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Old 05 February 2011, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
Somebody can supply, fit and map a syvecs including dyno time for £1500, if I fail to mention the VAT like others have in their post lol but I mentioned the dyno time also which they didnt.

Link G4 I believe will cost you £860+VAT for the unit and then mapping of upto £400+VAT + dyno time..

There is also obviously the SimTek option

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Simon, is the link g4 ecu any good.
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Yes they aren't bad but you are nearly at syvecs money which is very very good.

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Old 05 February 2011, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MMT WRX
Are you referring to my post?
yes
Old 05 February 2011, 11:36 AM
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Oh right, why? All I've done is try and point someone at an ad that I found whilst researching this myself, with a visible price. I couldn't see if it was ex/inc VAT so I added a link for him to check out himself.
Is there something wrong with that, have I broken the rules or something?
Old 05 February 2011, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by EH52WRX
Were you expecting 470 bhp
no, was expecting 450-460 max
Old 05 February 2011, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MMT WRX
Oh right, why? All I've done is try and point someone at an ad that I found whilst researching this myself, with a visible price. I couldn't see if it was ex/inc VAT so I added a link for him to check out himself.
Is there something wrong with that, have I broken the rules or something?
No nothing wrong, just 20% vat makes comparing prices with and without pointless etc

I was only being cheeky, but maybe I need to put my syvecs pricing up
Old 05 February 2011, 12:34 PM
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Buying ecu in UK is much much expensive then buying from New Zealand, where the ecu made.
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
No nothing wrong, just 20% vat makes comparing prices with and without pointless etc

I was only being cheeky, but maybe I need to put my syvecs pricing up
Well before you do, what would you recommend for an R33 GT R and pricing? I've been looking at Link G4 as they seem to get positive comments on the Skyline forums, do you do these.
PM if you prefer.
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Originally Posted by Aarts
Buying ecu in UK is much much expensive then buying from New Zealand, where the ecu made.
Will they sell it to you and post to uk? Will have to pay import duty etc
Old 05 February 2011, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MMT WRX
Well before you do, what would you recommend for an R33 GT R and pricing? I've been looking at Link G4 as they seem to get positive comments on the Skyline forums, do you do these.
PM if you prefer.
They are a capable ecu, only reason I dont actively sell then is the cost compared to simtek / syvecs but thats different for the gtr as there is no simtek but syvecs works with a loom adaptor but cost is then greater. The link g4 is a good choice for it.

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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
Somebody can supply, fit and map a syvecs including dyno time for £1500, if I fail to mention the VAT like others have in their post lol but I mentioned the dyno time also which they didnt.

Simon
Excellent price Simon, in the normal domestic market not charging VAT is king
Old 05 February 2011, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
They are a capable ecu, only reason I dont actively sell then is the cost compared to simtek / syvecs but thats different for the gtr as there is no simtek but syvecs works with a loom adaptor but cost is then greater. The link g4 is a good choice for it.

Simon
Ok thanks for that, so out of interest, what would a Syvecs cost including the loom adaptor and are there any benefits over the G4. I mentioned the G4 to one place and was told they were crap and to get a Syvecs.

Im getting as bad as my Mrs picking bloody shoes
Old 05 February 2011, 11:14 PM
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Actually i'm not in UK, but yes they will send you. Isn't New Zealand part of UK or was(Queen is same )?But i dont know will there import tax or not. But you can talk to them on skype and bargain for prices. I got bargain from two PnP link ecus.And if other ecus, mentioned here before,
havent't got base map, then the tuning will take longer.Link has oline support and forum where you can ask advice if you need it.One more good thing that link has is autotune(tuning AFR). You can turn autotune on and then go to tune ignition map.

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
Will they sell it to you and post to uk? Will have to pay import duty etc
Old 05 February 2011, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Excellent price Simon, in the normal domestic market not charging VAT is king
I didnt mean I didnt or wouldnt charge vat, I meant the other price quoted had vat no top.

Although I can see my post quoted looks that way

Simon
Old 05 February 2011, 11:32 PM
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What i know this ECU is from no more than few which support AVCS(Gems,Syvecs and Link),great for owners JDM WRX or WRX which want run AVCS
This ECU is on mine list with GEMS(this have AdgeSpeed for £650) and Syvecs(best price is which i found £1600 including VAT and mapping etc.).




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Originally Posted by MMT WRX
Ok thanks for that, so out of interest, what would a Syvecs cost including the loom adaptor and are there any benefits over the G4. I mentioned the G4 to one place and was told they were crap and to get a Syvecs.

Im getting as bad as my Mrs picking bloody shoes
Syvecs is many times better than a link yes.

Tbh creating a loom adaptor for a gtr is not a job I would take on, I dont get time or the interest to know them inside out like subarus, mapped a fair few but creating a loom adaptor is more involved.
If serious you could try zen performance as I believe he has done loom adaptors for them.

Simon
Old 05 February 2011, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
Syvecs is many times better than a link yes.

Tbh creating a loom adaptor for a gtr is not a job I would take on, I dont get time or the interest to know them inside out like subarus, mapped a fair few but creating a loom adaptor is more involved.
If serious you could try zen performance as I believe he has done loom adaptors for them.

Simon
OK thanks again.
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
Syvecs is many times better than a link yes.
cos it made in uk it dosent make it better. Syvecs dosnt even have onboard logingAnd the homepage dosnt say anything about map size, what is important to know.
Best is to compare ecus specifications and see what you need and what you dont and then compare prices(available support to).
If go any cheaper you need to buy megasquirt
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Originally Posted by Aarts
cos it made in uk it dosent make it better. Syvecs dosnt even have onboard logingAnd the homepage dosnt say anything about map size, what is important to know.
Best is to compare ecus specifications and see what you need and what you dont and then compare prices(available support to).
If go any cheaper you need to buy megasquirt
I was making my decision from mapping and installing both, from driving cars on both, from the specifications on both from ringing syvecs and suggesting additions to the software and them being added. There is on board logging on syvecs.
Originating company wasnt part of my decision although seeing as this is a uk website one would assume 99.9% of the people on here are in the uk therefore support and backup being in the uk is an advantage.

If you cant find info you want regarding map size for example then pop into the forum and post the question www.syvecs.co.uk

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Originally Posted by Aarts
Actually i'm not in UK, but yes they will send you. Isn't New Zealand part of UK or was(Queen is same )?But i dont know will there import tax or not. But you can talk to them on skype and bargain for prices. I got bargain from two PnP link ecus.And if other ecus, mentioned here before,
havent't got base map, then the tuning will take longer.Link has oline support and forum where you can ask advice if you need it.One more good thing that link has is autotune(tuning AFR). You can turn autotune on and then go to tune ignition map.
Syvecs allows wideband lambda closed loop fueling, 8position cal switch (different fuel maps, different boost etc there are 4 ignition maps and 4 fuel maps), you can add inputs of various sensors (oil pressure, oil temp etc and setup engine trips on them ie. Kill the engine if oil pressure drops below 4bar at 5000rpm, 2bar at 1000rpm etc, set the rev limit to 4000rpm if the oil temp goes over 120, all configurable on values). You can control dccd diff within the ecu, the logging is configurable so you can log what you want.
Boost control usual plots a straight line on the dyno etc plus lots more just tip of the iceburg

There is import tax from nz yes.
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Now hear is plenty facts about these ecus And dont take me as link salesman, cos i'm not. I just like how easy to use it.I got Pnp link (G3)half a price from £1600.But this was about two year ago
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Don't get my wrong Aarts its a good bit of kit, and being as you are in NZ where they are made etc it make a lot more sense to use one.

But from my point of view selling and installing ecu, the price here in the uk is not much different between Syvecs and Link and the Syvecs is a lot better.

SimTek and Link is a closer comparison price and function wise etc.

Simon
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Mapped a few Vipec ecus on Evos guys. Nice little ecu but not in the same league as the Syvecs, but then to be fair, little is at this moment in time.

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No i'm not in New Zealand i'm in Estonia And yes i dont know what taxes will come if order from NZ to UK.
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Mapped a few Vipec ecus on Evos guys. Nice little ecu but not in the same league as the Syvecs, but then to be fair, little is at this moment in time.

Martyn
So what is the difference in the two Ecu's.
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And can the link ecu be lived mapped, or only on roller.
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Syvecs has far more features built in, much better data logging and safety kill options.
If it is too expensive then look at the Simtek as a viable option. It is missing a few of the features the Syvecs offers, but has very user friendly software and a good UK dealer support network.

In regards to mapping, yes both can be live mapped, but whether that takes place on the road or rolling road is up to the mapper.

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Thx Martyn & JGM for your input, I think i have made my mind up, and i will be going for a Link Extreme G4. There are a couple of reasons. No one does Syvecs in scotland, its over priced IMO, I can get a link ecu for about half the price, and as far as skyline owners are concerned its a great bit of kit. Thanks again for all your input.
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Syvecs has far more features built in, much better data logging and safety kill options.
If it is too expensive then look at the Simtek as a viable option. It is missing a few of the features the Syvecs offers, but has very user friendly software and a good UK dealer support network.

In regards to mapping, yes both can be live mapped, but whether that takes place on the road or rolling road is up to the mapper.


Simtek is useless ECU,is step to nowhere for JDM WRX or WRX with AVCS,because can control AVCS,don't have closed loop idle,just because have Mafless feature,ALS or LC.Simtek is overpriced as well IMHO.Without the Mafless or ALS is Simtek just piece of crap.
And if you are like Mafless or ALS you can turn your OE ECU to Speed density via Group N ROM

Syvecs have features like Link or GEMS,if someone don't like map these ECU its doesn't mean these ECU are wrong.


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Originally Posted by jura11
Simtek is useless ECU,is step to nowhere for JDM WRX or WRX with AVCS,because can control AVCS,don't have closed loop idle,just because have Mafless feature,ALS or LC.Simtek is overpriced as well IMHO.Without the Mafless or ALS is Simtek just piece of crap.
And if you are like Mafless or ALS you can turn your OE ECU to Speed density via Group N ROM

Syvecs have features like Link or GEMS,if someone don't like map these ECU its doesn't mean these ECU are wrong.


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TRIPE, the SimTek is a very capable ecu.
It most certainly can control AVCS on models fitted with it a stock and can be adapted to run it on earlier cars.
I have personally never found not having closed loop idle a problem and have fitted or mapped in excess of 80 units from stock cars to 650bhp monsters.
I also run 2 in my own cars.

I don't know what your beef with SimTek is and personally don't want to, but try and keep your posts to factually correct info.

Martyn


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