Matteeboy

Well seeing as you mention it, Matteeboys funeral service just launched...



Stilover - my Astra did similar with 20 less bhp. A great chassis 95% of the time but those damn front wheels were easy to spin when a quick getaway was needed.
Mind you, the Beemer rear wheels like a bit of "action" too - when the tyres had under 100 miles on them, they were spinning like mad. Much better now they are worn in...

Oops - off topic...

I'd have an S3 or a Golf R but I'd love to hire an FRS for a week or so. Same with cars like Evos - seems you can only hire top end supercars or cr4pheaps.

Dream Weaver

I agree fully on the brief blat and destroyer of everything comments, was just arguing against the nonsense "wipe the floor" comment.

In real everyday driving situations most cars in each class are similar when driven by normal folk.

It was an S3 as I know where they live now, I've seen it a few times, the bright blue one with chrome mirrors. I'm not saying I destroyed it, but they were trying to climb in my car's boot with their "I'm in an Audi S3, move over Ford peasant" attitude so when we got from the 40 zone to the 70 dual carriageway I gave it some beans and left them a bit, not by much but by more then zero and I was 3 up as well vs 1 up.

J4CKO

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And she was still embarassed !



















Only joking, no disrespect meant to your motor or your Gran.

stilover

Would it have been the same story if your car was a standard ST?

Would it have been the same story if he'd have had his S3 remapped with the hammer map... 330bhp?

stilover

There were deffo a few dodgy look by some folk. Oh well.

TBH she hated the car. Not cos of how it looked, but because it was Japanese. She was obviously around during the war, and spoke fluent German. Was nearly killed when a German Bomb Bombed her place of work on shift she had off.

Doesn't mind the Germans.

But knowing how the Japanses acted during the war with regards to prisioners, she hates them. So telling her my (then) new car was Japanese.......... The look said it all.

Matteeboy

Wife's (late) Grandad was the same - he fought the Japs and saw some horrific things.

Could never forgive them. Same with the Germans too - was a proud German car owner for many years.

Does the hammer map involve tw4tting the ECU?

ScoobyJawa

So only the Japs were bad but brutal treatment and gassing/murdering millions of Jews was ok by the Gerries

Anyway - thats a separate argument.......

yellowvanman

Therefore all those driving BMW's are Jew murdering ****'s?

Dream Weaver

The point I'm trying to make is that my modded ST is pretty much identical in performance to a std FRS so the comment earlier about an Audi S3 "wiping the floor" with an FRS is what I was aiming at.

If my ST can match a std S3 then an RS will have no issue with it.

ratboy

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Sorry if its sial,but saw this today......Ford?s new RS twins | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express

ScoobyJawa

Almost - actually Jew murdering **** non indicating *****

Matteeboy

Well indicators are an option on BMWs in the very rarely specced "road courtesy" pack. I also includes a sticker saying "apologies for my driving, but what do you expect?"

Mog

That lot gives about 350/360 but consistantly with exhaust/intercooler and improved throttle response with CAIK, the springs are good but the 30/40mm drop is a bit worrying around town.

Mog

paulwrxboro

cheers i will have to remember to fit the mudflaps a little higher
someone on RSoc got 316bhp with only decat and k&n...not bad

ScoobyJawa

Spec'c'57

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Had H & R springs and Miltek Cat-bac fitted today. The ride is 100% better than standard. Its now a smoother ride and looks loads better also. Not been through any town centre's yet tho. Ad for the Miltek. Wow it sound awesome now.

Vtec-Abuser

Interesting row/thread.. lol
Regarding the new RS, as much as I like the car, I just think it's pie eating fetish doesn't do it any favours..
Combined with the rumours about them not making the quoted power and fuelled more by the fact that when put against the stop watch the figures suggest something isn't right. Must of seen about 5 tests now with it struggling to do a sub 14 sec 0-100mph run. Plus when put up againt it's fettled younger brother (Mountune ST with 260bhp) it was also playing second fiddle (untill about 140mph)
It's a real shame though, as I really like the RS and it's road presence is just something else. Plus it does very well as a all rounder which is what a Hot Hatch is all about IMO. Just wish it was a bit quicker because I know if I had one and was having Mountune ST owners rattling past me with a smug grin on their face I would be distaught..
A 400bhp one would be interesting to see, especailly against the clock. Although Dreamscience's (IIRC) demo car which has similar mods only managed to crack a 12 sec 0-100mph run. Which with that power isn't exactly gob smacking!

paulwrxboro

The fact or fiction that cars are not making there 300 bhp was started by evo magazine
one of the mappers said every car they have put on the rollers has made the 300 mark bar one (298 bhp) and some have been over around 305bhp
A modded car can always be faster than a standard car thats why im spending £400 for the extra 40 bhp

im rolling roading my car in a couple of weeks to see what its doing

PhilA

typical SN thread I see.

the White RS evo got a loan of was down on BHP on the RR, yet their own blue one they had as a long termer produced loads of extra torque as std.
it appears some of the earlier cars had a poor ecu map which has now been updated.

I agree in a drag from 0-60 a tuned RS aint going to beat an STI or equivalent simply because AWD is awesome off the line.

However, for all you disbelievers in FWD, all I say is you have to try it to believe how good the RS is.

"ST but it gives a damn good idea of what the RS is like" - erm no. wider track, different diff, different front suspension and geometry setup, different brakes and a different engine and turbo. That's like saying my 99 reg UK turbo gives me a good idea of what the 08 STI is like.

And yeah the RS is a bit of a porker, but it aint as heavy as the new STI hatch.