J4CKO

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You have a point, but may want to rephrase it

The kids school fees for the year could buy a Focus RS.

Stryder

Personally I like the Focus RS. Saw one in the flesh last week and I think it is a brutish looking car, just what it's meant to be. Wings and arches, just as controvental as the Escort was when it was released.

Torque steer is a good thing sometimes. In a way, it's the car letting you know that you are drivng something with a bit of power, much the same when you are correcting the steering with a rwd car when it's trying to gain traction.

If you don't like torque steer, then go get yourself a Fiat Cinqicento!

zip106

What was it Clarkson said.... buy the RS 'if you want people to know how well the tanning salon business is doing..'

bighead

iTrader: (1)

do you not mean a Audi TT
The Rs is a much better car than a hair dryer's toy ...just needs more power and awd

zip106

Nope - he was talking about the Focus RS.... but how many of us think much of what he says is utter bollocks?

I like them, I jus feel too old to have one now

Second to last paragraph.. -
Jeremy Clarkson Ford Focus RS review | Driving - Times Online

bighead

iTrader: (1)

Zip......we are never too old for "fast cars"

Darc174

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This is my mates RS

YouTube - Pumaspeed Ford Focus RS 2009 decat in tunnel awesome noise !!!

360Bhp

darc

zip106

No, not too old for fast cars, but there's 'fast and young' or 'very fast and middle aged'

Fortunately/unfortunately I fall into the latter.

I did the FRS thing 4 years ago

paulwrxboro

if i could afford the 911 id be with you mate
i sad id have a 911 for my 40th i was 40 in dec... maybe for my 43rd

zip106

Glad you're taking it all in jest

I had mine for my 40th last year, wasn't going to but it just sort of happened.
As I've said before, I was all set to put a deposit down on an RS when this bit of Pork came up for sale.

Still like the RS though, and if I could justify a 4th car (and afford one!) I'd possibly have one.

rabbos

Not keen on the go faster stripe

paulwrxboro

well im sure you know you missed out there An RS as a 4th car ! there must be a law against that somewhere



but a great car all the same i had a play with this one the other day another puma speed one must have poped about three times on every gear change http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJugNII9ktg

Mog

Sounds like mine.....

paulwrxboro

what mods have you got mog ? :

Mog

I have the Stage 2 Bluefin, intercooler, Miltek, GGR Air Box with KN filter, HR Springs, Black Wheels.......and clear fog light !!!!!!!

Mog

stilover

Mods sounded good, right up untill you said "Black wheels"

Can't stand these. Not on any car. Personal choice though.

Mog

Oh well................

paulwrxboro

Nice, what will that lot give you ? about 360/70
How do you find the springs ,ride,handeling?

Darc174

iTrader: (13)

yeah his strips are now gone and he has a carbon vinyl wrapped roof, the pumaspeed stickers were put on by pumaspeed as they used it to promote at the autosport show,

darc

Mike_1982

Firstly I haven't driven the new Ford FRS, however I have test driven & owned a few quick cars over the years (R32, S3, Z4M, Clio v6, various gtis). The Subaru or Evo will wipe the floor with all of them - even the Z4M I currently own would struggle! Yes the FRS is quick compared to a Golf Gti, but I personally think it would struggle with an >2007 Audi S3 or new Golf R20. The Evo/Sti is in another league I don’t think its fair to compare the cars. They should be pitched against M3, S4, Cayman S etc.....
Mike

paulwrxboro

The difrence between all the above cars (standard) is is a couple of seconds around most tracks so hardy wipe the floor and nobody is saying the RS is faster than anything else
if you think a well modded RS is an easy target...more fool you

Dream Weaver

PMSL

I recently had a **** in a new shaped Audi S3, 58 plate IIRC, trying to climb into my boot so I gave it some lick and left them easily enough and they were trying hard.

Mine's a 300bhp ST and drives pretty much as the new RS so I doubt your info is totally correct. Depends who is driving as well, speed isn't everything.

There are some tests around of the new Golf R vs RS and they are pretty similar allegedly. Not bad when people reckon AWD is so much better than FWD.

Matteeboy

Audi S3 is actually slightly quicker off the line (to 60 and 100) than an FRS. In fact I think it's still the quickest hot hatch - although the Golf R is about the same.

Focus is quite possibly more "fun" though.

ScoobyJawa

DW - just look at the first 8 words and then realise some people should engage brain before posting (or at least drive the car they are slagging)

stilover

All depends how you drive them. I said before, you can get on the power much sooner in an AWD car when accelerating out of a corner. Where FWD would push wide (power understeer) and a RWD car would power oversteer, an AWD car just grips and slings it round and out of the bend, and down the next straight at a higher speed.

All that is based on a clear traffic free road. In reality, on everyday roads with traffic, most cars (Golf R, FRS, S3 etc) would start at the same time, and get there at the same time.

However, AWD has it place other than outright point to point speed. How many days a year does it rain in Britain? Lots.
Even in my Golf, I'm sick of wheelspinning when exiting a junction in the rain if I want a quick getaway, and if the road is busy and I want to jump into a small gap? AWD would get me there, FWD wheelspinning might not, or make me look like a Boy racer wheel spinning out of a junction.

J4CKO

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I like the Audi but its just so damn "Audi" and send the ****-ometer off the scale, the Ford is liable to be driven by those on a mission as well but is just so rude, with no pretensions, hard not to like it, thuse far its fairly exclusive as well, only seen 2 or 3 of them, looks best in white I reckon. I would like one but its a bit lairy for all occasions, imagine turning up at a funeral in one what you need for funerals is a quiet, sobre black estate car so as not to attract attention but you need to watch that you dont get mistaken for the hearse....

rabbos

There are a lot of A3s dressed up to look like S3s though. I am not saying that's the case, but drawing conclusions from a brief blat should be taken with a large shovel of salt.

And yes I had a stage 3 ST for 3 years. Good, torquey car, but not the destroyer of everything!

It also has a big advantage with such a heavy engine over the front wheels (RS is the same) with regards to reducing wheelspin - making it much more benign with a lead foot.

stilover

Don't know. I turned up at my grans funeral in a Bright Blue STI with Gold wheels.

Jimpreza

I hope the funeral was in Maccy D's car park.

stilover

No. I just refuse to sit in the funeral cars with people crying on. Rather drive myself there and back. Even if at the time I had a Scooby.