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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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I agree with steve to a point here.
Every bike i have came across in my Car has always tried to overtake me and nearly caused a few accidents by undertaking etc, even thogh they were doing 70-80.

Maybe a scoob is like a red rag to a bull, and they have to prove something.

I know that most bikes will leave my car for dead but do they have to prove it every time.

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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bluenosewrx
I agree with steve to a point here.
Every bike i have came across in my Car has always tried to overtake me and nearly caused a few accidents by undertaking etc, even thogh they were doing 70-80.

Maybe a scoob is like a red rag to a bull, and they have to prove something.

I know that most bikes will leave my car for dead but do they have to prove it every time.

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Of course ! being on a bike can be boring, no-one wants to play,playin with other bikes can be dangerous,more so than with a car and is a rare opportunity,so when i come across a scoob/evo/m5 etc, im hopin they will play,no point in playing with a 1.4 escort !

get over yaself, ya drive a fast car so why not take the bait and play,make their/my day !
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rig

get over yaself, ya drive a fast car so why not take the bait and play,make their/my day !
just cause some people have fast cars it dosent mean they have to drive them fast, they might have more sense than to drive like a plonk on a public road
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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YZF-R1 180bhp weighs 177kg. Errrrrm think he'll need a hell of a lot more than 500bhp in his scooby. This thread has to be a joke?
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 01:15 AM
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I think you need to experiance both before you can make a valid comment. I can only go off my experiances and i know that my bike is a hell of a lot quicker than my car and i think that i am a better driver than i am a rider or at least take more risks in than car. When i'm on my bike i will play with cars and always respect the evo/scooby/M3or5s that i come across and if i cannot beat them then i will give em a wave and leave em alone. I dont bother with the barryboys 1.4 Halfords speacial waste of fuel. My suggestion would be go and try a big bike then you will understand just how fast they really are.
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by The Rig
Of course ! being on a bike can be boring, no-one wants to play,playin with other bikes can be dangerous,more so than with a car and is a rare opportunity,so when i come across a scoob/evo/m5 etc, im hopin they will play,no point in playing with a 1.4 escort !

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Well now it makes sense Why didn't someone just say that in the 1st place instead of trying to state the obvious on how quick some bikes are

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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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well thats one way to get all the gayboy-leather-wearing-bandits out into one threa steve
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
well thats one way to get all the gayboy-leather-wearing-bandits out into one threa steve
Well that makes sense
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Cmon now! On a racetrack maybe, not a real world road! I've seen bikers wobbling at 50mph on bends ...

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... a good rider will take a sweeping bend at 130+ with ease,not me mind ha ha, maybe 110
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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I can see what you mean on a dead straight, smooth piece of asphalt ... add in some bumps, a bend or two, bit of wind & rain & let's see how he'd get on.

I'll always give bikes some stick. If they get lucky they can get away from me

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YZF-R1 180bhp weighs 177kg. Errrrrm think he'll need a hell of a lot more than 500bhp in his scooby. This thread has to be a joke?
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Cmon now! On a racetrack maybe, not a real world road! I've seen bikers wobbling at 50mph on bends ...

TX.
seriously, i hate them too, make me look/feel like a novice !
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Right you bloody shower lets clear this up

Having rode big (ish) bikes since 1991 i can compare to a high performance car. Admittedly i have not rode a big capacity sportsbike for a while since last night when a buddy let me have ago of his blade.

What i will say is this.


Conditions are everything - a twisty 'B' road and a car and bike are more evenly matched especially as a high performance car has (i wont say better) more exploitable grip, quicker stopping and the ability to change direction at speed better than a big bike.

It is imo easier to get near the limit of a car especially something like a Subaru which makes average numpties like me feel like Schumacher.
To get a bike anywhere near its limits you have to be a bit special and the margin for error is a lot and i mean a lot narrower.

However once those roads open a bit you would not stand a chance on acceleration (if a big bike is gunning it)

I have yet to drive a car that has scared me (yet) yet this Blade rearranged my mind on how quick something can accelerate and i'll admit riding a 150bhp bike i feckin' s**t myself.

yes there are 500bhp+ Scooby monsters that narrow the gap even more but the money that are normally thrown into these are astounding. You can buy a decent bike for 3 grand which will do a standing quarter in 10.5 seconds not that on the road that means anything.

Yes cars come close if the circumstance are right, i.e. twisty roads, tracks but when those straights open out just a bit then unless you've access to some serious tackle - Veyron, Zonda, LP640 and then only when the speeds get silly would you have any sort of chance.

And it all comes down to ***** - and lets face it most bikers think the're Carl Fogarty


Having rode a Blade last night now you might call me soft (ok i am) but after i got off for a minute i thought these things shouldn't be allowed on the road.

Big Bikes - mental!!!

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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Personally I think the 'proving yourself' idea is most likely all in the original poster's mind.

Perhaps the biker wanted to see what a reasonably nippy car could do? Maybe he wasn't concentrating? Maybe he was a crap rider? Maybe he just couldn't be bothered? Who knows?

What I do know is that I have more fun and a greater sensation of speed riding my GS than I do in my 996 (twin turbo- hehehehe ) which pushes out nearly 500bhp. It might not be empirically quicker but it sure as hell gets the adrenaline rushing faster.

Face facts- cage driving is for people with no cojones.
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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An old GS Suzuki - bloody hell they're getting on a bit aren't they?

Agree though even small bikes give a bigger rush because your not cocooned in a ton and a half of steel
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
An old GS Suzuki - bloody hell they're getting on a bit aren't they?

Agree though even small bikes give a bigger rush because your not cocooned in a ton and a half of steel
BMW 1150GS. Only downside with it is people might think you're a wannabe nancy boy McBorman long way rounder
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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look...

YouTube - Race vs Bike
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YouTube - Impreza STI vs RR600
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YouTube - WRX STI vs BIKE
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YouTube - Impreza STI and R750
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Those videos prove nothing.

I regularly overtake numerous bikes on the Nurburgring. All it means is that the people riding them are either

a>taking it easy and riding within their limits

or

b>numpties


I would challenge any of the rather sad cage only brigade on here to get on a bike and outrun a 1.8 Vectra- straight line or corners you would be toast.

What you people don't seem to realise is that getting out there on 2 wheels takes more ***** than you can ever imagine.
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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getting out there on 2 wheels takes more ***** than you can ever imagine.
do you mean less brains than we could ever imagine
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by madisonmonkey
do you mean less brains than we could ever imagine
Your not probably short of the mark there

To ride a big superbike fast on the road i think you need ***** like watermelons and a mental state like Gazza


I'm showing my old age here i've turned into a wuss
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by madisonmonkey
do you mean less brains than we could ever imagine
Lack of imagination certainly helps. Brains you need in order to concentrate far beyond the ability of your average cager.
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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I just wouldn't fancy putting my life in the hands of every other idiot on the road......and you can't fall off a car
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by madisonmonkey
I just wouldn't fancy putting my life in the hands of every other idiot on the road......
See first post of this thread for another reason the biker may have 'bottled' it.
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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I think the idiots in cars that pull out at junctions without looking are the brainless ones my friend.
By the way i own a car as well as a bike and therefore i always look very carefully when emerging from a junction.

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do you mean less brains than we could ever imagine
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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Let's compare like for like...a modded scoob versus a modded bike...

YouTube - Ghost Rider - BusaTurbo


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YouTube - F1 vs Bike
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and its a road bike

YouTube - F1 vs bike
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jjones
how much power, presumably its been on the rollers? have you run a quarter mile, if so what time did you post?
well like I said my car went on the rollers today at scoobyclinic and it made about 390'ish hp So it did ok
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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End of arguement (sp?), car is faster

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and its a road bike

YouTube - F1 vs bike
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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This could run on & on Steve, what have you done?!

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Terminator X just would like to ask if you have ever riden a modern litre superbike not pillion i mean actually riden one yourself???

Maybe 08 Blade, Gixer 1000K7orK8, ZX-10, R1 or even a Busa or ZZR14. Just like to know if you have experianced any of these machines.
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