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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
Tut - play nicely please

We were

At least... I was.....
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
We were

At least... I was.....
We were ...honest guv
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by eggsburt nobacon
Puff, don't you reckon it might be an idea to get rid of at least some of the whole page of stickies about the infraction system in Policy now? It's looks sort of silly
The information contained within still stands and I'm sure someone will come up with a revised Ts&Cs as mentioned previously in this thread & then I'm sure they will be superfluous & can be removed. Until then...
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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Thanks lads

You can always use the Fight Club for a bit of no-holds barred verbal sparing - you're both Access All Areas
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
The information contained within still stands and I'm sure someone will come up with a revised Ts&Cs as mentioned previously in this thread & then I'm sure they will be superfluous & can be removed. Until then...
You want me to shut up until then don't you?

I know you do
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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I still cannot get my head around a system that puts the power to infract only into the hands of those who are prepared to pay for the ability.

Until the infraction system goes completely, you'll never have the forum you once had, in my opinion.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
Thanks lads

You can always use the Fight Club for a bit of no-holds barred verbal sparing - you're both Access All Areas
The only difference would be that we would not need to start posts with "With all due respect" and end with "Best Regards"




Moving back to the thread...

It never occurred to me to target someone who upsets you by finding their other posts and infracting them until you ban the person. I think I must be too honest.

Given this, then I think if it is possible to have 2 or more infraction requests to cause an infraction would be a good idea. The amount of effort required to have two personal accounts just for this reason would put off all but the most determined and removing the PRIMARY account of an abuser would be a good way of stopping this (t&c's would need a line stating that abuse of the self-moderation system would result in membership removal without refund)
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
I still cannot get my head around a system that puts the power to infract only into the hands of those who are prepared to pay for the ability.

Until the infraction system goes completely, you'll never have the forum you once had, in my opinion.

Tel

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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by eggsburt nobacon
You want me to shut up until then don't you?

I know you do

On the day the new Ts&Cs go up, I will go & delete them myself - if not, bother me stupid
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
Tel

I've never paid m8

Yes but you're spethial


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I don't know if its been mentioned before, but what was wrong with the reporting bad posts? Now i know on the shear scale of posts per day will be pretty high due to number of members, but could the mods not then issue an infraction of sorts, if its is deemed racist, abusive or obscene etc?
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ronjeramy
I don't know if its been mentioned before, but what was wrong with the reporting bad posts? Now i know on the shear scale of posts per day will be pretty high due to number of members, but could the mods not then issue an infraction of sorts, if its is deemed racist, abusive or obscene etc?
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I agree. Let the moderators moderate. If Stu is happy to give them the support and power they need, rather than dictating what he and he alone deems fit, then why can't that work?
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Is it just perceived power thing, then?
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
I agree. Let the moderators moderate. If Stu is happy to give them the support and power they need, rather than dictating what he and he alone deems fit, then why can't that work?
It comes down to the sheer volume of workload Tel.

Although I agree that under the circumstances you have outlined it would be much easier.

I'm not sure of the mechanics of it, but I wonder if it would be possible for a user to "issue" an infraction, but that infraction only goes "live" with consent from one of the moderators?

To me that would be an ideal compromise. If its justified, the infraction is given, if its not justified then its not. Would pretty much remove 90% of the "unjust" threads in poilicy,, and would cut out people infracting for spurious and or "agenda" reasons.

Mods would of course be able to infract in isolation.
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
On the day the new Ts&Cs go up, I will go & delete them myself - if not, bother me stupid
Don't call me stupid

Getting back to whether or not the infraction system is any good, was abused, and Kieran's point of never having falling victim to it. I would just like to say that I was infracted for a post made two years before the infraction system was even inbloodyvented. Make of that what you will?
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Maybe we should keep it after all
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
The only difference would be that we would not need to start posts with "With all due respect" and end with "Best Regards"




Moving back to the thread...

It never occurred to me to target someone who upsets you by finding their other posts and infracting them until you ban the person. I think I must be too honest.

Given this, then I think if it is possible to have 2 or more infraction requests to cause an infraction would be a good idea. The amount of effort required to have two personal accounts just for this reason would put off all but the most determined and removing the PRIMARY account of an abuser would be a good way of stopping this (t&c's would need a line stating that abuse of the self-moderation system would result in membership removal without refund)
I'd best just quote this, so I can take the credit. You cheeky spud

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Originally Posted by Devildog
It comes down to the sheer volume of workload Tel.

Although I agree that under the circumstances you have outlined it would be much easier.

I'm not sure of the mechanics of it, but I wonder if it would be possible for a user to "issue" an infraction, but that infraction only goes "live" with consent from one of the moderators?
To me that would be an ideal compromise. If its justified, the infraction is given, if its not justified then its not. Would pretty much remove 90% of the "unjust" threads in poilicy,, and would cut out people infracting for spurious and or "agenda" reasons.

Mods would of course be able to infract in isolation.
Isn't that effectly a RTM then ?
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Leslie, stick up for me you loon, you should be shouting for the weturn of kawl
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Dear Stu,

Can we please, please have Karl227 back. Eggsburt is a pure idiot. Karl is a very sensible, funny, considerate poster.

Yours in earnest

L x

How's that
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Originally Posted by eggsburt nobacon
Leslie, stick up for me you loon, you should be shouting for the weturn of kawl
Not on this thread...
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
Not on this thread...
Too late
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Originally Posted by phil
Isn't that effectly a RTM then ?
I thought about that, but I believe they differ in that RTM's are (or should be) there for posts that merit significant editing or deletion - ****, spam, serious verbal abuse, etc, etc,

Whereas infractions are (or should be) more a slap on the wrist for users which can result in a ban if the poster continues to cross the line. so many strikes and your out, rather than the RTM system for posts that require urgent moderator intervention.

Of course, where that line is drawn is subjective, hence the requirement to have someone who fully understands the terms and conditions to rubber stamp the infraction.


Just throwing some more thoughts in
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Dear Stu,

Can we please, please have Karl227 back. Eggsburt is a pure idiot. Karl is a very sensible, funny, considerate poster.

Yours in earnest

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How's that
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