Scoobygirl_Lisa

Well the car is producing that bhp - if people don't believe it is then fine. Turbo seems to be having no problem at all producing that power.

The mapper is Jonny Armstrong @ Ai Autosport (as on dyno printout). He is, in mine(and Neils) opinion, the best mapper out there.

Gearbox is a 5 speed ppg.

SubaruDude

I reckon the problem is here that no-one, ever, anywhere have managed 679bhp on a GT35 especially on a 2liter. Dyno printouts can be "adjusted" quite easily to show whatevver bhp the customer wants to see or believe. Your (and Neils) opinion that he's the best mapper out there means nothing. The fact that no-one, ever, anywhere has blown up more Subarus on his rolling road does however speak volumes.

Scoobygirl_Lisa

Whatever you want to think mate. As I've said, perhaps jealousy?

neil.p1

Well you tell me the name of this person that Jonny has built and mapped there car and it blew up on the rollers. As far as I am aware one car has blown up on the rollers but Jonny had never touched it and it was in for a power run. At the end of the day that is fine if you'd don't believe me, but just cause you have not heard of it does not make it not possable. Back to topic this is about gearboxs not my car.

SubaruDude

Did Matt Clarke not build your engine though? You believe what you prefer as no-one ever will convince you otherwise. Whats the weather like on your planet matey?

neil.p1

Built my block so what Jonny asembled the rest and mapped the car. What is it too you at least have the ***** to tell me your name cause you seem to know me and your just hiding behind a user name and posting on a topic that has no relivants to do with you

Scoobygirl_Lisa

@subarudude I don't know what your problem is matey but I suggest that if you have nothing constructive to add to this conversation that you butt out.

Oh and who exactly are you? You on scooby ireland?

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

The facts of the matter is, that turbo will not produce that power FACT!!!!

Some of the best known Scoobies in the country tuned by the best tuners in the country with very similar specs aren't getting anywhere near those figures so please tell us your secret.

Infact several well known builds with GT40R's arent getting those figures either.

Get your ****, your cars **** over here and come up against proven cars and drivers. I'll put money on the fact you'll get your **** kicked by cars pushing less power than your "680bhp"

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Hmmm ok, well there is only one way to do this and thats take the car to a totally different rolling road and run it there
Still I have to agree with Stevebt, even garratt say it wont run more than 600bhp, and they designed and built it
Actually I will also add, if your running 680bhp with a good 500lb ft of torque, the PPG gearbox should be in bits by now, they aint exactly brill

Tony

neil.p1

Gobstopper Specs
Power = 850 bhp
Weight = 1120 kgs
Intended use: street/track/hill climbs/drag strip/time attack

Body
WRC steel arches WRC front and rear bumpers
WRC carbon rear spoiler
FIA T45 multi point welded in roll cage
STi alloy bonnet with RCMS heat extraction vents and gas struts
Heated front screen
WRC non heated lightweight rear screen

Engine
2.0Litre closed deck subaru block
RCMS extreme arrow rods
RCMS 75mm steel crankshaft
RCMS omega flat top pistons (coated) compression ratio 9.5:1
V4 STi cylinder heads with WRC/RCMS O-ring head gaskets and gas rings
One piece Nimonic exhaust valves
One piece stainless inlet valves
RCMS uprated valve springs
Plasma nitrided titanium spring caps
WRC main and big end bearings
WRC R-Profile high wrap cam belt system
RCMS modified oil pump to suit R-Profile belt
WRC S10 inlet manifold
RCMS eight injector kit
RCMS 72mm throttle body
RCMS 5.5 litre alloy sump
WRC short runner exhaust manifold
Garret GT 35-40 turbo with speed sensor
K&N air filter with RCMS 100mm inlet trumpet
RCMS high flow intercooler with twin tube core
70mm stainless steel intercooler pipe work

Electronics
M800 Motec ECU with traction control,nitrous control,anti-lag
paddle shift control,and full engine management control and data login
Motec dash with data login
Defi gauges for turbo,oil,fuel pressure

Interior
FIA carbon kevlar Recaro seats
FIA Sabelt 6-point harness

Transmission
R180 STi rear axle 3.9:1 cwp and plated Modena LSD differential
GKN rally drive shafts front and rear
Torque line carbon fibre propshaft
Six speed subaru gearbox casing modified for sequential housing
Six speed Modena gear kit
Subaru 3.9:1 front cwp
RCMS sequential system
RCMS paddle shift system
Plated centre diff with 1:1 uprated output Modena gears
Plated front Modena differential

Fuel System
FIA spec 26 litre rubber/kevlar bag tank in aluminium cover
Twin Bosch fuel pumps (200 litre per pump)
-8 Goodrich fuel feed pipe
-6 Goodrich fuel return pipe
-6 fuel cooler with cooling fan on return
RCMS 8 injector distribution block
2x SX fuel regulators running at 4 bar static pressure

Suspension
WRC spec EXE-TC fully adjustable dampers W/ High- And Low-Speed Bump And Rebound Adjustment
350-Pound Front Springs And 325-Pound Rears
STi Rose jointed rear lateral links
STi Rose jointed rear trailing links
EXE-TC bottom rose jointed upright bushes
STi alloy front arms (polished)
Sti Quick-Steer Steering Rack
Rcms Adjustable Rose Jointed Arms Front And Rear
Rcms Fully Adjustable Top Mounts

Other
WRC roller bearing single piece steering column
Momo suede steering wheel
Nitrous
NX full wet system
121bs carbon bottle with heater jacket
High flow shark nozzle
Motec auto control or driver manual system
Adjustable from +35bhp to +400bhp

Clutch
RCMS spec triple plate alloy cover OS Giken clutch and flywheel
RCMS hydraulic light pressure system
Quick release dry brake fluid connection

Brakes
AP 355mm six pot front (track and road use)
AP 304mm four pot front (drag strip use)
AP 290mm four pot rear with floating discs
DS3000 Racing Pads
RCMS hydraulic carbon handbrake
-3 stainless steel goodrich pipe work and fittings
Bias Pedal Box With Dash-Mounted Adjuster
Quick Change Brake Bias Adjuster On Center Console
Quick-Release Dry Brake Fluid Connection

Wheels
Road/Track 8.5x18 Dymag Carbon/Magnesium Alloys
245/40-18 Toyo R888 Tires
Drag strip use 15x8 spun alloy 3 piece rims
8.5x18 Dymag Carbon/Magnesium Alloys
245/40-18 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup And Toyo R888 Tires

neil.p1

thats why i am asking how strong a 6 soeed is lol having problems with my gearbox smart ****

neil.p1

by the way folks this a race fuel map not sul. your now questing roger clarks car and its capabilities and even what his website advertising of what his products do. thats what makes it funny. sorry i even bothered asking advice cause quite clearly yous know nothing

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

The 6 speeds are very strong, hence why people with 500+bhp run them
And have you seen the graph on rcm's website for the gobstopper?

http://www.rogerclarkmotorsport.co.u...ower_graph.png

605bhp without nos (and I think they will be using race fuel for that, but its a damn fast car )

Tony

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

OK So you've posted the Gobstopper spec up, well done.

But that is not YOUR car is it!!!


I have no doubt whatsoever that their car and yours is worlds apart and they are not running a GT35 they are Running a GT4094 with Nitrous. Either that or they've taken a step backward since I was talking to their mapper (Dave Rowe) in the pits at Brands a couple of weeks ago.

neil.p1

i know my car and theirs is no where near same car and i bet you that graph is the power at the wheels not the engine like mine so add on another 100bhp for transmission loss and there car will be over 700 bhp i put there car up too show you what a gt 35 is capable not what my is like. yes they are now running a gt 40 but are getting over 900bhp. all of roger clark graph is at the wheels not engine

taken from roger clark
The Gobstopper - Specification
View a graph of the power figures at the wheels, with and without Nitrous, for the RCM Gobstopper, add 80-100 BHP for the power at the flywheel. © 2009 Roger Clark Motorsport Ltd. | Terms & conditions of service | About RCM | RCM Team | RCM Tour |

neil.p1

i know what my car is and has produced and is right at the limit. please do not come and tell me other wise and call me a liar i think that is highly rude this is why i have never posted anything about my car on here before because if yous can not understand it. it cant be done. also please could you get your facts right before you post anything ALL ROGER CLARK DYNOS ARE AT THE WHEELS NOT ENGINE

neil.p1

stumped now are we as you now realize you have just been looking at things that you have had no clue off i have actually found a couple more cars in america running 700 +bhp on gt 35.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Do you really want people to **** on your bonfire?
Yank cars are 2.5ltr, not 2ltr so they flow differently.

Tony

neil.p1

Well these ones are 2.2 and one at 2.5. But you's said you have never heard of a gt 35 doing that just pointing out that there is.

bigandymac

i believe lisa is his other half.
good figures if accurate. and congrats neil....just keep it between the hedges this time mate.......
only problem is as a lot of local fellas over here found out to their cost AI is not the best of mappers and resulted in numerous cars suffering. all led to excessive expense for some to put their cars right.

que..... can the rr set up be "adjusted" to give better results or is there a fail safe to prevent this??

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

The manufacture quotes max 600bhp, and dont look at yank sites, they dont half do things differently to us like our mile is longer than theirs, but they still call it a mile
We stick with ours, they stick with theirs, your best bet is to bring it over on a rolling road day/shootout and run it when other cars are there
And as for rolling roads, I believe they can reduce the drag? to give higher figures.

Tony

Scoobygirl_Lisa

@ andymac - yup, i'm neils other half as you know. You also know what the car is and that the figures are accurate as will be proved by drag times next month.

@tony - these figures are accurate. As andymac said I'm Neils other half and know exactly the time and money that has gone into this car and the parts used so I can categorically state that the car is producing that power and that nothing has been altered.

This is a drag car - if we said it was producing more bhp than it actually is then it would be shown up pretty quickly on the strip. lol. What exactly would be the point in that. As I've said, car will be at bishopscourt next month. See times if you don't believe power output.

And can everyone not actually offering advice about the gearbox please vacate this thead as you're not helping and it's not necessary. I've already complained about a certain reply. Just because you can't get your head around power figures does not give you the right to say they are wrong.

And also as previously stated, roger clark was using a 35 before he upgraded and he got power figure of 700+ without NOS. That alone shows that turbo is capable of this. Extensive research was done with the help of Ollie Clark when deciding on the parts for this car. So if you are a more accomplished engine tuner than roger clarke motorsport and Ai Autosprt then perhaps you are more at liberty to be involved in this discussion. But even if you were, it does not mean you are GOD when it comes to these things.

Rant over.

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

Neil I've anwered your PM, hopefully you'll understand where I am coming from.

Also what spec is your 35R, is it a 3540 or a 3542 and what housing are you running?
0.63, 0.82 or the 1.06?

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

As I stated I run a 6 speed box with absolutely no issues. I don't know what power mine is running since its last tweak but its more than my sig says. sleepersy has broke a 6speed box with 620bhp and has bought a special box??? Its up to you?? 6 speed cheap, uprated box expensive

Scoobygirl_Lisa

Oh, and one more thing.

This engine is identical to Roger Clark's engine, bar the valves and a few minor things. We've went a slightly different route. He has now upgraded to a 40 but was running a 35 and getting similar power figures to ours. And I don't see how you can dispute the power figures accomplished by their gobstopper car. Are you suggesting that they are inaccurate? Noone seems to want to reply to this specific point. RCM were using exactly the same turbo as us and getting similar figures. This shows the turbo is capable of producing those figures reardless of what you think.

@daz - If you're such good mates with Ollie Clark ask him and he'll tell you the same thing.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

Typical woman, can't shut up

SubaruDude

I will hold my tounge until you have run the 1\4 mile. If your bhp claims are correct a high 9 or low 10 is surely the expected time.
This is the same car that ran 410bhp on standard 440 injectors!
The same car that at 500 plus bhp ran high 12s
Im really looking forward to your timed runs as the truth will emerge. When you make bhp claims like you have matey you have to back them up with results not dyno printouts from your chums.

V5RLTD

iTrader: (5)

Didnt you just say it was all off topic? Steve replies with gearbox info, and you drag it up again?

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

I was having a look at my graph and my pickup per 1000rpm is 17mph where as yours is 11mph ???

neil.p1

cheers stevie thats sort of things i am after.
best time i have ran to date is 11.6 actually at 500 bhp just got the dog box in too. whats your proper name subaru dude