doors.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
You don't work with the police or deal with them in any way do you?

I don't hold it against you Bean, I used to think that is the way they work too.
I work along side them yes mate.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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Do does my wife and her story's are very different.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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but were were advised that our actions had caused alarm to a member of the public
That's enough for a conviction btw.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 11:20 PM
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Prob different attitudes in different constubularies mate. If the suspect is knowen to have firearms in their possesion then yea, they would prob make use of the big red key. But mr joe bloggs calling up saying my neighbour has a machine gun i think and hes posing in front of the mirror is still a cause of concern so the suspect would prob gget put under survilance at the most until credible evidence is found to give the force enough reason to do a raid. Thats how ive seen it happen mate but can vary at all times
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
This is utterly ridiculous IMHO. The guy is in the privacy [if there is such a thing] of his own house and may very well be posing for a silly facebook profile pic with a plastic gun.

You now want to involve the police in his life with no other evidence or reason to be suspicious.

No offence, but you are everything that is wrong with this country IMHO. You don't stop for a second to think how your actions could affect this persons life and give zero benefit of the doubt. Unreal.
Isn't this thread evidence that he has taken a second to think?
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 12:05 AM
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Yeah, I'll give you that
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by chris666
Is this the guy ?

Ah not another "Russell Brand plays COD" picture, who is this dude?!
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 06:48 AM
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Lol, have none of you ever been to the gym posed in the mirror, danced around the bedroom with a hair brush singing a song, shadow boxed, admired the size of your toddger or what a handsome bar steward you are, or given it the you talking to me in the mirror.

This bloke may or may not be "wierd" maybe he is shy, maybe he doesn't like you or his neighbours.

What would the police think if i said to them this guy across the road from me is always on his computer looking at **** and posting stuff all over the internet, he has a couple of young kids and i saw him taking photos of them.

Now i'm sorry to suggest something like that but you get my drift.

Live and let live the consiquences don't bare thinking about.

The police are used to dealing with the scum of the earth, most people think they are like dixon of dock green until they have any dealings with them, most of the cops that go door bashing are little more than thugs, and have all manner of control/ inferiority complexes and issues, and i'm sure they all posed in the mirror waving their trunchion at one time or another.

I suggest if it disturbs you so much keep an eye on the guy, but as a rule of thumb, a nutter is not going to stand in front of the mirror checking out his look before he goes an pops 20 people.
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 04:08 PM
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I think you are well within your rights to go to the coppers and ask whether it is a real gun that he was holding and if it is, is he licenced to own it.

Someone acting in a strange manner while holding a gun deserves to be checked if only for your own safety and peace of mind.

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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 06:05 PM
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I had a word with a neighbour that I am friends with, and he thinks he collects de activated guns, so its probably ok.Mind if he comes running out of the house semi naked holding his weapon I may change my mind
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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as long as he doesn't discharge it, you should be fine
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
as long as he doesn't discharge it, you should be fine
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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Jamo, did you take a ride on the M4 recently in a bus with someone smoking an electronic cigarette?

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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umm bit of difference...



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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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The bottom ones the most lethal though.....
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamo
umm bit of difference...
Not really. The principal is the same.

Brain washed into thinking everyone's either a murderer or a terrorist so you'll accept big brother to watch over you and protect you from all that is evil.

Only, the only evil thing IS big brother! Just watch the next intrusive law to come out and you'll here those famous words "to help prevent terrorism..."

Yeah right!
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Boro
Not really. The principal is the same.

Brain washed into thinking everyone's either a murderer or a terrorist so you'll accept big brother to watch over you and protect you from all that is evil.

Only, the only evil thing IS big brother! Just watch the next intrusive law to come out and you'll here those famous words "to help prevent terrorism..."

Yeah right!
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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I am gobsmacked that if you saw a bloke in a bedroom window with one of these in his arms:



not even part of you would consider it was real and that maybe it was slightly suspicious.

oh well, id rather be tagged as big brother or OTT or anything if I question why he has one.

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamo
I am gobsmacked that if you saw a bloke in a bedroom window with one of these in his arms:



not even part of you would consider it was real and that maybe it was slightly suspicious.

oh well, id rather be tagged as big brother or OTT or anything if I question why he has one.

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Not really, considering I was in the garden with this a few weeks back...



Luckily, I know my neighbours, we talk to each other. I know, hard to believe, just like the olden days when you could go out with your door open and your neighbours would look out for you. These days, everyone looks out for themselves.
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tarmac terror
Several years ago at Halloween I attended a party at a mates house, someone turned up dressed as a pirate complete with a 3ft long plastic childs toy sword. After much alcohol was consumed, several of us were in the back garden of my mates house, chatting and having a bit of a laugh. Someone saw my mate waving his plastic sword about and called the police out, telling them there was a man in the back garden waving a machete. Had they advised he was dressed as a pirate, and had his face painted, it may not have been taken so seriously, but the police did turn out, in considerable numbers. They took it in good humour, but were were advised that our actions had caused alarm to a member of the public and we were requested to leave the sword in-doors.

Some people need to mind their own business, it's not like he was running down the road with the thing is it!!
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Boro
Not really, considering I was in the garden with this a few weeks back...



Luckily, I know my neighbours, we talk to each other. I know, hard to believe, just like the olden days when you could go out with your door open and your neighbours would look out for you. These days, everyone looks out for themselves.
I expected you to be much younger.
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