EcuTek mapping Vs Open mapping ?
06 January 2010, 12:17 PM
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How odd!!...Newcastle seems to be one of my regular haunts at the mo. Will be back up there next week 
I've lost count at just how many times i've been up there in the last few months 
I've lost count at just how many times i've been up there in the last few months
06 January 2010, 12:25 PM
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Mind you not a lot of road mapping going on in this weather.... we need a dyno cell
Snow has just started to lob it down here.
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06 January 2010, 12:28 PM
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06 January 2010, 12:31 PM
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Take the OP of this thread.. prime example. Should have been a straightforward map on a std (ish) car with a decat.... that was the plan anyway.
Immediately obvious that something wasnt qute right so I discovered a bleed valve had been fitted by prev owner so had to replumb the BCS pipework. Then more logging and discovered a superchip lurking attached to the ecu that needed to be removed, wiring restored and then mapped....
About half have some complications in my experience and require getting hands dirty. It isn't just a plugging in of the laptop, hooking up wideband, det cans and away you go.
06 January 2010, 12:32 PM
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2 a day is a nice number 
I'd have said 3 full remaps in a day in Scotland during the summer wasn't impossible, specially when you get those long long days where it hardly gets pitch black and the weather is nice.
My outlaws are in Ptilochry...lovely in the summer!!
A couple of hours to do some tweaking with enough road testing to make sure all is well then fine but a full and proper remap in that time including sufficient road testing, maybe
I'd have said 3 full remaps in a day in Scotland during the summer wasn't impossible, specially when you get those long long days where it hardly gets pitch black and the weather is nice.
My outlaws are in Ptilochry...lovely in the summer!!
A couple of hours to do some tweaking with enough road testing to make sure all is well then fine but a full and proper remap in that time including sufficient road testing, maybe
06 January 2010, 12:33 PM
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I have not mapped at weekends for years now.
06 January 2010, 12:48 PM
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Well for 'busy full time mappers' you guys sure do plenty talking on here, my afternoon car is now in the workshop so I'm off to do some work !!
06 January 2010, 01:28 PM
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06 January 2010, 11:05 PM
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But you know that the reason for that ecu frying was nothing related to OS but the fact that someone had stolen my laptop so I was forced to use my macbook using windows via parallels (on my own car while awaiting a new laptop) - a slight hiccup in parallels caused a breakdown in communications and ended as it ended. 100% nothing related to OS or Ecutek - purely an operating system and software issue.
only takes that windows update shutting laptop down, flat laptop battery or customer turning ignition off ...
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06 January 2010, 11:10 PM
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That's one of the reasons EcuTek gave me for not allowing me a dealership. I'm already using OS/ECUedit software so they don't trust me, coupled with, I don't have permanent premises to work from so until i do..., and i'm too close geographically to Zen Performance.
Using OS is how i started, being mobile you don't need premises, and my personal/business ethics prevent me from stepping on my good neighbours toes. I don't want to p155 anyone off and certainly not Paul Blamire, he's a genuinely decent bloke!!
So how was Simon allowed a dealership baring in mind he doesn't have premises and is mobile only, and as has been posted on this thread by someone already, he used OS software before EcuTek, plus Sanspeed and CPL are just a stones throw away??
The money EcuTek charges for a dealership 'represents a considerable investment from their dealers' (their words), which i was more than willing make. Are EcuTek so blinkered and up themselves to think that someone would genuinely waste their time with free software when they've just paid thousands for a franchise and the latest commercial kit.
I don't know how long Simon has been an EcuTek dealer so i presume EcuTek didn't have quite so many reasons to say no back then, but even if they said yes now i'd happily tell them where to plug their flash cable.
It's their loss, not mine.
Using OS is how i started, being mobile you don't need premises, and my personal/business ethics prevent me from stepping on my good neighbours toes. I don't want to p155 anyone off and certainly not Paul Blamire, he's a genuinely decent bloke!!
So how was Simon allowed a dealership baring in mind he doesn't have premises and is mobile only, and as has been posted on this thread by someone already, he used OS software before EcuTek, plus Sanspeed and CPL are just a stones throw away??
The money EcuTek charges for a dealership 'represents a considerable investment from their dealers' (their words), which i was more than willing make. Are EcuTek so blinkered and up themselves to think that someone would genuinely waste their time with free software when they've just paid thousands for a franchise and the latest commercial kit.
I don't know how long Simon has been an EcuTek dealer so i presume EcuTek didn't have quite so many reasons to say no back then, but even if they said yes now i'd happily tell them where to plug their flash cable.
It's their loss, not mine.
you seem very bitter.. you were denied.. I wasn't.. end of..
2006 iirc.. and no they haven't changed any criteria..
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06 January 2010, 11:15 PM
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was OS not really intended for use by the end user to tune their own car, not as a way to make money, hence the sw is free.. is the OS community happy with people making money out of their work?
I can't be bothered to go back through the posts but it was said that ecuedit was the only possible software that was developed from stolen ecutek software and that breaks the ecutek security etc.. and that it is not OS.. yet most OS mappers use ecuedit but still call themself OS mappers? and that the developer of ecuedit has been involved in OS developement too?
Simon
I can't be bothered to go back through the posts but it was said that ecuedit was the only possible software that was developed from stolen ecutek software and that breaks the ecutek security etc.. and that it is not OS.. yet most OS mappers use ecuedit but still call themself OS mappers? and that the developer of ecuedit has been involved in OS developement too?
Simon
06 January 2010, 11:17 PM
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Yep no worries, that point has been covered already except.....I assume you were mapping other aftermarket ECU's already before EcuTek as well as using OS software for scoobs....or was it ECUedit??
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06 January 2010, 11:19 PM
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As I have said, I would much rather start with my base map than whatever ecutek map is on there. If there are coming to me from ecutek it kind of implies they are not happy with the service or map from their ecutek dealer (for whatever reason) as after the initial license fee, the map tweak charges are more comparable - so it isnt a cost thing then.
As yet I haven't had a single one of your customers ask me to remap their car Simon - that speaks a lot for your customer service IMO.
Yes, there is a recovery process but I have never had to test it as that has never happened on the countless maps done on my maptops - just that one time on the macbook where parallels on windows blipped and the program was shut down - end of ecu til I got it shbooted and rescued.
Auto updates are switched off on my laptop as I am sure they are on any mappers and only a fool with flash with a very flat battery. Igntion wise - i make it 100% clear NOT to touch and mostly ask them to kindly fold their arms to avoid the temptation to fiddle
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06 January 2010, 11:23 PM
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was OS not really intended for use by the end user to tune their own car, not as a way to make money, hence the sw is free.. is the OS community happy with people making money out of their work?
I can't be bothered to go back through the posts but it was said that ecuedit was the only possible software that was developed from stolen ecutek software and that breaks the ecutek security etc.. and that it is not OS.. yet most OS mappers use ecuedit but still call themself OS mappers? and that the developer of ecuedit has been involved in OS developement too?
Simon
I can't be bothered to go back through the posts but it was said that ecuedit was the only possible software that was developed from stolen ecutek software and that breaks the ecutek security etc.. and that it is not OS.. yet most OS mappers use ecuedit but still call themself OS mappers? and that the developer of ecuedit has been involved in OS developement too?
Simon
You'll find people like myself make donations to OS (RomRaider) just to say thank you in recognition of their frankly brilliant work.
06 January 2010, 11:33 PM
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