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Old 18 January 2012, 08:38 PM
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The Millers is 100% synthetic, a lot of the 'fully' synthetic oils only contain a small percentage of synthetic components. Millers is composed of a triple ester formula which is more advanced than cheaper oils.

BENEFITS: • Fully synthetic oils provide many outstanding performance benefits over conventional mineral oil. • By utilising both polyalphaolefins (PAO) and ester synthetics specially selected to minimise the amount of polymer used, the lubricant film provided is more resistant to ‘shear’ and viscosity loss in highly stress areas. Full synthetic oil provides: • Load carrying capacity many times that of mineral oil. • High film strength for ultimate protection. • Outstanding cold flow properties for reduced wear at start up excellent thermal stability and oxidation resistance. • The synergistic blend of three esters gives improved lubricity, reducing friction and enhancing the oils performance. • CFS 10w40 additive technology is formulated to protect high revving competition engines from modern 16-valve twin OHC to older pushrod OHV engines. PERFORMANCE PROFILE: • Manufactured to far exceed the requirements of API SL/CF and ACEA A3/B4. • For fast road use or track days in engines where a 5w40 is normally specified. • Suitable for operating at 125°C with peak temperatures up to 150°C. TYPICAL CHARACTERISTICS: SAE Viscosity Grade ... 10w40 Specific Gravity @ 15°C ... 0.867 Kinematic Viscosity @ 100°C ... 15.6cSt Kinematic Viscosity @ 40°C ... 90cSt Viscosity Index ... 185 Pour Point °C ... -25 Flashpoint °C ... 210 Cold Crank Viscosity @ -25°C ... 7,000cP
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Originally Posted by oilman
You're right, it is due to temps, I just try to keep things simple and so many people that we deal with have absolutely no idea how hot their oil is getting. If someone lets me know oil temps, I base my answers on that. I did say if the car is getting tracked a 10w-50 would be better, a 5w-40 for road use and that is due to temps.

If an oil is made to be thin when cold and thick when hot, a lot of additives are needed. The action of the engine cuts (shears) the polymers used and the viscosity gap is reduced, ie a 5w-50 is likely to become a 5w-40 or 10w-40 quite quickly, same with a 10w-60. The most stable oils have a small viscosity gap, so if a car wants a SAE50 when hot, I'd tend to recommend a 10w-50 for mainly road use and a 15w-50 if it's mainly a track car.

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Thanks Tim, sorry to have over complicated your explanation
Old 19 January 2012, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by beastturbo
Forget that iv just seen how much cheaper can get it on the link oilman has given

Defo thinking do myself again!!

Plus are standard filters ok or upgraded such as k n .... Or are they a waste of money which I'm thinking
The Millers is spot on stuff, but the Shell that would be used in a £100 service would probably be the HX7, which isn't in the same league as the Millers CFS. The Shell Helix Ultra, which might be used, is a pretty good oil, but stilll not as good as the Millers.

All filters do is stop large bits of debris, so as long as they filter enough and have a high enough flow rate, they are fine for the car. The UFI and Mahle ones we have meet or exceed the OEM requirements. The K&N ones are popular as well, for a performance filter they are well priced.

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Originally Posted by oilman
You're right, it is due to temps, I just try to keep things simple and so many people that we deal with have absolutely no idea how hot their oil is getting. If someone lets me know oil temps, I base my answers on that. I did say if the car is getting tracked a 10w-50 would be better, a 5w-40 for road use and that is due to temps.

If an oil is made to be thin when cold and thick when hot, a lot of additives are needed. The action of the engine cuts (shears) the polymers used and the viscosity gap is reduced, ie a 5w-50 is likely to become a 5w-40 or 10w-40 quite quickly, same with a 10w-60. The most stable oils have a small viscosity gap, so if a car wants a SAE50 when hot, I'd tend to recommend a 10w-50 for mainly road use and a 15w-50 if it's mainly a track car.

Cheers

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Time to bump an old quote

My 95 classic runs at 90 degrees oil temp at moderate cruise with a 10/40 oil running 340 bhp

Time to go to 10/50 ?? I'm noticing at 90 degrees plus oil pressure dropping at idle and cruise by about 1/4 bar
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Hi

In a 340bhp classic, a 10w-50 is probably a sensible option.

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Cheers bud
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opie oils recomended me 5w\40 fully synth go on ther website it does it all for you
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Hi

The website is useful, but it only recommends oils for standard and lightly modified cars.

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