Are the road signs misleading?
13 April 2010, 09:52 AM
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Just found this on the Web. The road is closed for pipe works but if the signalling is wrong they should not do you for it.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/microsites/freight/news-1136.aspx
Les
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/microsites/freight/news-1136.aspx
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13 April 2010, 11:38 AM
#34
Someone just posted the link up on pepipoo of the route i took. I cant see anything that i should have seen.
Follow the road to the right behind the bus
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...258.68,,0,8.06
They wont get me today as i am in disguise, i have my private plate back on
Follow the road to the right behind the bus
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...258.68,,0,8.06
They wont get me today as i am in disguise, i have my private plate back on
14 April 2010, 09:59 AM
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I am starting to agree with you. 
I am now waiting to see if i get another PCN in the post for doing the same thing again yesterday in a different part of London.
This has really affected me you know. I was terrified to go into the left hand lanes all day in case they were a bus lane. Sometimes they say 'Bus Lane' on the road and other times they dont but but still have double red lines in them. I dont have these lanes where i live so they are alien to me.
I nearly caused an accident when my sat nav said turn left. I was in the middle lane but i was too scared to go into the left lane in case it was still a bus lane so i waited till i got to the junction then went left as fast as i could cutting across everyone and getting loads of verbal abuse in the process.
God only knows how tourists from other countries cope with London!!!
I am now waiting to see if i get another PCN in the post for doing the same thing again yesterday in a different part of London.
This has really affected me you know.
I was terrified to go into the left hand lanes all day in case they were a bus lane. Sometimes they say 'Bus Lane' on the road and other times they dont but but still have double red lines in them. I dont have these lanes where i live so they are alien to me. I nearly caused an accident when my sat nav said turn left. I was in the middle lane but i was too scared to go into the left lane in case it was still a bus lane so i waited till i got to the junction then went left as fast as i could cutting across everyone and getting loads of verbal abuse in the process.
God only knows how tourists from other countries cope with London!!!
14 April 2010, 01:23 PM
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I nearly caused an accident when my sat nav said turn left. I was in the middle lane but i was too scared to go into the left lane in case it was still a bus lane so i waited till i got to the junction then went left as fast as i could cutting across everyone and getting loads of verbal abuse in the process.
God only knows how tourists from other countries cope with London!!!
God only knows how tourists from other countries cope with London!!!
14 April 2010, 02:20 PM
#42
Me and driving are probably like two pieces of different puzzles. I cant imagine being colour blind as well. You will have to come to London with me one day as my passenger.
About 18 months ago i was not in a bus lane in London but a bus decided to pull into the lane i was in and hit my car, spun it round and drove off. I had my daughter sitting on the side that got hit so we were very lucky it wasn't more serious.
I think i may have become too reliant on my Sat nav in London and dont use my eyes to look at whats around me enough.
If i see the words Bus Lane painted in red i am ok but the problem starts when i have passed the painted words. I suppose a clue might be that there is no normal traffic in the lane.
I am always so glad to get home without incident but oddly i dont manage that too often.
About 18 months ago i was not in a bus lane in London but a bus decided to pull into the lane i was in and hit my car, spun it round and drove off. I had my daughter sitting on the side that got hit so we were very lucky it wasn't more serious.
I think i may have become too reliant on my Sat nav in London and dont use my eyes to look at whats around me enough.
If i see the words Bus Lane painted in red i am ok but the problem starts when i have passed the painted words. I suppose a clue might be that there is no normal traffic in the lane.
I am always so glad to get home without incident but oddly i dont manage that too often.
14 April 2010, 05:02 PM
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Sara,
It looks like there was a temprorary restriction on anything other than taxis and buses using the road - irrespective of the bus lane. From the link in Leslie's post:
Please note the following:
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General motor vehicle access to Wilton Road will be prohibited;
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Bus, black taxi, pedestrian and cycle access on Wilton Road will be maintained;
Nothing misleading in the signage - the arrow is simply there to direct traffic around the roadworks. Nothing more, nothing less.
Ask them to evidence that the restriction on use was clearly marked beforehand for traffic. If it wasn't, you should have a very good case.
If, however, there was a big f*ck off sign alerting you to the restrictions, then you should just pay the fine and accept the fact.
Chances are you missed the signs when you entered wilton road.
It looks like there was a temprorary restriction on anything other than taxis and buses using the road - irrespective of the bus lane. From the link in Leslie's post:
Please note the following:
•
General motor vehicle access to Wilton Road will be prohibited;
•
Bus, black taxi, pedestrian and cycle access on Wilton Road will be maintained;
Nothing misleading in the signage - the arrow is simply there to direct traffic around the roadworks. Nothing more, nothing less.
Ask them to evidence that the restriction on use was clearly marked beforehand for traffic. If it wasn't, you should have a very good case.
If, however, there was a big f*ck off sign alerting you to the restrictions, then you should just pay the fine and accept the fact.
Chances are you missed the signs when you entered wilton road.
15 April 2010, 08:55 AM
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Me and driving are probably like two pieces of different puzzles. I cant imagine being colour blind as well. You will have to come to London with me one day as my passenger.
About 18 months ago i was not in a bus lane in London but a bus decided to pull into the lane i was in and hit my car, spun it round and drove off. I had my daughter sitting on the side that got hit so we were very lucky it wasn't more serious.
I think i may have become too reliant on my Sat nav in London and dont use my eyes to look at whats around me enough.
If i see the words Bus Lane painted in red i am ok but the problem starts when i have passed the painted words. I suppose a clue might be that there is no normal traffic in the lane.
I am always so glad to get home without incident but oddly i dont manage that too often.
About 18 months ago i was not in a bus lane in London but a bus decided to pull into the lane i was in and hit my car, spun it round and drove off. I had my daughter sitting on the side that got hit so we were very lucky it wasn't more serious.
I think i may have become too reliant on my Sat nav in London and dont use my eyes to look at whats around me enough.
If i see the words Bus Lane painted in red i am ok but the problem starts when i have passed the painted words. I suppose a clue might be that there is no normal traffic in the lane.
I am always so glad to get home without incident but oddly i dont manage that too often.
Lucky that bus didn't squish you completely!
15 April 2010, 01:32 PM
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I was never able to trace the bus and the bus never reported anything. The driver didn't even realise anything had happened.
15 April 2010, 04:29 PM
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I am starting to agree with you.
I nearly caused an accident when my sat nav said turn left. I was in the middle lane but i was too scared to go into the left lane in case it was still a bus lane so i waited till i got to the junction then went left as fast as i could cutting across everyone and getting loads of verbal abuse in the process.
I nearly caused an accident when my sat nav said turn left. I was in the middle lane but i was too scared to go into the left lane in case it was still a bus lane so i waited till i got to the junction then went left as fast as i could cutting across everyone and getting loads of verbal abuse in the process.
15 April 2010, 08:21 PM
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I had just put on my indicator to turn right, and this black bmw, which had been sitting on my ar$e for about two thirds of the length of narrow road, decided to overtake me
I had to do a full emergency stop. The stupid, stupid tit of a bloke. Lucky for me, I looked in my rear mirror and had a feeling that he was going to do this. It was about 10 yards from a junction too. If I had not looked in my mrror and continued to turn right, I doubt the outcome would have been very good.
15 April 2010, 09:20 PM
#51
Strange you should mention that. Tonight, taking my daughter to the stables. Am pottering along a very narrow road, traffic quite busy as it was a round about chucking out of work time.
I had just put on my indicator to turn right, and this black bmw, which had been sitting on my ar$e for about two thirds of the length of narrow road, decided to overtake me I had to do a full emergency stop.
The stupid, stupid tit of a bloke. Lucky for me, I looked in my rear mirror and had a feeling that he was going to do this. It was about 10 yards from a junction too. If I had not looked in my mrror and continued to turn right, I doubt the outcome would have been very good.
I had just put on my indicator to turn right, and this black bmw, which had been sitting on my ar$e for about two thirds of the length of narrow road, decided to overtake me
I had to do a full emergency stop. The stupid, stupid tit of a bloke. Lucky for me, I looked in my rear mirror and had a feeling that he was going to do this. It was about 10 yards from a junction too. If I had not looked in my mrror and continued to turn right, I doubt the outcome would have been very good.
He was prolly trying to show off because you have a better car than him. I bet he drives a bus for a living
02 May 2010, 10:13 PM
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Wilton Road
Did you get anywhere with resolving this?
I have just had the same thing happen to me. There was definately no signs on the day but since I have been back to Wilton road, signs have magically appeared!
I have just had the same thing happen to me. There was definately no signs on the day but since I have been back to Wilton road, signs have magically appeared!
13 May 2010, 02:48 PM
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18 May 2010, 03:05 PM
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Maybe that is why they haven't emailed back to me. Its the same place mentioned in the paper. It happened at the end of March and sent it back as soon as i got it. More than 10 working days have passed.
If they decide not to do anything about it would they inform me or just leave me hanging on? I dont want to contact them in case they have forgotten to deal with it
If they decide not to do anything about it would they inform me or just leave me hanging on? I dont want to contact them in case they have forgotten to deal with it
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