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Old 07 August 2011, 09:33 PM
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They are failing to fit into the system. There is work available but people have got to be willing to do it, sadly some seem to think they are to good to work in Mc Donald's even though they have no education and fuuk all skills.

A small backward society.
Old 07 August 2011, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mus
if the police wanted to raid the crack houses they could of set up sting operations, but they don't want to get there hands dirty. I know where Bruce grove police station is I've been in there a long time ago, I can't justify payig for a pay and display and wait for an hour give a report and then nothing gets done.

people that come out of prison get told that there is opportunities out there for em. they come out of prison and they can't pass the checks so no wants to employ them. so what do you expect the people to do??? the whole system is obviously not working down here.


I don't wish to come across as judgmental, so rather than ridicule, I'll ask you.
A sting operation. What exactly do you mean by a sting operation?
If you didn't report anything, as you couldn't justify paying to pay and display, how can you expect something to be done? You're complaining and yet can't be bothered to pay and display in order to make a report to police to give them a chance to do something about it. Have you tried recently? You say you went there a long time ago? Times move on

As far as no one wanting to employ people when they come out of prison, what has that got to do with looting, damaging property and throwing missiles at the police? It's certainly a way of procrastinating the issue by ensuring a return to prison
Old 07 August 2011, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fitzscoob
Are you speaking from direct experience here?

With regards to what I expect people to do in these situations, well firstly dont commit crimes that cause you to go to prison would be a good start, secondly if you do return from a stint at her majestys pleasure, dont grumble about not having a job as it was your own actions that put you in the situation in the first place. The world doesnt owe you a living.
makes perfect sense but also easy to say.
Old 07 August 2011, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mus
so whats your suggestion?

if th police don't have nothing to hide why haven't they released a statement yet? muppets a side why are there so many people protesting forget the ones that are rioting I can't answer for then.
Because they are not aware of the FACTS yet. The radio and weapon seized have been submitted for forensic examination. The results of those tests take time. When the facts are known, an investigative strategy will follow if necessary. Organisations tend to avoid speculation as it causes uncertainty. Thats why they deal with FACTS. Social networking sites which thrive on speculation are hardly a reliable source of information, similar to the media.
Be patient, when FACTS are established, I'm sure a statement will follow.
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Originally Posted by s70rjw
I don't wish to come across as judgmental, so rather than ridicule, I'll ask you.
A sting operation. What exactly do you mean by a sting operation?
If you didn't report anything, as you couldn't justify paying to pay and display, how can you expect something to be done? You're complaining and yet can't be bothered to pay and display in order to make a report to police to give them a chance to do something about it. Have you tried recently? You say you went there a long time ago? Times move on

As far as no one wanting to employ people when they come out of prison, what has that got to do with looting, damaging property and throwing missiles at the police? It's certainly a way of procrastinating the issue by ensuring a return to prison

if these kids had a youth centre to go to then maybe they would look at things differently on one of my previous post I stated I couldn't care let them riot I couldn't care less, but i guess that was more an emotional answer. the kids that breaking in to shops and stealing ect are just exploiting the situation taking advantage and isn't necessary to get the point across.

the youths have nothing to do nothing to look forward to they get in to crime.
Old 07 August 2011, 09:50 PM
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Mus if you think you're going to garner any sympathy whatsoever for the poor unfortunate DRUG DEALER who shot at the police and then had the temerity to die whilst they defended themselves then you are delusional.

As for the ****heads who are rioting cos 'one of their own' got what they deserved, I'd hazard a guess that should each one on the streets receive the same treatment, then crime in the area would rapidly decrease, as would the amount of benefit payments in the area. The local methadone clinic would lose a lot a business, mind, so it's not all good.
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Originally Posted by L.J.F
They are failing to fit into the system. There is work available but people have got to be willing to do it, sadly some seem to think they are to good to work in Mc Donald's even though they have no education and fuuk all skills.

A small backward society.

Unfortunately with the gangs in some London areas even if you want to work you are screwed. If you take a job and have to cross a gangs "turf" to get there, then you either get robbed or worse.
Old 07 August 2011, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Braap, braap, braap!
Trouble with flatulence?
Old 07 August 2011, 09:57 PM
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In enfield now looting. Where the **** are the police?

Old 07 August 2011, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Trouble with flatulence?
Nah man! That's the noise a gangstu' makes when he makes his fingers in to a gun shape a pretends to shoot.

I actually saw someone do this on the M1 the other day (near Luton) and nearly PMSL.

Fok da po leeece, straight outa Compton bitches.
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Originally Posted by Mus
if these kids had a youth centre to go to then maybe they would look at things differently on one of my previous post I stated I couldn't care let them riot I couldn't care less, but i guess that was more an emotional answer. the kids that breaking in to shops and stealing ect are just exploiting the situation taking advantage and isn't necessary to get the point across.

the youths have nothing to do nothing to look forward to they get in to crime.
I don't know how old you are, but I heard all this back in 1985. I got off my backside and found a job. No education other than what the state offered. Left an area with little or no prospects, few jobs. I didn't get into crime, all I had to look forward to was leaving an area that offered little.

There were several youth clubs in the area of the riots, looking at the news, a community leader is saying some community centres have been damaged by fire. Is that an emotional answer or kids exploiting the fact they have nothing?
Old 07 August 2011, 10:13 PM
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the youth club in broad water farm is shut and has been a for a long time. I knew it would get worse and wait till the marks body been realeased for the funeral there will be even more riotes of the funeral.
Old 07 August 2011, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by s70rjw
There were several youth clubs in the area of the riots, looking at the news, a community leader is saying some community centres have been damaged by fire. Is that an emotional answer or kids exploiting the fact they have nothing?
Neither. its because they are violent, indolent scum.

Seriously. Drop a bomb on the place, watch the crime rate plummet.
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Originally Posted by Mus
the youth club in broad water farm is shut and has been a for a long time. I knew it would get worse and wait till the marks body been realeased for the funeral there will be even more riotes of the funeral.
Why?
Old 07 August 2011, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by s70rjw
Why?
Once again, because they are violent, indolent scum.
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Old 07 August 2011, 10:24 PM
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Some idiot on twitter posing with his stolen merchandise, lets hope the police can track him down.

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Originally Posted by astraboy
Once again, because they are violent, indolent scum.
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The youth club on a Thursday and table tennis club in Benllech closed down in 1984. Guess what we did....set fire to buildings? Throw missiles at police?
Go looting?


























































Nope.

Got off our ***** and found another youth club nearby which we cycled to.
Back then though the world didn't owe folk a living.
Old 07 August 2011, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by s70rjw
Why?

Probably due to all the problems (including a shooting/murder at a private party) associated with the place
Old 07 August 2011, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by foxarm
In enfield now looting. Where the **** are the police?
I work just round the corner from this. Hope I still have an office to go to tomorrow.
Old 07 August 2011, 10:51 PM
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you have to wonder if its because much some idiot saying on twitter riots were gonna happen in Enfield actually caused it to happen..

BBC reporter Tarah Welsh, who said she was visiting family, said concrete slabs were being thrown through shop windows in the main shopping streets.

She said on Twitter: “Police car wrecked in Enfield - most rioters looked under 16, lots of young girls throwing concrete slabs through shop windows.”
sigh :/
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Originally Posted by s70rjw
I don't wish to come across as judgmental, so rather than ridicule, I'll ask you.
A sting operation. What exactly do you mean by a sting operation?
If you didn't report anything, as you couldn't justify paying to pay and display, how can you expect something to be done? You're complaining and yet can't be bothered to pay and display in order to make a report to police to give them a chance to do something about it. Have you tried recently? You say you went there a long time ago? Times move on

As far as no one wanting to employ people when they come out of prison, what has that got to do with looting, damaging property and throwing missiles at the police? It's certainly a way of procrastinating the issue by ensuring a return to prison
the police can send a undercover police officer camera and get him to go in there and buy some crack, heroin, coke ect. would that not be enough evidence?

in regards to the stealing and damaging property well to be honest no I don't agree with it and like I previously said some of the youths are taking advantage.
Old 07 August 2011, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mus
the police can send a undercover police officer camera and get him to go in there and buy some crack, heroin, coke ect. would that not be enough evidence?

in regards to the stealing and damaging property well to be honest no I don't agree with it and like I previously said some of the youths are taking advantage.
You really are very naiive. You yourself say these people are proper gangsters pimping hoes and the like. This undercover police officer, what does he do, turn up with a party invitation? You really think you can walk into an organised crack house as a stranger carrying a camera? Maybe hire an outfit like this

http://www.mypartyplanner.com/common...age_406806.jpg

You really do need to get real
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Why should they have a youth centre? Who's going to pay for it? These "kids" obviously have no brains or they could figure out something to do that didn't involve crime. But then as they have "role models" like you it's no wonder ....

Dave
like what is that trying to imply, just cause I live in a rough area means Im a criminal.

the point I'm trying to make is everyone can judge and make assumptions but until you live there and see it you won't know the full extent of the problem.
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Originally Posted by Mus
like what is that trying to imply, just cause I live in a rough area means Im a criminal.

the point I'm trying to make is everyone can judge and make assumptions but until you live there and see it you won't know the full extent of the problem.
You said the bullet in the police radio was a police bullet. Back that up with some evidence.
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Originally Posted by s70rjw
You really are very naiive. You yourself say these people are proper gangsters pimping hoes and the like. This undercover police officer, what does he do, turn up with a party invitation? You really think you can walk into an organised crack house as a stranger carrying a camera? Maybe hire an outfit like this

http://www.mypartyplanner.com/common...age_406806.jpg

You really do need to get real
no you need to open your mind I have been working on that road for nearly ten years and I drive passed it sometimes 6 times a day the front door is never closed. I know you don't want to believe me why not go for a drive and see for yourself.
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Originally Posted by s70rjw
You said the bullet in the police radio was a police bullet. Back that up with some evidence.
3 eye witnesses said the guy was on his face and alive then they heard gun shots, the guardian paper says the bullet in the radio was fired from a police officers gun.

the guy has never committed a crime he had no criminal record at age 29 has four kids just caused he posed in a picture doing a gun sign makes him a gangster lol
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Originally Posted by Mus
some one just text me who ever listens and believes the media hasn't got a clue about the real world, they are just programmed lol

the last few days I realised the power of the media in 29 years I though it's only media no one believes them apart from the odd few. but my god I take my hat off to the media they have surprised me they are very powerful.


Originally Posted by Mus
3 eye witnesses said the guy was on his face and alive then they heard gun shots, the guardian paper says the bullet in the radio was fired from a police officers gun.

the guy has never committed a crime he had no criminal record at age 29 has four kids just caused he posed in a picture doing a gun sign makes him a gangster lol
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3 eye witnesses and the bit about guardian just goes to show how inaccurate the media can be one tabloid says gangster shot down after firing at the police and the guardian tells a different story, thats just an example.
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Originally Posted by Mus
the police in my area make you hate them by the way they approach you, regardless of how you are dressed some are ok but the majority Are ***** straight up. I'm not basing this on one incident I'm basing this on over 20 years in tottenham yes there are a few good ones who are trying to do a job and i dont mind them but there's a lot of *****.
I bet they stop and question a lot of ***** as well.


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