Wonder how Webbers opening conversation with Vittel will go?
01 June 2010, 07:01 PM
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Don't think so - Red Bull has something new arrive just before quali, like minutes before, but I think they only had the one version and it went on Webber's car. Pretty sure that is what Horner said on Saturday, but could be wrong.
01 June 2010, 07:14 PM
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They mention this in the F1 forum after and EJ was going to have another soap box moment about the wing endplates and I think Jake said that they both had the same.
This was contradictory to what was said earlier though.
This was contradictory to what was said earlier though.
01 June 2010, 07:32 PM
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Not much love for Seb here
http://www.redbull.com/cs/Satellite/...ed&refmodpos=9
I'm more on the fence, hence my comment.
Redbull with the verbal band aid.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84085
http://www.redbull.com/cs/Satellite/...ed&refmodpos=9
I'm more on the fence, hence my comment.
Redbull with the verbal band aid.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84085
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01 June 2010, 09:24 PM
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This in no way changes the incident and whom is deemed to be culpable, I am simply informing you of the facts
01 June 2010, 09:42 PM
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Take a look at this, and go to about 12 mins when they discuss the incident.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...nd_Prix_Forum/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...nd_Prix_Forum/
All say it was Vettel, Eddie Jordan goes on to say he felt he was
squeezed, which they loosely agree on, but confirm this was prior to the
contact!.
They confirm Webber had the line and gave Vettel no quarter.
Eddie Jordan sums it up nicley!!!!
The comment was
"I'm not having this, I'm going to turn into you", Thinking the wheels
would touch, and not the accident that ensued.
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01 June 2010, 09:48 PM
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Which is pretty much all I've been saying. I've never said it was Webbers fault, just that he is not blameless.
If Webber had of given Vettel more room (his team had instructed both drivers to do this on track) rather than squeeze him the incident may not have happened....of course it may have done.....we'll never know.
What we do know is for the main part it's given us a bit of discussion, and a 5 page thread!
If Webber had of given Vettel more room (his team had instructed both drivers to do this on track) rather than squeeze him the incident may not have happened....of course it may have done.....we'll never know.
What we do know is for the main part it's given us a bit of discussion, and a 5 page thread!
01 June 2010, 10:16 PM
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Which is pretty much all I've been saying. I've never said it was Webbers fault, just that he is not blameless.
If Webber had of given Vettel more room (his team had instructed both drivers to do this on track) rather than squeeze him the incident may not have happened....of course it may have done.....we'll never know.
What we do know is for the main part it's given us a bit of discussion, and a 5 page thread!
If Webber had of given Vettel more room (his team had instructed both drivers to do this on track) rather than squeeze him the incident may not have happened....of course it may have done.....we'll never know.
What we do know is for the main part it's given us a bit of discussion, and a 5 page thread!
No, you were saying Webber moved into Vettels path!
Check out all your posts stating " check the video at 00:49, webber turns
his wheel left into vettel".
Funny how if he was squeezed, and Webber gave no quarter, which is
there to see in the video, Vettel managed to go from on the white line, to
away from the white line, long before he made contact.
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01 June 2010, 11:03 PM
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I'm saying he squeezed him, not moved in to his path.
Webber moved left before Vettel got alongside. Clearly he should have squeezed him a bit more if Vettel had room to move
It's funny how you can see Vettel move away from the white line but can't see Webber move left though.
Even I'm getting tired of this now. I seem to be repeating myself.
Got to go bed! Can't we talk about Britains got talent or something tomorrow?
Webber moved left before Vettel got alongside. Clearly he should have squeezed him a bit more if Vettel had room to move
It's funny how you can see Vettel move away from the white line but can't see Webber move left though.
Even I'm getting tired of this now. I seem to be repeating myself.
Got to go bed! Can't we talk about Britains got talent or something tomorrow?
01 June 2010, 11:16 PM
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Take a look at this, and go to about 12 mins when they discuss the incident.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...nd_Prix_Forum/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...nd_Prix_Forum/
DC could use a bit of right guard tho!
01 June 2010, 11:35 PM
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01 June 2010, 11:41 PM
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I normally watch this after every race, usually some pretty good points and topics covered after the race.
02 June 2010, 12:38 AM
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Excuse my ignorance Dunk but where do they transmit the forum, via the red button ? We get the BBC commentary out here with EJ and DC chipping in, I wouldn't mind watching the Forum when Im back in blighty.
02 June 2010, 01:03 AM
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It's normally pretty intresting stuff, and usually better than the normal sh1te we get on TV on a Sunday afternoon anyway
02 June 2010, 06:30 AM
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I would just like to say,that I can't stand that ****ing gormless,clueless ****, Jake.
A ****ing halfwit!
How he got that job,is beyond me.
I feel better,now.
Carry on with your discussion!
Chris
A ****ing halfwit!
How he got that job,is beyond me.
I feel better,now.
Carry on with your discussion!
Chris
02 June 2010, 06:44 AM
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02 June 2010, 08:19 AM
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Why has he got it? to write notes with? or just to twitter!?!?
I don't mind Jake that much though, what I am getting really tired of is Jonathan Legard constantly talking over Brundle. They need to go back to sharing a mic like Walker and Hunt used to. Either that or Brundle needs to nut him one the next time he does it.
I don't mind Jake that much though, what I am getting really tired of is Jonathan Legard constantly talking over Brundle. They need to go back to sharing a mic like Walker and Hunt used to. Either that or Brundle needs to nut him one the next time he does it.
02 June 2010, 09:35 AM
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Have to disagree about Jake, I think he's a great anchor man for the job, the 3 amigos are good entertainment and you can see the passion and love of the sport he has.
Not only that but the BBC seem to be able to get up very close and personal with the major players within the teams. The F1 forum afterwards (Funkii its on Iplayer too so you don't need to watch it live) is excellent and again Jake chairs it well. All the old hands (Brundle, Jordan, Bernie) have a lot of time for him so he's definately doing something right
He has a great job, living the dream and doing it well. Fair play on him.
It is Sooo much better than when ITV had it and Jake and the team are key factors in that.
Not only that but the BBC seem to be able to get up very close and personal with the major players within the teams. The F1 forum afterwards (Funkii its on Iplayer too so you don't need to watch it live) is excellent and again Jake chairs it well. All the old hands (Brundle, Jordan, Bernie) have a lot of time for him so he's definately doing something right
He has a great job, living the dream and doing it well. Fair play on him.
It is Sooo much better than when ITV had it and Jake and the team are key factors in that.
02 June 2010, 11:17 AM
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Not keen on Leggard - I think the guy who does it on the radio with Anthony Davidson is better. I would listen to them exclusively if it wasn't for Martin Brundle.
02 June 2010, 11:25 AM
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I agree. I think they work quite well. Jake is the anchor, DC with his driver insight and EJ for his outspoken comments and cringeworty wardrobe. Perfect combo IMO.
Not keen on Leggard - I think the guy who does it on the radio with Anthony Davidson is better. I would listen to them exclusively if it wasn't for Martin Brundle.
Not keen on Leggard - I think the guy who does it on the radio with Anthony Davidson is better. I would listen to them exclusively if it wasn't for Martin Brundle.
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I think its 50:50 maybe even more Webbers fault.
Vettel had got in front by half a car length, and had the inside line which is track position. The natural racing line for that up coming corner would be to move right (especially noting webber vs hamilton at the same corner Webber had to take a wider line EVERY lap)
Yes Vettel has moved right a touch too much but Webber hasn't given him an inch and had nothing to gain already being on the outside and behind.
Glad to see Mclaren managing to keep in touch with the Redbulls this weekend.
Vettel had got in front by half a car length, and had the inside line which is track position. The natural racing line for that up coming corner would be to move right (especially noting webber vs hamilton at the same corner Webber had to take a wider line EVERY lap)
Yes Vettel has moved right a touch too much but Webber hasn't given him an inch and had nothing to gain already being on the outside and behind.
Glad to see Mclaren managing to keep in touch with the Redbulls this weekend.
Simon