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Old 08 November 2010, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
The car industry thinks that front wheel drive with relatively narrow tyres is probably the safest given the lowest common denominator which is the clot behind the wheel!
Relatively narrow tyres ? even boggo Astras have 225's on them these days, in the nineties that was the preserve of borderline supercars, cars nowadays have massive grip compared to those from the past and loads of electronics for when it runs out.
Old 08 November 2010, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
I think you made a big mistake there, the TTRS is a gem. Once remapped it is quicker than the R8 and offers genuine supercar performance for very little outlay. It looks stunning, build quality is impressive, it's relatively cheap to run with a 30mpg return and it will hold its value well.

They are releasing it with S-tronic in the next few weeks or so which will make it even more of a gem.
I was only going off what the review were telling me.

S-Tronic? Man-up and buy a manual.
Old 08 November 2010, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Relatively narrow tyres ? even boggo Astras have 225's on them these days, in the nineties that was the preserve of borderline supercars, cars nowadays have massive grip compared to those from the past and loads of electronics for when it runs out.
They do indeed! Mine had 17" 225s which I thought was a bit OTT. The BM with almost double the power has the same size rubber but seems to cope fine. I think a lot of cars are overtyred and overwheeled.
Old 08 November 2010, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
I was only going off what the review were telling me.

S-Tronic? Man-up and buy a manual.
For out and out pace, the S-tronic is going to be the quicker car.

If memory serves me right, the manual does 0-100 in 10.9secs, and here's a review of the auto doing the ton in 10.3secs.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9940/az6o.jpg

Not bad from a 335bhp motor, easily 9 sec 100 times when mapped
Old 08 November 2010, 01:31 PM
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Yeah its quicker, but its more boring. Next thing you'll want is auto steering and auto brakes (actually most modern VAG's do have steer/park assist capeability and they are working on getting the ESP to "help" steer the car for the driver when in trouble - scary)

Plus the damper valve on the clutch pedal fitted to the manuals slows down the gear change speed of most VAG manuals: Side step the clutch on many modern VAGs and you'll note the pedal takes between 0.25 to 0.5 seconds to come fully back up. It physically prevent you being too brutal with it (probably a good thing after the warranty has expired ), I'm amazed that so few people notice it (or is it just me who does hard standing start launches?).

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Old 08 November 2010, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
I'm with you there. Took delivery of my 370Z last December (17th) and it sat in my garage for the next couple of months.

Tried to get it out of the Garage (down a cobled lane) a few times, where it got stuck on the slightest bit of snow/ice. One time I thought I wasn't going to get it back in again.

I won't be trying that again this year.
exactly my point

no chance of that this winter though as I am prepared
Old 08 November 2010, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bighead
exactly my point

no chance of that this winter though as I am prepared
Me too. Bought another car this year with AWD.

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Old 08 November 2010, 07:25 PM
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Old 08 November 2010, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Relatively narrow tyres ? even boggo Astras have 225's on them these days, in the nineties that was the preserve of borderline supercars, cars nowadays have massive grip compared to those from the past and loads of electronics for when it runs out.
True - and all the more useless in the snow.

Bring back the 2CV!!!!!!
Old 08 November 2010, 09:00 PM
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A guy at work has a MY07 RS4 Avant, and has had nothing but problems with it.... which is apparently quite common.

Just had his letter through to extend the warranty.... over £1700!!!!
Old 08 November 2010, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
A guy at work has a MY07 RS4 Avant, and has had nothing but problems with it.... which is apparently quite common.

Just had his letter through to extend the warranty.... over £1700!!!!
such as ??.....i mean its only a 3 yr old car !!!! and a high end german car at that as well lol
Old 08 November 2010, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bighead
such as ??.....i mean its only a 3 yr old car !!!! and a high end german car at that as well lol
Twice for suspension problems, and once for a kinked pipe under the inlet manifold.... which they tried to say was wear and tear and charged £900+ to fix. (there were other issues, but can't remember what they were)

My friends brother-in-law also has one, and again has had big problems, including a blown engine after less than 25k miles.
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
Twice for suspension problems, and once for a kinked pipe under the inlet manifold.... which they tried to say was wear and tear and charged £900+ to fix. (there were other issues, but can't remember what they were)

My friends brother-in-law also has one, and again has had big problems, including a blown engine after less than 25k miles.
so i guess the rumours re Audi reliablity issues are true then
as i know my friend's 58 plate Rs6( nov 2008) seem to visit the Audi dealerships alot of times since taken delivery of the car
Old 08 November 2010, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
A guy at work has a MY07 RS4 Avant, and has had nothing but problems with it.... which is apparently quite common.

Just had his letter through to extend the warranty.... over £1700!!!!
And people think a Porsche warranty is expensive!!!
Old 08 November 2010, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
And people think a Porsche warranty is expensive!!!
That's pretty much what he said to them
Old 08 November 2010, 11:58 PM
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he has been robbed then as my warranty is only 600 a year and covers absolutely everything to the value of the car.Suspension problems are a known problem with all performance Audi's and 9 times out of ten they are replaced with coilovers rather than refit the unreliable DRC suspension.The only other problems with them are suspect gearboxes (fine if car is left standard) and the intercoolers are prone to leaks other than that the engines are bomb proof
Old 09 November 2010, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mitchy260
For out and out pace, the S-tronic is going to be the quicker car.

If memory serves me right, the manual does 0-100 in 10.9secs, and here's a review of the auto doing the ton in 10.3secs.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9940/az6o.jpg

Not bad from a 335bhp motor, easily 9 sec 100 times when mapped
Cars are more that just statistics.

American car mags are terrible for this, they obsess and get **** about the most minute statistics.
Old 09 November 2010, 07:34 AM
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That's German
Old 09 November 2010, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
he has been robbed then as my warranty is only 600 a year and covers absolutely everything to the value of the car.Suspension problems are a known problem with all performance Audi's and 9 times out of ten they are replaced with coilovers rather than refit the unreliable DRC suspension.The only other problems with them are suspect gearboxes (fine if car is left standard) and the intercoolers are prone to leaks other than that the engines are bomb proof
That's what i thought, but it seems the RS4's have the issues.
Haven't heard any horror stories about RS6's/R8's
Old 09 November 2010, 12:54 PM
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My old man had a RS4, and it didn't have a single problem. Nothing on his R8 either.

Guess all manufacturers have `those` cars that go wrong.
Old 09 November 2010, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
My RS6 (earlier shape one) is superior to my 535d m sport in every way and is much nicer (and faster) than any of my 3 previous imprezas including Spec C and Type R.I will no doubt get bored of the 520bhp at some point and want something different but not until the kids are a bit bigger
RS6's rival would be an M5.
Old 09 November 2010, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
My old man had a RS4, and it didn't have a single problem. Nothing on his R8 either.

Guess all manufacturers have `those` cars that go wrong.
Really? I didn't know that?
And you say he now has an R8? First I've ever heard of it.
Old 09 November 2010, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
RS6's rival would be an M5.
no **** sherlock
Old 09 November 2010, 02:56 PM
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Natural rival for scooby-tc's car is:

Daren - My S3 would kill your lard **** barge in 'the twisties' even with knackered suspension and a miss fire......IT'S FAR TOO HEAVY!!!
Old 09 November 2010, 03:00 PM
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YAWN !!!!!!
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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
YAWN !!!!!!
quite appropriate for an S3 driver.
Old 09 November 2010, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
quite appropriate for an S3 driver.
Would not be seen dead in a hearse I mean Audi
Old 09 November 2010, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Would not be seen dead in a hearse I mean Audi
good lad!
Old 09 November 2010, 03:30 PM
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The RS4 warranty isn't too bad at £1700.... apparently the R8 extended warranty is £3k
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I'm guessing that is the Audi dealer warranty extension Gary? i know main dealer warranty is scandalous and a lot of the technicians arent clued up on RS models as they aren't as mainstream as the ordinary models.If i was him i'd definatly look into a Warranty Direct extra care policy which is half the price and the work can be done at specialists rather than tied to main dealer


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