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Old 14 May 2007, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
Hardly a scoop really. TG tested it this month and think it could be better. Now the CCXR is a fine machine and green too

No....Top Gear tested the S5.....not the RS5.....we must wait for that one.
Old 14 May 2007, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by martyrobertsdj
No....Top Gear tested the S5.....not the RS5.....we must wait for that one.

As they implied it is just a re-bodied new A4. Hardly ground breaking....Audi big grill, big engine and no driver involvement.....................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Old 14 May 2007, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
Hardly a scoop really. TG tested it this month and think it could be better. Now the CCXR is a fine machine and green too
Was that not the S5 ?

Evo tested it too, and did say it could be better. RS5 should address that just like the RS4 addressed any doubts about the S4.
Old 14 May 2007, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
As they implied it is just a re-bodied new A4. Hardly ground breaking....Audi big grill, big engine and no driver involvement.....................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Its not a rebodied new A4

Anyway this article is wrong.

The RS5 WILL have 480hp!!!! 100hp less than the upcoming RS6.

Read it and weep BMW M
Old 14 May 2007, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheRings
Its not a rebodied new A4

Anyway this article is wrong.

The RS5 WILL have 480hp!!!! 100hp less than the upcoming RS6.

Read it and weep BMW M
I don't suppose you drive a Volvo and your father drives a Merc?
Old 14 May 2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
I don't suppose you drive a Volvo and your father drives a Merc?
I dont understand?
Old 14 May 2007, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
I don't suppose you drive a Volvo and your father drives a Merc?

Old 14 May 2007, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheRings
Its not a rebodied new A4

Anyway this article is wrong.

The RS5 WILL have 480hp!!!! 100hp less than the upcoming RS6.

Read it and weep BMW M
What is wrong with it??? S5 not RS5 yes but what else is wrong? Oh a re-bodied new Passat instead or is that a Superb..........still another car lease triumph for Audinary zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !!!!

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Old 14 May 2007, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
I don't suppose you drive a Volvo and your father drives a Merc?

Old 14 May 2007, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
What is wrong with it??? S5 not RS5 yes but what else is wrong? Oh a re-bodied new Passat instead or is that a Superb..........still another car lease triumph for Audinary zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !!!!
Get with the times the A4 hasnt shared a platform with the passat for fookin years
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheRings
Its not a rebodied new A4

Anyway this article is wrong.

The RS5 WILL have 480hp!!!! 100hp less than the upcoming RS6.

Read it and weep BMW M
Audi would do better to sort the handling of their cars - even the current RS4, which is the best RS car, is quite understeery. I used to have a RS6 and it is basically a normal A6 with an epic engine. M cars tend to be more of a rounded package for people who like driving.

580 bhp on the road is just plain silly.
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheRings
Get with the times the A4 hasnt shared a platform with the passat for fookin years
Fishing for a bite and got one No doubt another Audinary Lover
Old 15 May 2007, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Skittles
Audi would do better to sort the handling of their cars - even the current RS4, which is the best RS car, is quite understeery. I used to have a RS6 and it is basically a normal A6 with an epic engine. M cars tend to be more of a rounded package for people who like driving.

580 bhp on the road is just plain silly.
I wonder how the "understeery" RS4 managed to blitz the 'ring in under 8 mins then. Not bad for a near 1700kg car.

Anyway RS4 only understeers for people that are not good drivers and need the understeer as otherwise they wouldnt be able to handle all the power.

Heres a guy who knows how to drive, and is oversteering/drifting round corners.

YouTube - rs4 into the dung

Also have videos of the audi S8 oversteering. You morons and evo mag guys just arent very capable drivers. You idiots need electronic goodies and mass oversteer tendecy cars to help you go sideways
Old 15 May 2007, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
That is a fine looking car....... but when all is said and done, you are still a boring dick!
LOL

Its also an artists IMPRESSION not a picture of the actual car.
Old 15 May 2007, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheRings
You morons and evo mag guys just arent very capable drivers. You idiots need electronic goodies and mass oversteer tendecy cars to help you go sideways
I believe that comment is from a Transit van driver!!

FFS.....what a bell-end you are.........you REALLY are!!!

Please also remember.....RS4 £55K.....Impreza £30K tops. They are different classes of car......one is a A and B-road weapon, more than capable of making extremely rapid progress in crappy conditions, adored by many, loved by many, and "reasonably" priced.....the other is an Audi.

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Originally Posted by LordOfTheRings
You idiots need electronic goodies and mass oversteer tendecy cars to help you go sideways
Electronic goodies? Audi are guilty of having just about every electronic nannying aids of all manufacuturers with the likes of DRC, EDL, ESP, EDB, ASR etc etc , and like you know how to drive sideways! Its the lack of the nannying aids that allows you to drive the car how you want to!
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheRings
I wonder how the "understeery" RS4 managed to blitz the 'ring in under 8 mins then. Not bad for a near 1700kg car.

Anyway RS4 only understeers for people that are not good drivers and need the understeer as otherwise they wouldnt be able to handle all the power.
Your new name is just sooo appropriate. Lord of the Rings LOL LOL
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Luv that one!!!!
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Originally Posted by jonc
Electronic goodies? Audi are guilty of having just about every electronic nannying aids of all manufacuturers with the likes of DRC, EDL, ESP, EDB, ASR etc etc , and like you know how to drive sideways! Its the lack of the nannying aids that allows you to drive the car how you want to!
so then how come the RS4, S3 S8 R8 ETC all do it then?
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Shhhhhhhhhhhh.
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LOTR/AL = Toilet Duck, always on about getting round the Ring
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheRings
so then how come the RS4, S3 S8 R8 ETC all do it then?
presumably its because when they do, they're usually out of control end up crashing into a tree or lamp post or a smoking wreck!

So are you now saying that having "electronic goodies" is a good thing

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Cant people keep threads on topic for change???
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The "ring" is not terribly realistic of real public roads- its mostly smooth with some tight curves and many sweepers. The corvette is a so-so handling car
and it does high 7:40's round the ring. Same with the Dodge Viper- somewhere around 7:50's. The ring needs just a few things, massive power, massive tires and massive *****.

Lets all stop using the ring as a benchmark for handling. The average b-road or mountain pass is a far better test. JL
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Are there any potholes and 4inch deep manhole covers at the ring?
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it will get slaughterd from a rolling start by the new m3 as the audis quattro system is a big disadvantage once on the roll.

take the e46 m3 and the new rs4 for example, not much init upto 80mph but after that the m3 pulls away at a pretty alarming rate.

new m3 will be the better car.
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It will be interesting! M3 V RS5 or RS4. The new M3 is said to be lighter than the old one. That will make it some 200kg lighter than the Audi. That is hell of alot!

I expect the M3 to be the drivers car. But those images do look good
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I had a Fiesta 1.6 Zetec Sport on loan last week while our Landy was in the garage. Pains me to say it, but it was so much more fun to drive than my Audi. A complete hoot.

Just wish Audi would learn to build their cars to provide feedback, albeit I can't include the RS4 in this context because I've not driven one.
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
I had a Fiesta 1.6 Zetec Sport on loan last week while our Landy was in the garage. Pains me to say it, but it was so much more fun to drive than my Audi. A complete hoot.

Just wish Audi would learn to build their cars to provide feedback, albeit I can't include the RS4 in this context because I've not driven one.
They reckon the new wave of Audi's are a lot better i.e the RS4 and new S3, Tiff raved about the R8 which surprised me.

My old A6 2.8 handled like a bloody barge it was horrendus
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheRings
Anyway RS4 only understeers for people that are not good drivers and need the understeer as otherwise they wouldnt be able to handle all the power.
Sloblocks

You might notice that the handbrake is used several times to initiate the oversteer. At other times the car is 'Scandiweden flicked' into the bend, the normal way of getting a car that doesn't want to oversteer into a rear end slide. Have you not seen even FWD cars that can be made to momentum oversteer using this method ?

The RS4 is setup and designed to understeer. The engine would be further back in the chasis and potentially a more rearward bias used if it was not.

Still a lovely car, sounds uber with the right pipes


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