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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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So, in your opinion, how does it compare to the WR1, If better, how?
Careful Ed, You'll have your own column in Top Gear mag soon with all these Questions.

Can picture you now with your note pad in hand lol. Either that or in court with a White wig on.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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So, in your opinion, how does it compare to the WR1, If better, how?
the most obvious thing is the control you have over the car ... in the wr1 you could only control the diff, so it was in permanent attack mode all of the time. in the 08 you can disable the traction control (something tiff, funnily enough, neglected to mention) and change the throttle and turbo response to suit the driving conditions you are in. Secondly the torque is noticeably more in the 08, which makes having a proper smash up and down the gears much more exciting.

In addition i've found that the 08 feels much lighter and balanced than the wr1. i feel like i'm driving something much smaller and potent.

on the looks side i miss the huge rear spoilerage of the wr1, however the 08 looks sleek and menacing in the guise that i have it. it lacks the noise but that's easily sorted.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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the most obvious thing is the control you have over the car ... in the wr1 you could only control the diff, so it was in permanent attack mode all of the time. in the 08 you can disable the traction control (something tiff, funnily enough, neglected to mention) and change the throttle and turbo response to suit the driving conditions you are in. Secondly the torque is noticeably more in the 08, which makes having a proper smash up and down the gears much more exciting.

You've had it out on track then?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
are you basing your comment on ownership of a wr1 and a new sti or just the short test drive you had??? if it's the latter you really can't make a valid comment because i owned a wr1 for two years and drove it in all conditions ... whereas you have not.
Firstly I can make any comment I wish whether you regard it is valid or not is another mater DON'T BE NOSHY ITS ONLY MY OPINION AFTER ALL

My car has all the Mods the WR1 had except for the colour so I guess I have driven a WR1 for a considerable time . Of course you had a few additional mods

I had the new Sti for the morning and as I already qualified its new and a demonstrator.

I wasn't as impressed with the new one Thats all I am saying

But once again I am sure Prodrive will improve it then I will certainly consider ordering one IN WHITE with BLACK WHEELS
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrs ESC
Careful Ed, You'll have your own column in Top Gear mag soon with all these Questions.

Can picture you now with your note pad in hand lol. Either that or in court with a White wig on.


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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by phil_stephens
Firstly I can make any comment I wish whether you regard it is valid or not is another mater DON'T BE NOSHY ITS ONLY MY OPINION AFTER ALL

My car has all the Mods the WR1 had except for the colour so I guess I have driven a WR1 for a considerable time . Of course you had a few additional mods

I had the new Sti for the morning and as I already qualified its new and a demonstrator.

I wasn't as impressed with the new one Thats all I am saying

But once again I am sure Prodrive will improve it then I will certainly consider ordering one IN WHITE with BLACK WHEELS


lol that is ridiculous ... "my car has all the mods of a wr1 so it's like having one"

it's not a wr1 mate so you didn't own one at all!! you can't make a comparison argument regarding two cars you've never owned. you had a morning with a new sti yeh ... i've had one for nearly a month and done nearly 2000 miles. I owned a wr1 for two years and did 35000 miles! it's laughable hearing people make comparisons based on 2 hours with a car vrs a car they've never owned.
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Originally Posted by Adidas
You've had it out on track then?
i'm not going to comment on that within a public forum mate.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
it's laughable hearing people make comparisons based on 2 hours with a car vrs a car they've never owned.
To be fair I've seen and sat in the new car. I've already decided I don't want one, so I don't even need to test drive it!!
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
no mate that's why i forked out over 30k for one!! what do you think!!!!

the drive is awesome ... makes me feel exactly how the wr1 did
REALLY!!!??????????????
The front looks fab, the rear is a little disappointing......... I can't comment on the drive as I have not had that experience yet, but as long as it puts a smile on your face, thats all that counts!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
lol that is ridiculous ... "my car has all the mods of a wr1 so it's like having one"

it's not a wr1 mate so you didn't own one at all!! you can't make a comparison argument regarding two cars you've never owned. you had a morning with a new sti yeh ... i've had one for nearly a month and done nearly 2000 miles. I owned a wr1 for two years and did 35000 miles! it's laughable hearing people make comparisons based on 2 hours with a car vrs a car they've never owned.
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Originally Posted by phil_stephens
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Sorry your opinion is right and mine is wrong

i knew that already
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REALLY!!!??????????????
The front looks fab, the rear is a little disappointing......... I can't comment on the drive as I have not had that experience yet, but as long as it puts a smile on your face, thats all that counts!!!!!!!
true ... what's the puzzled look for?
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To be fair I've seen and sat in the new car. I've already decided I don't want one, so I don't even need to test drive it!!
cool ... you'll have an amazing ownership of cars that you base only on looks and what they feel like to sit in and not how they drive
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
cool ... you'll have an amazing ownership of cars that you base only on looks and what they feel like to sit in and not how they drive
And one that I can actually get my legs under the steering wheel and sit in comfortably. Something you little blokes will never have a problem with
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
true ... what's the puzzled look for?
Only coz when I spoke to you, I think when they were beginning to launch them, I thought you said you wasn't 100% sure on them?
I mean, I was a definite "hater" of them to start but then after seeing one in the flesh, I can see why they are loved by some...... I was never sure when they changed from classic to newage, although you could still see "Subaru" in the design, they got it back with the Hawk Eye, and now it seems they have lost it again with the Hatchback version.
Don't get me wrong, your car is awesome looking, but its hard to believe its a Scooby. Call me old school I guess?
Maybe my opinion will change if I drove one..................hint hint!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Adidas
And one that I can actually get my legs under the steering wheel and sit in comfortably. Something you little blokes will never have a problem with
you should try the extended seat runners
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Only coz when I spoke to you, I think when they were beginning to launch them, I thought you said you wasn't 100% sure on them?
I mean, I was a definite "hater" of them to start but then after seeing one in the flesh, I can see why they are loved by some...... I was never sure when they changed from classic to newage, although you could still see "Subaru" in the design, they got it back with the Hawk Eye, and now it seems they have lost it again with the Hatchback version.
Don't get me wrong, your car is awesome looking, but its hard to believe its a Scooby. Call me old school I guess?
Maybe my opinion will change if I drove one..................hint hint!!!!!!
yeh back in aug you're correct ... i was unsure. but after seeing it in the flesh and then driving it my mind was changed.

we'll have to arrange a little test drive then eh.
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
yeh back in aug you're correct ... i was unsure. but after seeing it in the flesh and then driving it my mind was changed.
I'm a bit confused. About 18 months ago you were certain you were buying one, then a year later you're not certain, then you change your mind again.

I hope the salesman didn't pressurise you into buying something you didn't want.
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i think the Mazda looks quite nice
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
yeh back in aug you're correct ... i was unsure. but after seeing it in the flesh and then driving it my mind was changed.

we'll have to arrange a little test drive then eh.
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Originally Posted by WRX_Dazza
i think the Mazda looks quite nice
I hope thats not the little green eyed monster showing.....

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Originally Posted by Adidas
I'm a bit confused. About 18 months ago you were certain you were buying one, then a year later you're not certain, then you change your mind again.

I hope the salesman didn't pressurise you into buying something you didn't want.
i may be young but i'm not a mug ... when it comes to investing a huge stack of cash i've worked very hard to get I am the person making the decision ... not the salesman. I'm not a sheep!
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no-one to talk to in the herts section????
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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dont post on Herts ESSEX BOYS are more fun....
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Evening mate hows you??
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter 300
Evening mate hows you??

Yeah not bad - you? How was your track day?

Back to topic - Not that MY opinion should be anything to go on - but its like most things - you either like 'em - or you don't. Some things grow on you - and I think that the new scoob will be one of those things!
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