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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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as can be seen, yes it is still on

I have left this until I was able to speak to LKR about last months.

I have been asked to drop 2 drivers from the event.

Alex (Supercues son) - he was obviously not ready to drive these
karts. Andy spoke to me on the night and said that in hindsight his
taking part was an error.

Tiny - for 'repeated deliberate dangerous driving'.


There were other drivers involved, I know that & so do LKR.

For next months race I have been told that ANYONE who doesn't
obey the flags WILL be black flagged.


I personally would like to draw a line under it at this point.

I arrange this for everyones enjoyment & I hope the fun continues.
Will everyone on the list please confirm they still want to come,
those who haven't paid, please do so by posers (let me know if a
problem). I will be paying the balance for this on Monday 7th Sept.
If payment is not received, places will be offered to the reserves !!

GeorgeM
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 07:09 AM
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ESKC
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Lakeside Karting

ROUND 3




Arrive & Drive


Monday 21st September at 8.30pm



£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night


Who's in?



1. GeorgeM - paid


2. Arkwright - paid


3. 53WRX Stu - paid


4. Mikef04 - paid


5. Supercue - paid


6. V7SYN - paid


7. Budgie - paid


8. YVM - paid


9. ESB30 - paid


10.E6GRAHAM- paid


11.EVILSTI


12.EVILSTI MATE J


13.E6MATT- paid


14. Madoli - paid


15. BRI4N - paid


16. Adidas - paid


17. Spec'c'57 - paid


18. Nate


19. KevD paid (George use my money )


20.


21.


Reserve 1.

Reserve 2.

Reserve 3.

Full grid again in less then 1 hour !!


TO BE FAIR TO EVERYONE STARTING POSITIONS WILL BE IN REVERSE ORDER TO THE FINISHING POSITIONS FOR JULY.
ANY NEW DRIVERS AT THE BACK!!!


AS BEFORE, GIMME YA MONEY ASAP, BUT BY POSERS PLEASE


THIS IS NOW BOOKED & CONFIRMED FOR 21 DRIVERS

Anyone who can't get cash to me :

cq made out to : G. Margan
send to : Copybase Ltd, 250 London Road, Hadleigh, Essex, SS7 2DE

if you need to transfer to my bank please pm me

ta very

GeorgeM

Provisional "grid"

1 Kevin
2 53WRX
3 Supercue
4 Mikef04
5 Adidas
6 Brian
7 Arkwright
8 V7SYN
9 Yellow Van Man
10 Spec'c'57
11 ESB30
12 KevD
13 GeorgeM
14 Michael
15 Budgie
16 E6GRAHAM
17 EVILSTI
18 EVILSTI Mate J
19 E6MATT
20 MadOli
21 Shazza



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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeM
as can be seen, yes it is still on
Good news, was beginning to wonder.

Originally Posted by GeorgeM
I have been asked to drop 2 drivers from the event.
You know my thoughts on this, but still a shame, especially as this will mean we will loose 3 other drivers.
re. Tiny, I hope this is just for this months event?

Originally Posted by GeorgeM
There were other drivers involved, I know that & so do LKR.
Indeed.

Originally Posted by GeorgeM
For next months race I have been told that ANYONE who doesn't obey the flags WILL be black flagged.
Not a problem with that.
But I hope you have mentioned the erroneous green light, both sides have to get it right.


Originally Posted by GeorgeM
I personally would like to draw a line under it at this point.
I hope so to
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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BY POPULAR DEMAND!!!




ESKC
presents...

Lakeside Karting

ROUND 3




Arrive & Drive


Monday 21st September at 8.30pm



£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night


Who's in?



1. GeorgeM - paid


2. Arkwright - paid


3. 53WRX Stu - paid


4. Supercue - paid


5. V7SYN - paid


6. Budgie - paid


7. YVM - paid


8. ESB30 - paid


9.E6GRAHAM- paid


10.EVILSTI


11.EVILSTI MATE J


12.E6MATT- paid


13. Madoli - paid


14. BRI4N - paid


15. Adidas - paid


16. Spec'c'57 - paid


17. Nate


18. KevD - paid


19.


20.


Reserve 1.

Reserve 2.

Reserve 3.

Awiting payment from:
EVILSTI
EVILSTI Mate J
Nate

couple of spare places now if anyone is interested !!


TO BE FAIR TO EVERYONE STARTING POSITIONS WILL BE IN REVERSE ORDER TO THE FINISHING POSITIONS FOR AUGUST.
ANY NEW DRIVERS AT THE BACK!!!


AS BEFORE, GIMME YA MONEY ASAP, BUT BY POSERS PLEASE


THIS IS NOW BOOKED & CONFIRMED FOR 21 DRIVERS

Anyone who can't get cash to me :

cq made out to : G. Margan
send to : Copybase Ltd, 250 London Road, Hadleigh, Essex, SS7 2DE

if you need to transfer to my bank please pm me

ta very

GeorgeM

Provisional "grid"

1 53WRX
2 Supercue
3 Adidas
4 Brian
5 Nate
6 Arkwright
7 V7SYN
8 Yellow Van Man
9 Spec'c'57
10 ESB30
11 KevD
12 GeorgeM
13 Budgie
14 E6GRAHAM
15 EVILSTI
16 EVILSTI Mate J
17 E6MATT
18 MadOli



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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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Is this an 8:30 session or 9?
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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I'll nab a spot. Will be away for posers so will post you a cheque george.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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BY POPULAR DEMAND!!!





ESKC
presents...

Lakeside Karting

ROUND 3




Arrive & Drive


Monday 21st September at 8.30pm



£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night


Who's in?



1. GeorgeM - paid


2. Arkwright - paid


3. 53WRX Stu - paid


4. Supercue - paid


5. V7SYN - paid


6. Budgie - paid


7. YVM - paid


8. ESB30 - paid


9.E6GRAHAM- paid


10.EVILSTI


11.EVILSTI MATE J


12.E6MATT- paid


13. Madoli - paid


14. BRI4N - paid


15. Adidas - paid


16. Spec'c'57 - paid


17. Nate


18. KevD - paid


19. mneame


20.


Reserve 1.

Reserve 2.

Reserve 3.

Awiting payment from:
EVILSTI
EVILSTI Mate J
Nate

couple of spare places now if anyone is interested !!


TO BE FAIR TO EVERYONE STARTING POSITIONS WILL BE IN REVERSE ORDER TO THE FINISHING POSITIONS FOR AUGUST.
ANY NEW DRIVERS AT THE BACK!!!


AS BEFORE, GIMME YA MONEY ASAP, BUT BY POSERS PLEASE


THIS IS NOW BOOKED & CONFIRMED FOR 21 DRIVERS

Anyone who can't get cash to me :

cq made out to : G. Margan
send to : Copybase Ltd, 250 London Road, Hadleigh, Essex, SS7 2DE

if you need to transfer to my bank please pm me

ta very

GeorgeM

Provisional "grid"

1 53WRX
2 Supercue
3 Adidas
4 Brian
5 Nate
6 Arkwright
7 V7SYN
8 Yellow Van Man
9 Spec'c'57
10 ESB30
11 KevD
12 GeorgeM
13 Budgie
14 E6GRAHAM
15 EVILSTI
16 EVILSTI Mate J
17 E6MATT
18 MadOli




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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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BY POPULAR DEMAND!!!





ESKC
presents...

Lakeside Karting

ROUND 3




Arrive & Drive


Monday 21st September at 8.30pm



£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night


Who's in?



1. GeorgeM - paid


2. Arkwright - paid


3. 53WRX Stu - paid


4. Supercue - paid


5. V7SYN - paid


6. Budgie - paid


7. YVM - paid


8. ESB30 - paid


9.E6GRAHAM- paid


10.EVILSTI


11.EVILSTI MATE J


12.E6MATT- paid


13. Madoli - paid


14. BRI4N - paid


15. Adidas - paid


16. Spec'c'57 - paid


17. Nate


18. KevD - paid


19. mneame


20.


Reserve 1.

Reserve 2.

Reserve 3.

Awiting payment from:
EVILSTI
EVILSTI Mate J
Nate
mneame

couple of spare places now if anyone is interested !!


TO BE FAIR TO EVERYONE STARTING POSITIONS WILL BE IN REVERSE ORDER TO THE FINISHING POSITIONS FOR AUGUST.
ANY NEW DRIVERS AT THE BACK!!!


AS BEFORE, GIMME YA MONEY ASAP, BUT BY POSERS PLEASE


THIS IS NOW BOOKED & CONFIRMED FOR 21 DRIVERS

Anyone who can't get cash to me :

cq made out to : G. Margan
send to : Copybase Ltd, 250 London Road, Hadleigh, Essex, SS7 2DE

if you need to transfer to my bank please pm me

ta very

GeorgeM

Provisional "grid"

1 53WRX
2 Supercue
3 Adidas
4 Brian
5 Nate
6 Arkwright
7 V7SYN
8 Yellow Van Man
9 Spec'c'57
10 ESB30
11 KevD
12 GeorgeM
13 Budgie
14 E6GRAHAM
15 EVILSTI
16 EVILSTI Mate J
17 E6MATT
18 MadOli
19 mneame




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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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Is this an 8:30 session or 9?
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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I'm sure it's 8.30 arrival, but will confirm tomoz !

GeorgeM
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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I have given this careful consideration over the past 24 hours and Personally Supercues son ( Alex ) should of been in no danger on the night if everyone had driven with due care when approaching him. I have raced go karts many times when considerably slower participants have been on the track for the first time, given another chance they soon pick it up.
I have to agree the standard of driving and lack of respect for the rules at the last round was appalling but for the circuit to bear a grudge a couple of weeks later towards one of the drivers in my opinion is very narrow minded and for this reason I choose to withdraw from any further races at Lakeside.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Arkwright
I have given this careful consideration over the past 24 hours and Personally Supercues son ( Alex ) should of been in no danger on the night if everyone had driven with due care when approaching him. I have raced go karts many times when considerably slower participants have been on the track for the first time, given another chance they soon pick it up.
I have to agree the standard of driving and lack of respect for the rules at the last round was appalling but for the circuit to bear a grudge a couple of weeks later towards one of the drivers in my opinion is very narrow minded and for this reason I choose to withdraw from any further races at Lakeside.
Simon, you choice obviously. Drivers have not been banned, & circuit does not bear a grudge. I was asked that neither returned this month. Andy stated to me on the night that he could see that Alex was not ready. He spoke to the marshalls & organisers about this too.
I think if Tiny had done likewise the outcome may have been different. He chose to go without saying anything & has not said anything to me since.

I hope this isn't a case of sheep & shepherd.

Someone has to decide when a driver is driving in a way that endangers others.

If others feel the same let me know & I'll drop the whole thing. It's not worth the bother sorting it.

I'll go back to the kit car meets & leave it at that.

GeorgeM
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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Don`t insult my intelligence with the old sheep and shepherd remarks as I have never insulted you.
I have given my opinion and hopefully you`ll respect it
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 12:32 AM
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BY POPULAR DEMAND!!!





ESKC
presents...

Lakeside Karting

ROUND 3




Arrive & Drive


Monday 21st September at 8.30pm



£25.00 for 30mins
+ £3.00 PAI on the night


Who's in?



1. GeorgeM - paid


2. 53WRX Stu - paid


3. Supercue - paid


4. V7SYN - paid


5. Budgie - paid


6. YVM - paid


7. ESB30 - paid


8.E6GRAHAM- paid


9.EVILSTI


10.EVILSTI MATE J


11.E6MATT- paid


12. Madoli - paid


13. BRI4N - paid


14. Adidas - paid


15. Spec'c'57 - paid


16. Nate


17. KevD - paid


18. mneame


19.


Reserve 1.

Reserve 2.

Reserve 3.

Awiting payment from:
EVILSTI
EVILSTI Mate J
Nate
mneame

couple of spare places now if anyone is interested !!


TO BE FAIR TO EVERYONE STARTING POSITIONS WILL BE IN REVERSE ORDER TO THE FINISHING POSITIONS FOR AUGUST.
ANY NEW DRIVERS AT THE BACK!!!


AS BEFORE, GIMME YA MONEY ASAP, BUT BY POSERS PLEASE


THIS IS NOW BOOKED & CONFIRMED FOR 21 DRIVERS

Anyone who can't get cash to me :

cq made out to : G. Margan
send to : Copybase Ltd, 250 London Road, Hadleigh, Essex, SS7 2DE

if you need to transfer to my bank please pm me

ta very

GeorgeM

Provisional "grid"

1 53WRX
2 Supercue
3 Adidas
4 Brian
5 Nate
6 V7SYN
7 Yellow Van Man
8 Spec'c'57
9 ESB30
10 KevD
11 GeorgeM
12 Budgie
13 E6GRAHAM
14 EVILSTI
15 EVILSTI Mate J
16 E6MATT
17 MadOli
18 mneame




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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Arkwright
I have given this careful consideration over the past 24 hours and Personally Supercues son ( Alex ) should of been in no danger on the night if everyone had driven with due care when approaching him. I have raced go karts many times when considerably slower participants have been on the track for the first time, given another chance they soon pick it up.
I have to agree the standard of driving and lack of respect for the rules at the last round was appalling but for the circuit to bear a grudge a couple of weeks later towards one of the drivers in my opinion is very narrow minded and for this reason I choose to withdraw from any further races at Lakeside.
That's really sad I enjoy seeing you at Karting mate, top fella
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeM
Simon, you choice obviously. Drivers have not been banned, & circuit does not bear a grudge. I was asked that neither returned this month. Andy stated to me on the night that he could see that Alex was not ready. He spoke to the marshalls & organisers about this too.
I think if Tiny had done likewise the outcome may have been different. He chose to go without saying anything & has not said anything to me since.

I hope this isn't a case of sheep & shepherd.

Someone has to decide when a driver is driving in a way that endangers others.

If others feel the same let me know & I'll drop the whole thing. It's not worth the bother sorting it.

I'll go back to the kit car meets & leave it at that.

GeorgeM
I think people have minds of their own.

As long as Supercue is whiter than white and he did the right thing thats ok, I've seen him drive like a ???? on public roads, as some of members do (not all I might add) think that is more dangerous

And did you, George not bash Tiny into the tyres aswell. oh but that fine is it ??

Not saying that Tiny was right. but get a grip FFS
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrs ESC
I think people have minds of their own.

As long as Supercue is whiter than white and he did the right thing thats ok, I've seen him drive like a ???? on public roads, as some of members do (not all I might add) think that is more dangerous

And did you, George not bash Tiny into the tyres aswell. oh but that fine is it ??

Not saying that Tiny was right. but get a grip FFS
TBH WHAT UTTER CRAP !!

Supercue is not whiter than white BUT he did come & talk to me. When people choose to ignore a problem it says a lot about them.

I said that I wanted to draw a line under this but obviously others do not.

BTW, I did not push Tiny into the tyres, however I was rammed twice by him on the start straight, as you weren't there I don't see how you can comment.

The reason for leaving this a couple of weeks before speaking to Lakeside was to let the dust settle. They had considered just stopping us doing this as a group.

I don't want to stop organising this but unless people are willing to give their support, that is what will happen.

As I said before WHO STILL WANTS TO DO THIS ??

GeorgeM
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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No I wasnt there, only going on what a few have told me.

Tiny didnt want me to put anything on here. have had me say so thats it now.

Not nice when things get out of hand is it and things get spoilt. had first hand experience with that.

I sure you're doing a great job at least you are all going and its not left and left.
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrs ESC
I think people have minds of their own.

As long as Supercue is whiter than white and he did the right thing thats ok, I've seen him drive like a ???? on public roads, as some of members do (not all I might add) think that is more dangerous

And did you, George not bash Tiny into the tyres aswell. oh but that fine is it ??

Not saying that Tiny was right. but get a grip FFS
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TBH WHAT UTTER CRAP !!

Supercue is not whiter than white BUT he did come & talk to me. When people choose to ignore a problem it says a lot about them.

I said that I wanted to draw a line under this but obviously others do not.

BTW, I did not push Tiny into the tyres, however I was rammed twice by him on the start straight, as you weren't there I don't see how you can comment.

The reason for leaving this a couple of weeks before speaking to Lakeside was to let the dust settle. They had considered just stopping us doing this as a group.

I don't want to stop organising this but unless people are willing to give their support, that is what will happen.

As I said before WHO STILL WANTS TO DO THIS ??

GeorgeM
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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2. MadOli Confirmed
3. GeorgeM - paid
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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1. Supercue Confirmed
2. MadOli Confirmed
3. GeorgeM - paid
4. 53WRX - Paid
5. BRI4N - Confirmed
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Surely this can be sorted by a simple Extra Briefing for any outlandish driving from the previous session
This is then sorted before the redmist decends for the race

Whilst I wasn't there I am sure there was no malice meant by ANY person driving perhaps just a bit of fun gone a little to far

It would be a shame to see anyone excluded from what was turning into a regular event
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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phil from a neutral point of view as i take neither side, we were ALL warned in the briefing before the race
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Not certain if there are any sides Mike but understand what you say

I just feel that a talk about the previous session before the next one would have probably sorted the issue

Banning someone is always going to leave a bad taste

Just my humble opinion of course
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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i know what your saying phil and perhaps taking sides was a wrong comment
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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i am confirmed as attending
not taking sides or having a go but just a few notes
bad driving should result in a black flag followed by a months ban
that green light on the start finish line needs to go
the marshals are not blameless in this
people should know better than to bring a novice to an ESC karting championship


on a personal note i hope simon changes his mind and still drives this event
and hope tiny will return after the months ban is served
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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Budgie
i am confirmed as attending
not taking sides or having a go but just a few notes
bad driving should result in a black flag followed by a months ban
that green light on the start finish line needs to go
the marshals are not blameless in this
people should know better than to bring a novice to an ESC karting championship


on a personal note i hope simon changes his mind and still drives this event
and hope tiny will return after the months ban is served

All as I asked and stated in the first place.

Green light on the start line should not have been on as only used to start the race.

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sorry george
forgot to add to my post
you are doing a great job in organising this event
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Originally Posted by Mrs ESC
As long as Supercue is whiter than white

Mr 'lovetap' SuperBarge, whiter than white, Oh don't
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