Does it normally rain so much during a drought?
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Yep especially as L.A is bordering on being a desert.
A few years ago I saw a programme on t.v where an old timer was explaining how his job was to maintain channels to aid water run off. He said this was done in all areas to maximise water collection in to reservoirs. He would clean the channels, remove obstruction and generally ensure that plenty of rain water was channelled in to the reservoir. Furthermore rivers were regularly dredged to increase capacity and minimise flooding. Post privatisation he was made redundant and virtually all the up keep discontinued.
It seems that making big profits is now the order of the day and paying dividends to shareholders. Especially as some of the water utilities are foreign owned.
A few years ago I saw a programme on t.v where an old timer was explaining how his job was to maintain channels to aid water run off. He said this was done in all areas to maximise water collection in to reservoirs. He would clean the channels, remove obstruction and generally ensure that plenty of rain water was channelled in to the reservoir. Furthermore rivers were regularly dredged to increase capacity and minimise flooding. Post privatisation he was made redundant and virtually all the up keep discontinued.
It seems that making big profits is now the order of the day and paying dividends to shareholders. Especially as some of the water utilities are foreign owned.
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http://www.naturalnews.com/029286_ra...ion_water.html
The mind truly boggles. America: Land of the... bend over and take it, by the looks of things.
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Everyone keeps saying in this side of the country- "Argh! Isn't it terrible out there? Cold and wet! Mind you, we do need a lot of rain. We really do." Well, the Rainmaker has heard their wish. More torrential rain is to bless us all weekend, wayhay. 
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I actually didn't believe you when I read this, but a very quick search comes up with:
http://www.naturalnews.com/029286_ra...ion_water.html
The mind truly boggles. America: Land of the... bend over and take it, by the looks of things.
http://www.naturalnews.com/029286_ra...ion_water.html
The mind truly boggles. America: Land of the... bend over and take it, by the looks of things.
It is to prevent adverse harm to the water cycle. Water conservation in the West is a massive issue, more so than in Australia.
It isn't enforced on private premises.
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It is not as it seems. The law was set because people with masses of land were literally building there own dams, this in turn caused problems with the water table and rain fall hundreds of miles away.
It is to prevent adverse harm to the water cycle. Water conservation in the West is a massive issue, more so than in Australia.
It isn't enforced on private premises.
It is to prevent adverse harm to the water cycle. Water conservation in the West is a massive issue, more so than in Australia.
It isn't enforced on private premises.
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A law stopping private engineered landscapes to capture and redirect water sound ridiculous to us, but in Colorado, for instance, they get nearly zero rain water, the rest (upstream flows) is diverted to people and big companies.
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We are talking arid and semi arid land. We in the UK have no concept for these laws.
A law stopping private engineered landscapes to capture and redirect water sound ridiculous to us, but in Colorado, for instance, they get nearly zero rain water, the rest (upstream flows) is diverted to people and big companies.
A law stopping private engineered landscapes to capture and redirect water sound ridiculous to us, but in Colorado, for instance, they get nearly zero rain water, the rest (upstream flows) is diverted to people and big companies.
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England and Wales have much more legislation on water then America, for instance damming up a stream on property to use for water irrigation (farms and industrial etc) will not adversely affect river flow. Compulsory purchase orders are used to stop such activities.
It is a desert, of course they are going to manage water proactively.
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No it isn't. It is a law still relevant to lot's of states to allow the flow of water and natural water cycle.
England and Wales have much more legislation on water then America, for instance damming up a stream on property to use for water irrigation (farms and industrial etc) will not adversely affect river flow. Compulsory purchase orders are used to stop such activities.
It is a desert, of course they are going to manage water proactively.
England and Wales have much more legislation on water then America, for instance damming up a stream on property to use for water irrigation (farms and industrial etc) will not adversely affect river flow. Compulsory purchase orders are used to stop such activities.
It is a desert, of course they are going to manage water proactively.
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Water rights?
Private property, in the UK, you do not own anything above or below you, else most of Londoners would have a stake in Heathrow airport and the UG/TFL.
Why are you finding it hard that a law exists in certain parts of the US, that benefits the masses?
Private property, in the UK, you do not own anything above or below you, else most of Londoners would have a stake in Heathrow airport and the UG/TFL.
Why are you finding it hard that a law exists in certain parts of the US, that benefits the masses?
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Yep water rights. In some states in the US somebody else can own the rain which falls on your property.
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The law is set up to allow natural water cycle between arid lands.
I am out.
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So they called it a "drought" at a certain point in time and instigated a hosepipe ban as levels were at a certain capacity.
Since then it appears to have rained almost non stop and although I understand it wouldn't fully replenish the reservoirs etc, I'm pretty certain I heard the drought conditions/ban etc(?) are likely to extend all the way to December.
Wouldn't this therefore indicate that the hosepipe ban/drought was called far too late?
Since then it appears to have rained almost non stop and although I understand it wouldn't fully replenish the reservoirs etc, I'm pretty certain I heard the drought conditions/ban etc(?) are likely to extend all the way to December.
Wouldn't this therefore indicate that the hosepipe ban/drought was called far too late?
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So they called it a "drought" at a certain point in time and instigated a hosepipe ban as levels were at a certain capacity.
Since then it appears to have rained almost non stop and although I understand it wouldn't fully replenish the reservoirs etc, I'm pretty certain I heard the drought conditions/ban etc(?) are likely to extend all the way to December.
Wouldn't this therefore indicate that the hosepipe ban/drought was called far too late?
Since then it appears to have rained almost non stop and although I understand it wouldn't fully replenish the reservoirs etc, I'm pretty certain I heard the drought conditions/ban etc(?) are likely to extend all the way to December.
Wouldn't this therefore indicate that the hosepipe ban/drought was called far too late?
To me it indicates infrastructure has not been put into place to meet the demand from a increasing population and to make the best use of the rain that does fall. The lack of sustainable drainage is something that should have been implemented 15-20 years ago.
For example every single building and road built on greenfield land in that period is dumping all of its rainwater into a storm drain instead of into the water table....Thats most of this April's rainwater straight out to sea.
Anyhoo, I'm liking this weather....I've just overseeded the lawns, so this sun/rain/sun/rain is ideal for new lawns
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To me it indicates infrastructure has not been put into place to meet the demand from a increasing population and to make the best use of the rain that does fall. The lack of sustainable drainage is something that should have been implemented 15-20 years ago.
For example every single building and road built on greenfield land in that period is dumping all of its rainwater into a storm drain instead of into the water table....Thats most of this April's rainwater straight out to sea.
Anyhoo, I'm liking this weather....I've just overseeded the lawns, so this sun/rain/sun/rain is ideal for new lawns
For example every single building and road built on greenfield land in that period is dumping all of its rainwater into a storm drain instead of into the water table....Thats most of this April's rainwater straight out to sea.
Anyhoo, I'm liking this weather....I've just overseeded the lawns, so this sun/rain/sun/rain is ideal for new lawns
April showers yes but this is becoming a monsoon!
Still you never know the depression may move South (and slightly West
) and give some rain to our European neighbours. Is this rain as a result of the North Atlantic drift?
