Well done Ray! Lets see some of your fantastic work then!

I actually think £60 was a good price, I couldn't do that in 2 hours. I doubt anyone could from scratch. I also doubt anyone could have set up zencart in that time.


If anyone here can do a new design of that site that looks professional for £60 and wants to post it up here I have loads of work I can send your way, I'd really love to hear from you.




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I'm looking for a place to host my site at the mo.
Point me in the direction where I can host it for free (for a few days) and I'll show you.

 

Agreed Rich, for £60 you will get some joker who probably does it in his spare time. Its easy for anyone to get hold of stuff and spend a little time using it and say they 'know' it. Would you take your scoob into a garage and let a mechanic who taught himself maintenance in a few days service your car? Nah doubt it!

 

Tell you what ray, just email me your stuff garykind@hotmail.com and I'll put your site in my space if you like.

 

I'll email you it tonight as soon as I learn how to turn my 'local folder' into a remote folder

 

Got what you paid for there, hehe.

As above lots of people think they can put a website together, it's madness how many people actually make a good living out of it!

I don't confess to being able to do it cheaper, but if you want something better then let me know. I enjoy working on websites, the prices i charge and the work i produce reflect it.

 

Ditto

Scoobynet is funny at times

 

I taught myself how to use a pencil in a fairly short period, but I'm no Degas.

Using the tool and being a good designer are not the same thing.

 

and where did I say I'm a good web designer?

 

Professional or original? Reusing existing templates you could turn out a single page with a shopping cart around pretty quickly, it would just look like a lot of other sites.

 

It was implicit in that you decided to reply to a thread about what constitutes good web design with your assertion that you learnt Dreamweaver in 2 days.

 

there you go jumping to conclusions.

FYI I'm a product designer so a know a little about visual language. I'm no expert but I get by.

 

It looks bad, first impressions last, don't advertise until you get it sorted!!

On a positive note, it's clear what the site is about and the worst elements - Bad alignment on different size screens and buttons too small for otherwise large graphics are easily fixed.

Anyone who does much web site design could improve that 100% in 20 minutes.

Depending on the size of the business I would prob start again and look to pay a few hundred and make sure you see work samples first!

 

Thanks for the alarm engineer comment, never been callen a robbin leech before .....well once

 

It's not great, but heck for £60 you can't expect much can you ?

I've seen some sites costing 100x that which weren't much better.

Wishing her all the best with her venture

 

PS. If anyone on this thread is a good webdesigner, then I'd be interested to see some of your work, as I have a few projects I need developing.

 

Ok thanks for all the comments. I love your honesty
How about a little competition then.
I am looking for a new logo for a new site im going to get done
We can put them on here and then run a poll to see which one is the best and the one that wins i will use.
Anyone up for it?

 

for free then...think i will pass

if you value your business you would pay someone for the job

 

You've already seen what you got for £60 - imagine what your free logo will be like
Maybe Ray can learn Photoshop in 2 days and do you one

Good luck!

 

My wife is an alternative health practitioner, and TBH many of the related sites I've seen aren't the best around. First opinions count though for most people, and if your front page looks rushed it could reflect badly on the business.

I knocked my own together - www.bestside.co.uk, and given that it was fairly straight forward, am now offering to do sites for small businesses, most of whome don't have time to learn how to how to do it themselves.
I reckon charging £250 is reasonable for upto 10 pages, though I need to do some research for that. It costs best part of £100 for the domain name +hosting package anyway, so there still isn't much profit in that.

I'm doing one for a health practice, which contains all their policies. Sadly it has to be password protected, so I can't use it for advertising!

I'm not advertising here BTW, I don't have tome to take anything else on.

 

Not wanting to pee on your fire Mr Whittle, I wouldn't use that site as a good reference for offering design services to others.

Good on you for doing your own site, but it has that "My First Website" look to it.

 

complete with spelling mistakes

aprt from some small mistakes, I think the site is okay - could do with some colour though, but that's just my opinion.... I have seen LOOOOADS worse than this.

fyi - the services and clients buttons go to blank pages

 

£60 can get you a really good flash template that you can edit yourself very easily, dont listen to these over paid web developers!

 

I created this site for a bloke at work and charged him £50, I think it's clear and easy to use and he was chuffed with it.

www.funkychoc.co.uk

 

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I'm no expert either, after doing my old site a couple of years ago and successfully letting our property in France I did a site a couple of months ago river cottage france.com, they recently sent an email thanking me for the site after getting a lot of interest.
They do advertise thier property with a link to the site, obviously I wouldn't expect the bookings to have come just from having a website, I advised them to advertise and have a link to forward any interest.

Wannascoobydoo - Keep it simple and have good quality pictures, there is too much going on for me, drop the background and have simple buttons or just hyperlinks and dont display your email address due to spam.

Lee

 

Indeed, it will just look like 10,000 other sites, not necessarily a bad thing!

LMAO @ RichB

 

The point i was trying to make was you all think you are that good a little compitition would prove who was good and who the bull$hitters where,
And i get a free logo

 

No offence m8, but i suppose he paid for what he got

 

wannascoobydooandafreelogotoo you aint getting **** for free!
Actually, I'll rephrase that, what you get for free *will* be sh.t!! :

LOL

Try here: http://www.logomaker.com/