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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mus
I think they mean speak to David over the phone and see what his willing to do? I don't know many companies that would warranty such a build, I'm sure if you speak to api they will try an offer you a nice discount on any repair as a good will gesture.
Thanks, I know what they mean, but that's not going to happen.

Originally Posted by stevie1982
What i think everyone does not get is if you have had the engine built by Api why are you asking for opinions from members and asking where to take it, as said above take it to Api no one else they built it just seems strange that you aren't. If I had spent in the region of 5k for a 2.5 build plus extras no doubt ie clutch turbo extra so guessing near on 10k with a company and I had covered 10k in miles in just over a year and had made sure all the checks were done at right times with the liners, servicing and all and it went pop dirt place I would go is the company who built it as I would hope they would be willing to help and we could come to a deal so we all win, fromm experiance api are one of the good ones so why take it else where. Just seems like there is more to it, please PM me if you wish

If not no worries and best of luck getting it sorted in the new year with who ever you use
I spent a lot more than that with API, but I'd still prefer a different company to check what's happened with the car. There is more to it than I've posted, but I'm just interested in finding somewhere that'll look into the issue I'm having with the smoke from the exhaust and black sludge in the cooling system.

Originally Posted by alcazar
Guys, I don't think he's going to do that.

Ask him why not.
Alcazar, I guess from your posts you're an API fan and have heard one side of the story? Thanks for your input but I think we'd all prefer it if the original question and responses to it were the subject of the thread. If you'd like to continue your speculation PM me.
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Cant blame NXG for not wanting to start a slagging contest about API, dude simply wants to get his car sorted asap same as the rest of us
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Lol, tell us the full story! I'm all curious now and i'm assuming so is everyone else! I'm not on anyones side.

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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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The guy is asking for advice on where else to go, but to be honest, if he didnt mention APi at all, none of this would have started.

He could have said, 'where can I take my 2.5 built motor to that is near Northants?'
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Very true, but he didn't! Lol
API made such a good reputation for themselves that everyone wants in on the details when something goes wrong wiht an engine build from API, that's what i think.
Like i say i'm on no ones side.

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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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He did, its in the thread title
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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He did, its in the thread title
Saalro means he didn't just say where can I take it, he started by mentioning API.

NXG: why don't YOU tell us the full story, then?
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Saalro means he didn't just say where can I take it, he started by mentioning API.

NXG: why don't YOU tell us the full story, then?


But an understandable mistake, i thought i made a mistake myself untill i reread it, but a didn't or did would both work lol.

Full story full story full story!

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Guys, I won't being going into the saga in this thread just to satisfy meddler or fan-boy idle curiosity, and am glad to see at least some have the maturity to understand this.

I posted it's an API built engine in my car (as are a lot of other mods), and the symptoms a qualified engineer has informed me of, solely to indicate to any possible interested companies that the engine is not standard and has been re-worked to API's specification. Any company that knows what they're doing will therefore have a good idea what may be involved to resolve any issues and return the engine to its past 452/485 form.

I've received several offers of help which I'm pursuing now, so thanks for the responses and interest, and I'll update the thread when the cause of the problems has been professionally identified and documented.
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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Good luck getting it sorted. Its a horrible feeling when you think your engine has been built with the best of the best by the best of the best and then decides to let go. A similar thing happened to my 2.5 last year. (not API built ,just for the record.)
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Originally Posted by NXG
Guys, I won't being going into the saga in this thread just to satisfy meddler or fan-boy idle curiosity, and am glad to see at least some have the maturity to understand this.
Oh we understand alright
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Oh we understand alright
No... you really don't.
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NXG
No... you really don't.
So..........enlighten us.

It's put up or shut up time dude.
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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I feel for you NXG....as I had the same problem with a "tuner" in 2008 when my built forged 2.5 blew a headgasket .
My P1 is still at the Tuners(different tuner from the one that blew my gasket ) waiting to be completed 2 years on !!

good luck with yr car, hope you dont have to wait 2 years for it to be sorted lol
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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No, it's time to ignore the troll.
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Originally Posted by bighead
I feel for you NXG....as I had the same problem with a "tuner" in 2008 when my built forged 2.5 blew a headgasket .
My P1 is still at the Tuners(different tuner from the one that blew my gasket ) waiting to be completed 2 years on !!

good luck with yr car, hope you dont have to wait 2 years for it to be sorted lol
I suppose component/build failure is the price we sometimes have to pay for pushing things way beyond manufacturer specifications, although judging by the ongoing thread regarding standard engine failures, keeping things standard is by no means any guarantee.
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NXG
I suppose component/build failure is the price we sometimes have to pay for pushing things way beyond manufacturer specifications, although judging by the ongoing thread regarding standard engine failures, keeping things standard is by no means any guarantee.
i may be mis informed but i thought api (within certain conditions) guarantee their engines?
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by stevie1982
first thing is first, you should of contacted David and the team at API first before coming on here and mentioning their name linking them to an engine failure, the engine is over a year old and could be many a reason why it failed but with the mention of the name the **** can stick to them. not saying you are blaming them but as said **** sticks mate.
good luck
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I would like to know why you have not spoken to API, after spending a large amount of money with them that should surely been have your first
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by speights
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I would like to know why you have not spoken to API, after spending a large amount of money with them that should surely been have your first
call
Thats a fair comment............i guess there is more here than meets the eye.
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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A.P.I dont do warranties on headgaskets

I know....
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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I don't think any one out there waranties modified engines as some tend to last a lot longer than others. api are a good company from what I hear and I'm sure they will reason something out with you and as a fellow enthusiast i know you want your car running asap it's a bad feeling looking at your car every day And not been able to drive it lucky theres poor weather now good luck I hope you get it sorted mate
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So am I right to think that API have told all of you that seem to know what this is all about ? Seems a bit strange.

Dunno why the OP is being given a hard time - he has asked what he wanted very clearly without apportioning blame to anyone so why try to make it into a slanging match ?

He asked and has been given his answer.. end of.
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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all i would say is if i ask an company to build me an engine which will run what ever power i said i would expect at least sim months warrenty if not a year but when you go over the old 400 mark it might be a lot harder to pt a warrenty on it and lets face it it woudl depned on how it is drivenand treated and maintained
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APi do offer a warranty on all of their engine builds AFAIK. The OP has stated that this work was done 2008/9. It's now the end of 2010. That would make it well out of even a good warranty period for a rebuild (typically about 6 months).

Therefore, it would be unreasonable in the absence of any evidence (which we've been told will not be forthcoming by the OP themself) to assume any fault on the part of APi.

The OP has asked a question which has been answered.

I think it's time to lock this thread rather than let idle speculation continue that will achieve nothing.

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