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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 09:49 AM
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I see you managed to tear yourself away from your sheep



Is it in the loft chained to your gimp

I had one called chicken george, but it ran away
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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FPMSL I hope she takes it all the way to the High Court. Far too many sensitive souls in the world these days, get over it ffs

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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ChefDude
I wondered that myself, as you do get multi racial dolls in other forms

however, what constitutes as offensive ranges from the objective to the subjective. just because you find something inoffensive, does that nullify the feelings of someone else ?

i would have taken the doll out of view and apologised. life's too short and i don't have the spare time to go to court to defend my principles.
What about if I find you offensive? Pls keep away from your windows.

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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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I do find things like Take That dolls very offensive
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Are we all really that stupid on this forum to think that this was not a deliberate attempt to offend the "black" neighbours with whom they have a" history of difficulties".
Even if it was, just don't look at the window what on earth is offensive about it anyway, it's just a doll ffs. How is that only "black" people take offence to stuff like this ... when was the last time you heard of a "white" person being offended by something similar. Just playing the race card imho. Crazy world

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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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The neighbour should have to fill out this form

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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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To be honest in the current climate, putting a Golliwog in your window is stupid, it wasnt a mistake, it was designed to offend, the neighbours should have just ignored it as its just a bit tragic.
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Are we all really that stupid on this forum to think that this was not a deliberate attempt to offend the "black" neighbours with whom they have a" history of difficulties".

Now i have no problems with golliwog dolls, but the black and white minstrel type depiction of black people was shall we just for the purpose of discussion settle for the term "less than flattering" and did nothing for black people other than make them appear stupid.

And while i have no time for pc bull crap i can see how the neighbours might take offence and want to teach them a lesson for trying to be smart *****.

Oh and i don't care what people call me i'm old school and i can usually throw insults and or punches with the best of them.

Names are just words and i have no problem calling a spade a spade, wog or nig nog as jim davidson and many other very funny comics of that time used to, and me and my father ( who was black fyi) used to cry with laughter at this stuff, and we never missed an episode of love thy neighbour or rising damp.
Old school you may be, but do you actually remember watching the Black White Minstrel show.

It was a musical depiction of singers made up as blacks and also whites playing musical instrumemts and singing. They did this very well and were highly entertaining. It was a very popular show at the time enjoying very high ratings. They were the George Mitchell Singers.

There were of course the embryo PC Plonkers at the time who tried to make a fuss about it but popular demand supported the show which continued for a long time. An attempt at reproducing the show without blacked up characters failed and it came back in its original form.

There was no possible way in which it made black people look in anyway stupid as you say.

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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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I agree, Les.

I wish that the shows were repeated though I doubt that the BBC would have the cojones to show it...
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 05:52 PM
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Les is right, it was just a music and dancing show and did not depict black people as stupid in any way. Just good old fashioned entertainment.

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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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Putting a Golly in a window when you have neighbours of colour is pretty bloody rude to be honest. Why not print a sign with 'w0g on it and put that up too? Surely nobody would be offended?
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 10:27 PM
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We are all entitled to our opinions, and i have long since given up trying to enlighten people on the finer nuances of subtle subconcious (sp) racism.

I won't preach to the deaf or attempt to shine light into the eyes of a blind man.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Will
I had one when I was a kid. I called Him ******! My mum told me that I had to keep it in the loft as it offended loads of people!! I for the life of me don't know why it offended anyone???





As a kid our family cat was jet black. Its name? Sambo
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
We are all entitled to our opinions, and i have long since given up trying to enlighten people on the finer nuances of subtle subconcious (sp) racism.

I won't preach to the deaf or attempt to shine light into the eyes of a blind man.
How disappointing.

I was expecting you to enlighten us about the way in which the Black and White Minstrel Show was offensive and/or demeaning to black people.

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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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This sums up the issue of causing offense nicely IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnSBy...eature=related

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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 02:23 PM
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I have one of these hanging in the window of the downstairs toilet, he's been hanging in various windows of our last 3 houses, I wonder how many little ***** would take offence

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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
This sums up the issue of causing offense nicely IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnSBy...eature=related
The other voice is Christopher Hitchens which leads me to think this is from the Intelligence Squared debate in which they absolutely demolish the theists. Well worth looking-up.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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http://www.intelligencesquared.com/e...atholic-church

Enjoy.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 07:05 PM
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Update (from The Independent):

A woman charged with racially aggravated harassment after displaying a golliwog in her window has denied the offence.
Jena Mason, 65, of College Lane, Worlingham, Suffolk, was arrested after her black neighbour Rosemarie O'Donnell complained about the doll to police.
At Lowestoft magistrates today she pleaded not guilty and her case was adjourned for a case management hearing on October 11.
Mason arrived at court flanked by her husband and two other men who attempted to block photographers at the entrance.
Appearing in the court's secure dock and wearing a cream suit, she spoke to confirm her name and address and enter a plea.
The row erupted after her neighbour complained about the doll on display at her manor home in the village.
Outside court, Howard Marjoram, 66, a BNP member from Lowestoft, said the party would be lending her support at future hearings.
He said: "To have all this fuss over a golliwog is a travesty and I am here to see justice done."
Mason was released on unconditional bail and did not speak as she left court.


Here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-2353989.html
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Thanks. I did that!
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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This company is based where I live ... I thought it was a bizarre choice of name:

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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 12:31 AM
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Racial harassment charges against a woman who displayed a golliwog in her window have been dropped.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 12:41 AM
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WTF? Common sense prevailing in the UK, what ever next?
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
The Black and White minstrel show was very good to see and in fact did a lot to promote black people in this country since the performances and songs were pleasantly entertaining.

Les
Which planet do you actually live on, Leslie? I only ask because it's obvious that no aspect of reality seems to intrude upon it.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Which planet do you actually live on, Leslie? I only ask because it's obvious that no aspect of reality seems to intrude upon it.
What's so wrong about Les's post?
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
We are all entitled to our opinions, and i have long since given up trying to enlighten people on the finer nuances of subtle subconcious (sp) racism.

I won't preach to the deaf or attempt to shine light into the eyes of a blind man.
Racism should be well in the past mate..... People need to get over it and smile. Its a DOLL..
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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Whats racist about a white person having a black doll though, if that's the case it would also be racist for a black person to have a white doll, far too many people pulling the racist card over silly little trivial things, where does it all end?
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