Paul666

The reason mine failed was the issues with the rev limiter set up, leaning off the engine. It was like hitting a brick wall when the limiter came in, the seatbelt locked. I went from a UK Classic to the Hatch and the power curve is a lot flatter and it pulls clean to the limit. Everything else I've driven started to drop power before the limit, not this. Mine failed as the re-flash came out and after the rebuild & re-flash is was a lot softer.

jpscoobster

What are these rev/limit alarms ?

scoobyboy

it is only a small amount of sti's in a certain vin range that are affected by the ring land failure and if you have a ppp kit fitted your not affected at all.

Mog

I think those people with 330s engine failures will disagree as they are basically ppp kit and extras.

Mog

rob84

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PPP Isnt safe either or the 330s

scooby L

It's an alarm (& red light) that's driver adjusted.

Mine's set a 6.5k, some set it lower, some higher.

It's only an alarm, not a limiter (so you can still rev past it if u need to)

scooby L

Bought June 2008 ex demo with 4k miles, now 24k. no problems

a. Shell optimax/Tesco 99
b. Totally standard mechanics
c. Commuter car (30 each way)
d. 60% M, 30% A, 10% B
e. Castrol GTX magnatec 5w 30w
f. s on motorways, s# the rest of the time (just drives smoother on s#)

mikepaul

Ghosh, the Focus RS has forged pistons why not the similar price Sti Hatch ?

Even my Honda Accord Type R had forged pistons (the Civic Type R did not).

If i remember the Subaru STi v5 import had forged pistons.

are we being short changed ?

jsfb

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Well second engine failure, first descibed a few posts back. Second failure is a big end. IM have agreed to a new short block after some convincing. So thats two failures in 17k, which is just ridiculous. Trying to get the dealer to buy it back or extend the warrenty if they dont, going to go down the legal route should be intresting to see IM and the dealer in court trying to defend these engines as fit for purpose. Last subaru i ever buy even getting the hire car was a pain in the ****.

The Trooper 1815

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All the parts should have a Three Year Watrranty from the day they are fitted. Does not help with your woeful experience either.

PeeVee

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Not true unfortunately...

A faulty part replaced whilst the car is under manufactures warranty, carries the balance of the vehicles warranty & does not have it's own seperate one

speedking

And there's always the unfair wear and tear get-out clause as well

SunnySideUp

Thankfully, this is very rare.

I'm all for taking the big boys to court (I do it myself) - but, they are fixing it for you ... a court will not get you anything more than to re-instate you into the position you would have been in if the fault didn't occur. And Subaru are doing just that.

I would like to see them offer you a free extended warranty as a gesture of good will ..... are you ragging the **** off it, or driving it gently (remember it needs running in).

scooby L

You've been very unlucky

Just out of interest, what would have been a "normal" outing in the STI?

Commuter or weekend toy?

jsfb

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With regards to the court i think you will find that they can force the dealer to take the car back. Luckly enough one of my work mates rejected a BMW a few years ago through the courts, so have a good idea of whats involved.

Subaru are not fixing the problem they are just putting another short block in, i have no confidence that the new block is going to be any better than the last, have spoken to someone who has went through 3 blocks now.

Car is driven quite sensibly 10 miles to work and back every friday, 60 mile run once or twice a month on the A1(covered in speed traps). I have a 10 month old baby and my wife is 20 weeks pregnant so no ragging it here. Never been near a track. Mostly driving in sport mode as i dont like I mode, always filled with V power i have the reward points to prove that.

This is my fourth subaru and never had any problems with the others.

scooby L

Sounds like they missed that fact the big ends took a beating on the 1st failure.

Rebuilt it "in a week" as you said.. but not 100%

Since then no amount of careful driving would put off the inevitable failure.

Real bad luck, but 2nd failure was due to your dealer not checking and replacing all the bearings imho

scooby L

Holy cow mate, good luck with that!

Mine will be 16 months apart and that's plenty close enough

jsfb

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IM implied the 2nd failure was the dealers fault, not convinced the dealer is pretty good.

Expecting the kids to be a nightmare, hard enough the now. We moved down to the borders and the wife got pregnant the day we moved in, no problems with kids before the move so i am sure it was the bloody milk man.

Simon C

Ah the old christen every room in the new house and then blame the milkman routine

Congratulations

scooby L

No surprise there... That's exactly the angle they will pursue

urban

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****

I was looking at a 330S today and dealer was quite open and honest about the failures
He said that they've had quite a few failures on hatches and even after ecu flash
Hasn't had any 330S back but said that they haven't sold that many in comparison

superstar1

To be honest, i quite like the look of the hatch, but if i had the money to buy one i think i would be going to Litchfield and buying JDM.
Would'nt bother with UK, I just feel like we are being short changed and ripped off just to satisfy the EU

rb5 286

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YUP MINES GONE

7500 miles

started puffing smoke out the exhaust a week ago, lightly, then at the w/e i checked oil which was very low so topped up with 1.5 litres

come monday billowing white smoke from the exhaust on start up and also a pinking/det sound on higher revs, particular 4th gear on full boost, switched mode to (I) and poodled home. parked up and called Subaru Assist


car collected and at AMC in chelmsford who have informed me Subaru UK have said that due to a cat back non standard exhaust the warranty is invalid

report is that compression on 2 & 3 is low, indication first stages of the ringland failure
(basically I caught it before lack of oil resulted in bearings and all hell breakign loose internally)


Spoken with IM and waiting a call back as I advised them that I have not removed the cats like they think I have.

i reckon i would have the excuse of driven to hard if the exhaust was still standard like many others of you have been given.

rb5 286

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completely wrong I'm afraid, its happening across the entire range of subaru's with 2.5's, outback, foresters, impreza's and in the US they have officially made a ecall


but not here in the uk, they are even looking into resolving the problem with the pistons it seems!!

gtisid

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i was advised by amc mechanic the other day that the police scooby was in for its 3 rd engine!!! all down to ringland failiure and they were installing cosworth pistons, this car has been highly tuned too. Think you may struggle though as the salesmen seem to deny all knowledge of there being a fault with the 2.5. I think it maybe high time to get some sort of petition going as it worked with toyota costing them millions to rectify their problems. Maybe get someone like the AA on subaru owners side and get this sorted and get them to do a recall as imagine spending all that dough to be told some bull**** story about a decat exhaust!!!

dont think i will be upgrading to a 2.5 sti that is for sure.....maybe an evo

rb5 286

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I have seriously lost all faith in the car

Focus RS is looking more desirable every passing hour lol

rb5 286

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I have seriously lost all faith in the car

Focus RS is looking more desirable every passing hour lol

The Trooper 1815

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My mate had his Vectra serviced recently and asked about the Cam Belt. The garage said it's not due for another 18,000 miles, he's on 82,000 so it was due at 100,000 miles.

Two weeks later the belt went and the quote for the engine was £2,500 . Any way he argues the toss with the Vauxhall gagre who say they will meet him half way. No chance he says as you recommended leaving the belts.

He contacted VOSA who said they would approach Vauxhall UK about a potential fault across the range as they had recieved other complaints. He went to the garage and told them what was happening. He had a call from Vauxhall UK who said there was no need for VOSA to get involved and they would like him to come to the garage and discuss the engine rebuild .

Any option may help

Perhaps it's petition time to Subaru UK and get it on the Subaru Twitter and Facebook pages.

urban

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How about we start a new thread and call it
"2008-2010 2.5ltr Engine Failures"
In here we do something like the yanks did

Date bought
Mileage
Date of failure
Mileage
Outcome


If VOSA needed to get involved then we'll have lots of information for them

T5NYW

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Great Idea and then its Facts and not opinions

my mate may be interested

Tony