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Old 10 May 2012, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by b16msu265
Has anyone got Andy Forrests number? The one on the web does not seem to go through

You will be very lucky to get Andy on the phone! He wont answer when mapping


Best to get in touch by email.
Old 10 May 2012, 10:17 PM
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Cheers guys,
Emailed the sales team and hope to get a reply by next week. The good thing with the lagg is that it's not always in boost so it seems to be drinking less but when I took it to the pod people where leaving me to about 50 and then by by the boost is mad and it holds all the way till 8k
Hope the billet will spool quicker and keep the top end aswell
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Originally Posted by b16msu265
Cheers guys,
Emailed the sales team and hope to get a reply by next week. The good thing with the lagg is that it's not always in boost so it seems to be drinking less but when I took it to the pod people where leaving me to about 50 and then by by the boost is mad and it holds all the way till 8k
Hope the billet will spool quicker and keep the top end aswell
is yours an af 20g? what engine/spec? some say laggy, others say not laggy.im going down the 20g route on my type r but fail to see that it could be really laggy as the gearing is so short and the revs are always high anyway....
Old 10 May 2012, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 99greenwagon
is yours an af 20g? what engine/spec? some say laggy, others say not laggy.im going down the 20g route on my type r but fail to see that it could be really laggy as the gearing is so short and the revs are always high anyway....
That's my thought with my Type R
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Originally Posted by b16msu265
Cheers guys,
Emailed the sales team and hope to get a reply by next week. The good thing with the lagg is that it's not always in boost so it seems to be drinking less but when I took it to the pod people where leaving me to about 50 and then by by the boost is mad and it holds all the way till 8k
Hope the billet will spool quicker and keep the top end aswell
What specs of your engine,are you running FMIC,what injectors are you running?

Can you please post the RR graph

On 2.0L STi should spool well,on Santa pod all depends on tyres and launch technique plus from alignment setup.


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Old 11 May 2012, 07:15 AM
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Cant the lagg be sorted with Havery's up pipe? Mine isnt laggy at all but thats because im on 2.5l but for 2.0l engines im sure Harvey has purpose designed up pipe to suit TD05 20G
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Well here goes
2004 Sti type uk 2.0l
Af td05 20g with Forge actuator (blue spring for more psi)
Tubular Equal length headers bult in up pipe
Pfr7b NGK
jap speed turbo back exhaust
Jap speed fmic
Jap speed cold air induction kit
Wrx blue injectors flowed to 800-840cc
Light weight pulleys
Fuel lab 3 port pressure reg
Pro drive 3 port boost
Parallel fuel rails
And a re map
I'v heard that Harvey smiths do a great up pipe but then I have to put the standard headers back on.
Jura if I knew how to do that I would or pm me how to put pics up of the graph. Cheers green wagon
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With the 2.5 it spools a lot quicker and the torque is better
Old 11 May 2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by b16msu265
Well here goes
2004 Sti type uk 2.0l
Af td05 20g with Forge actuator (blue spring for more psi)
Tubular Equal length headers bult in up pipe
Pfr7b NGK
jap speed turbo back exhaust
Jap speed fmic
Jap speed cold air induction kit
Wrx blue injectors flowed to 800-840cc
Light weight pulleys
Fuel lab 3 port pressure reg
Pro drive 3 port boost
Parallel fuel rails
And a re map
I'v heard that Harvey smiths do a great up pipe but then I have to put the standard headers back on.
Jura if I knew how to do that I would or pm me how to put pics up of the graph. Cheers green wagon


great result.
Old 11 May 2012, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by b16msu265
Well here goes
2004 Sti type uk 2.0l
Af td05 20g with Forge actuator (blue spring for more psi)
Tubular Equal length headers bult in up pipe
Pfr7b NGK
jap speed turbo back exhaust
Jap speed fmic
Jap speed cold air induction kit
Wrx blue injectors flowed to 800-840cc
Light weight pulleys
Fuel lab 3 port pressure reg
Pro drive 3 port boost
Parallel fuel rails
And a re map
I'v heard that Harvey smiths do a great up pipe but then I have to put the standard headers back on.
Jura if I knew how to do that I would or pm me how to put pics up of the graph. Cheers green wagon

Hi there

I would say with OEM ported headers and Harvey up pipe you can gain spool,not sure about the cold air feed induction kits,i would go with again as i said before with RCM

Tubular headers are recommended above 400bhp,but still think depends on turbo,on T you will gain with tubular headers,on 20G think you can loose like gain with Tubular headers

About the posting the RR results,sign up on Photobucket or Imageshack and use the IMG code,just click on him and this will be copied,and you can use CTRL+V( or right click on your mouse/track pad and select the Paste)

Please use this IMG code like in this picture




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Old 11 May 2012, 07:25 PM
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Tubular Equal length headers bult in up pipe
This is most likely your problem area. A lot of people just do not understand the importance of the right headers and uppipe matched to the turbo in use. I am yet to see a single piece header and uppipe that is well designed in terms of gas flow and reliability because the flexi joints go at some point.
Ported headers and matched uppipe will outperform the single piece assembly I believe you have. An alternative would be GT2 Spec 2 type header set with my "trick" 3 bolt uppipe but this is the more expensive option.
Email me harveysmith1@btopenworld.com if you want more information.
Old 11 May 2012, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by harvey
This is most likely your problem area. A lot of people just do not understand the importance of the right headers and uppipe matched to the turbo in use. I am yet to see a single piece header and uppipe that is well designed in terms of gas flow and reliability because the flexi joints go at some point.
Ported headers and matched uppipe will outperform the single piece assembly I believe you have. An alternative would be GT2 Spec 2 type header set with my "trick" 3 bolt uppipe but this is the more expensive option.
Email me harveysmith1@btopenworld.com if you want more information.


glad to see your feeling better harvey.
Old 11 May 2012, 08:10 PM
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Welcome back harvey
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Welcome back u had your family and a lot of us worried. I might put my standard headers back on with one of your famous up pipes?
Old 13 May 2012, 10:17 AM
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Thanks guys. I am making progress but it is slow so it could take some time to be firing on all 12 cylinders but I am now back in the saddle. I am humbled by all the well wishes which are very much appreciated.
I have been very well supported by my Wife Dawn who has kept box moving running and I am gradually increasing what I am doing every day but it is a slow process.

Originally Posted by b16msu265
Welcome back u had your family and a lot of us worried. I might put my standard headers back on with one of your famous up pipes?
The performance you get is substantially influenced by the uppipe and headers you run, far more than most people appreciate and that decision is influenced by the turbo you are using along with other mods. I actually have a range of 3 different uppipes for different applications and within that range there are actually 8 options or more so matching the right turbo, right modifications and right header/uppipe combination can be the difference between a poor spooling dog and a crisp responsive joy to drive.

Given the choice of a TD05-06-20G or SC42 (bearing in mind I make TD05 20G) then the SC42 wins hands down but again it is not a clear decision because the SC42 may be around £1,500 or something similar whereas a good, new, 20G from me is £850. This means it is really down to what you want to achieve and spend.
When you want to go through this in more detail drop me an email per signature and include your phone number.
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