]Rolling road list

1. PaulCrafts
2. Simon
3. CB
4. SteveJackson
5. Dolla
6. s3emo123
7. stu
8. Mick
9. JB (The Stig)
10. Sticky
...This ^ list FULL...10 CARS max....
(Reserve List max 5 cars only)
1.Nimrod350(Dan)

 

[]Rolling road list

1. PaulCrafts
2. Simon
3. CB
4. SteveJackson
5. Dolla
6. s3emo123
7. stu
8. Mick
9. JB (The Stig)
10. Sticky
...This ^ list FULL...10 CARS max....
(Reserve List max 5 cars only)
1.Nimrod350(Dan)[/quote]
2.Dave carter.

 

Rolling road official running list

1. PaulCrafts
2. Simon
3. CB
4. SteveJackson
5. Dolla
6. s3emo123
7. stu
8. Mick
9. JB (The Stig)
10. Sticky
~~~~~~~~~
^This list ^ FULL. 10 CARS max....

(Reserve List max 5 cars only)

1. Nimrod350(Dan)
2. Dave carter.
3. Martin (Sti300)
4.
5.

 

Nice one ^^^^ Mick that looks better.

 

Don't want to throw the cat in amongst the pigeons, but what happened to the idea of anything that was over-subscribed being drawn from a hat? Does that not apply to this, or are we just not implementing the idea?

Just think that if that's the way we're going to do things it should be for everything rather than 'select' events.

 

That was agreed...

 

Good point, maybe post a cut off date for everyone interested . .then pull the names from a hat?

Just to complicate mattters . . . if thats the case . . who does the draw?

 

Well sticky as u have brought the matter up,not my choice mate.
Scooby clinic will only take 10 cars & 5 reserve cars only,the reason for this is that everybody can get 2 or 3 runs in.
And let's be fair the amount of club members that do get involved in events we will be lucky to fill this amount.If i remember right the last RR day we had i think 2 went,good job we did'nt have a hat for that....

 

Don't know if it helps, I'll only need the one run to get a figure, as only want to know what it is, before my new clutch goes in to cope with a tweak to the map

Maybe we can squeeze 10 in plus one run for me?

 

But you will anyway

 

I think that, that ruling is well and fair, but truly believe the event organiser should get a bye for such draws.

It would be seriously unfair for Paul not to get drawn when he has put all the work in!!

Should we not wait till we have bust out on the 15 before we go to a draw ??? (Ans = yes)

 

Never thought for a minute that the next Ltd event wouldn't cause a debate... we certainly have to fine tune the process, especially as some events will be more limited in time and spaces... and demand may be very high...

I'll use this as a vehicle to state my case, but should be taken to include all possible events..

IMHO

I do agree that Paul (organiser) should get a bye...

I also think that the number should be drawn from those wishing to attend, regardless of the number.. Bust on 15 or 20? there's always a chance that someone will drop so No16 may get a run...

Paul (organiser) has to decide on when the draw is made as a drop dead date has to be set so that poeple know they are in...or out. I think a few weeks is acceptable and we could make the draw this Saturday at Nostell.. (anyone got a lotto machine? )

As this is a 10:5:any (10 running, 5 reserve and any amount above) it may help to draw 1-10 runners, then 11-15 getting first refusal for drops and 16+ getting possible drops into the reserve category..

I'd be happy to draw as I'm not going...

 

Simon mate is your car a 2 wheel drive, if so not sure if it will run on the clinics RR.I will give them a ring in morn to see .

 

Yes it will. they had an MX5 turbo on there on Saturday

I have said all along that the organiser of any event should get in there no question. Same with Dave for the PD tour, trackday, etc.

Really didn't mean to cause upset, but it was discussed and agreed upon at the EGM.

 

Sorry but this as not been sorted like the PD day,iam not putting it to the vote for the simple reason that there is never enough intrest from club members.Take nostell for one, just 1 point we have 62 members in our club & only 31 of them as paid their subs. Not good enough at all .
Everybody on the rr list as put their name down and know what is happening
this event as been well sorted out if i start changing things now it will end up like the nostell event no one knowing what the hell's happening.
if anybody is not happy about the way this as been sorted out they are welcome to remove their names from the list...

 

With respect Paul, what happened to taking a democratic view?

Okay, in the past RR days have fallen through due to lack of interest, however that can't be said to be the case in this instance, and it's looking like there'll be a cracking turn out. My original post was not made out of bitterness, as I'm on the list of runners. It was made to point out that an agreement had been made that any limited events that were over-subscribed would be drawn in future. As you're the organiser then it's your call, but what's to stop anyone doing the same in the future? We can't be having one rule for some and another for the rest.

It's not a question of not knowing what's happening. If a cut-off time for those wishing to run is set then the draw can be made in advance, as Al suggests. That way everyone will have a clear idea of who's running, who's in reserve, etc. well before the day. I can't see how this will cause any confusion.

Just my 2p

 

If nothing else it's opened up a debate

 

Sticky as for rules been made, was it not the same meet that it was decieded that first man to post should be the person to organise the event.
So what happend to nostell,So let's not go down that road on whos right or wrong hey.The people who have put their names down to run in the reserve positions have done it at their own will..And let's be fair we an't filled the last 2 places yet....

 

I have no problem with organising anything, including Nostell.

What happened there, I think you'll find, is that Mick had already contacted the organisers prior to me posting the thread, and he has subsequently done most of the work on it.

As for the last places not being filled, it's open to 10 people to run, therefore when it gets to number 11 surely it's time to open the hat?

I'm not trying to make things awkward or start any rows. I'm simply playing Devil's advocate and pointing out what others may also be thinking.

Had this been organised by someone else and your name been 13th on the list how would you feel?

 

Hi guys just a sugestion to ease matters would a second date be out of the question so that all members who want to do the rolling road don't miss out

 

Would'nt mind one bit, cos i would still enjoy the day in fact i will take my car off the list.

 

]Rolling road official running list

1.
2. Simon
3. CB
4. SteveJackson
5. Dolla
6. s3emo123
7. stu
8. Mick
9. JB (The Stig)
10. Sticky
~~~~~~~~~
^This list ^ FULL. 10 CARS max....

(Reserve List max 5 cars only)

1. Nimrod350(Dan)
2. Dave carter.
3. Martin (Sti300)
4.
5.[/quote]

 

As long as it's not THREE WEEKS FROM THIS ONE

(I work one in three Saturdays )

 

No this date as been sorted and booked at the clinic,they have to book the mappers u see.ive just been back in contact with the clinic and kev say's all 15 will run no problem..No matter what date u set someone is always going to be let dowm.

 

If all 15 can run, then we have no issue.
Question arises when number 16 puts their name down.
A second date or hat draw can then be considered.

Can we have that debate if & when that happens?

 

For future events . .

How about post a cut off date for all interested parties to post their names by, then draw from a hat. All names should be drawn, so if someone drops out, the next reserve moves up a place?

I can provide as many numbered golf ***** as required for the draws

That way everyone knows the score with whats happening, and as mentioned before, its only fair the event organiser gets a bye

 

Paul.. I'm trying to send a PM.. Clear your box!!!!

 

CLEARED

 

Is sticky guilty for causing this hoo haa

What the hell are we debating drawing names for when the places are not even filled, for gods sake guys........ a debate for debates sake

was it not agreed that paid up members get priortiy in the draw senario??, there has to be some kind of comitment to the club, otherwise joe bloggs can walk into a meeting, say he is a member of the WYIOC and then get chosen above a active member, that just seems all wrong to me???




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Yes it does look a bit silly 62 members & only 30 paid up