94impreza

Lol a WRX is a poor man's STI though i would say. If i had the money i'd have a Type-R or P1 but i don't so i've bought what i can afford. I would assume the buyer of a boxster would have also considered a 911 in all its various guises, looked at its price tag then looked across at its baby sister.
I'm not 100% sure of the showroom price of a Boxster so lets say for example its £27k, so i consider my car to be financially worth a tenth of a boxster.
£ for £ obviously my WRX is more value, but obviously not "worth" the same.

When you consider you can pay 1/10 of the money for a like for like performance car, then you'd assume the buyer of the boxster hasn't really done their research, and the majority of their purchase has been swayed purely by the badge. I'm not saying they should buy a 13 yr old car but maybe looking at cars like the EVO for a similar value would get a far better performing car.
Anyone in a similar financial position to me would understand the feeling you get leaving a boxster behind (even if only by a few feet) because automatically i think "Toff **** with more money than sense" and i would assume they automatically think "Chav Subaru heap of junk". It must be fairly embarassing with your expensive new bit of kit being shown up by such an ageing car with a yobbo reputation.

Oh and i think we're missing one big point, an Impreza is primarily a family car whereas a boxster is purely made as a sports car. I'd have an S2000 over a boxster anyday. But throwing your keys onto a table to show off your Honda keyring doesn't quite have the same effect.

davyboy

I think there are many other factors to buying a car than just performance.

Using your like for like anology - then I should shop at Lidls as it fills me up the same as waitrose food. Or live in a big ex council house rather than in a nicer area as the house is the same size.

As people earn more money they find ways of spending it....thats life.

The Chief

I think people are missing the point slightly here.

its not just about ***** out performance - if so then stick with a highly modded Scoob or buy a Bike Engined/V8 Westie!!

Its the overall experience that made me appreeciate the Boxster.
My Modified Classic woudl run rings around it 90% of the time, but i would
still buy a Boxster if i could afford it.

Secondhand there a bargain 15-16k gets you a 2.7 or a little more a 3.2, great handling - and trust me they do handle great, a softop for those summer days and an exhaust note to die for - oh and that feel good factor that my Subaru would never replicate!!!!


A poor mans Porsche - normally said by people who have never drove one

Tobisausage

Or by those who cannot afford either

Matteeboy

What sort of poor man can afford a £40k car anyway?

The type of person that thinks their battered old Vectra SRi is faster than anything because a cop did 158mph in one once.

Andygreer

iTrader: (4)

I could of affored a STI but i decided to go for a WRX due to the insurance issue, no way in the world would i pay 2.5k for insurance. not in a million years

It was a Evo 8 Fq320 or a Subaru the insurance was just too much to pay.... so i went for a WRX

Varboy

yep, there are many reasons why people buy WRXs over STis and it isn't necessarly down to affordability, so no I wouldn't say that a WRX is a poor man's STi.

back on topic....

davyboy

It's as much as a poor mans Sti and the boxster is a 911. Maybe a Boxster owner does not want to pay the extra maintenance and insurance?

Back on topic....

Tobisausage

He couldnt afford the insurance?

Matteeboy

Maybe Boxster man wants a mid engined and balanced car rather than one that although leads it's class, does actually having a engine right at the **** end pendulum style?

A relative recently got very near to a Cayman S purchase having also tried to Carrera S. Money isn't really an issue but he genuinely preferred the way the Cayman drove.

Varboy

if you can afford (truly afford, not credit afford) a new to nearly new Boxter S then I don't think TBH you will be overly concerned by the cost of the insurance

The Chief

A Boxster is a genuine softop designed from the ground up - unlike the 911 convertable which just looks bloody ugly to me

davyboy

I'd say the same about a WRX owner, I'd doubt the Sti insrance was not THAT much more...it certainly wasn't for me when I owned one.

Varboy

probably true.... but that's what the chap posted to

I didn't choose a WRX over an STi on the basis of insurance cost, with 6 points for an AC10 and AC20, insurance on a lawnmower would be high

of course I do honestly regret the choice of a WRX over a STi on a regular basis

Scrappy9

I drive a poor mans Porsche a 944S2 Cab turbo, used to own a P1.

The Porsche in my opinion is better made and has the benefit of being a soft top.

Mine has approx 280 bhp but is only rwd, I find it difficult to get the power down, compared to the P1.

I am also not as confident in the Porsche's handling, its ok on smooth roads but find it a handful on twisty bumpy roads.

I believe the boxter to be better handling than the 944 due to it being designed as a soft top.

As for boxter being a poor mans 911, you can pick up a good but older 911 for the same money as a boxter.

May be some people actually like them, I like the look of them.

RMA26

My brother has just bought an 05 plate Boxster S (3.2)

Will be interesting to see how quick it is, as i've driven the smaller of the two before & wasn't impressed

Out of interest, what would win

A Boxster S (Standard), or a modified 53 plate STI (390+bhp & 350 torque), off the line?

Bro reckons the Boxster would anhilate the Scooby

davegtt

Hate to say it Id go with the Impreza as the Boxster S isnt exactly quick IMO. Had neck and neck with an early S in my renault upto the limit

davyboy

Not exactly slow I'd say...............

Boxster S
Carrera 2

Acceleration from 0 - 100 km/h (0 - 62 mph)
5.4 s
5.0 s

Acceleration from 0 - 160 km/h (0 - 99 mph)
11.8 s
11.0 s


Elasticity 80 - 120 km/h (50 - 75 mph)
6.6 s
6.5 s

The Chief

With nearly 400bhp i dont think you've got a prob

RMA26

Not mine (I wish), A friend's - So the scoob would spank the Boxster's **** then!?

The Chief

Only on accelerration

The Trooper 1815

iTrader: (31)

No a Vectra GSi 3.2 V6 not a tooleater Chavalier SRi

Seamaster

and where will you be doing this speed?? Most talk bollocks here. Your either the nutters that tear around roads causing mayhem or you you keep it for the track. so doing legal speeds etc and driving in a safe manner most cars are equal these days. Its th edriver that makes the difference.

I was coming down the A40 before Christmas and went past a veyron thing. Pure driving skill. the car couldnt keep up with me . Today I toasted a Supra around Hyde park. the guy didnt have the skill to manover such a car in tight traffic. Me ,I was like matt dillon in Borne identity driving the mini. guy couldnt keep up with my skill and coolness. maybe his car would have been faster if he took off tons of silly "go faster" stickers and the MDF spoiler.

Matteeboy

I think you catch my drift though.

All "sporty" Vectra drivers now think they can do 160.
Sort of.

Flatcapdriver

And that just about sums up the ridiculous assertion that a Boxster is a poor man's Porsche, given that many people (myself included) prefer to buy drop tops that have been designed from the outset to be just that. Lopping the roof off, increasing rigidity using floor struts etc just doesn't cut it in my book, leading to scuttle shake and other handling ills.

Who'd seriously want to spend all that money on a 911 that's had the roof chopped off? A GT3 - yes, I can perfectly understand that but not one that's been buggered about with.

Apart from the stupidity of some people comparing their Scoob (you've got to wonder at the type of owner these cars are attracting nowadays) with a Boxster, particularly when they've spent thousands modifying one and then comparing it to a standard Porsche, there seems to be a complete lack of understanding of what the car is all about. Unlike the Impreza, the Boxster actually handles well and is a very entertaining car that stops and corners extremely well. Its not designed for straightline speed but given that the majority of people on here can neither afford to buy one, let alone run one I don't understand why they're commenting on something they know little about.

Seamaster

They ar eonly trying to "Big up" a car that has the second hand value of a road kill fox. Check out the for sale forum !! not like "The finest scoob in the country" sold quick !!!


Boxster is a great classic car. The WRX has a place in history for sure. A lot of car for the money. but no class and a terrible image. also so cheap and badly serviced/looked after as they have entered into the "neds Budget"


I would love any boxster . Combined with a good driver you will still have a fast A-B car.

Varboy

oh dear, oh dear

please people, read the posts

a lot of people here are comparing their scoobs against the Boxster S in terms of performance.

Yes a Boxster S will blat a standard WRX in a straight line
it would probably be evenish with an STi
a STi PPP well may have it
a modded WRX STi may well blat the S

They are comparing against the scoob as it a yardstick to which many on the board are familiar. If this was the MLR forum then people would be comparing to the EVO, this is not necessarily a Scoob is better than a Boxster S thread though maybe a couple of people have stated that through their posts.

no, the Boxster is not a poor man's Porsche

oh I forgot: (why I don't know because there are so many people who are so keen to remind us) and why do they have to remind us so often, if they think the scoob is so bad then get lost, SN will be a better place without you. If this is not your intention then please accept my apology

scoobs are crap, chavvy, driven by neds cheap as ****, no class, terrible image

LONG LIVE THE SCOOB!

Seamaster

Yes ..long live the standard scoobs been driven with class. all the Designed by jade Goody wrx's with 4 donks all with designer haircuts or no hair as the higher % of owners seem to have !!


How long before wrx's are under £1500.00 ??? another year?


Boxsters will never be a Neds mobile .Long live the Boxster.

Varboy

yes, thank you for reminding me again that I drive one of the cackest cars on the planet, I will advertise it on Autotrader tomorrow

wait a sec, there's no market for 2nd hand scoobs, I'll ask my pikey mates to go and torch it outside the tower block where you live

rb5037

LOL, these threads come up once a week and i **** myself reading them.

Get yourself an Audi and you'll beat both the scoobs and Porkers


People have there own opinions on whats not as fast as THEIR car. They find out whether they're right when they come against one on the tarmac.

I can see it now, Kev's sitting with his car mag comparing all the 0-60 times.......

faster, faster, faster, faster, slower, faster, same, faster, faster, slower, etc...... then puts post-it notes on the dash warning him of what cars not to play with

There's a similar topic on the Bikes section.

My R6 got beat by an Audi


Just own and drive the cars you like. Just because you think they're crap doesn't mean they are.

I don't think the MD of Porsche would've kept the boxter going this long if it was a failure and likewise for the scoob.

But then the original Boxter still looks like the 2006 model.

Can't say the same about scoobs


Night all