mg driver

some stats from letstorque bhp site.

215 bugeye .......................225 blobeye
1400 kg ..............................1400 kg
156 bhp/ton ........................163 bhp/ton
0-60 6.30 ...........................0-60 6.03
0-100 18.15 ........................0-100 17.12
60-100 11.85........................ 60-100 11.09
1/4 15.08 .............................1/4 14.81
terminal 91.16 mph ..................terminal 92.99 mph
drag 1/4 14.68 ........................drag 1/4 14.41
drag terminal 93.90 mph ..............drag terminal 95.82 mph

clio 172 ..................................clio 182
1060 kg .................................1060 kg
164 bhp/ton ...........................174 bhp/ton
0-60 6.64 ...............................0-60 6.34
0-100 17.43............................ 0-100 16.33
60-100 10.79 ...........................60-100 10.00
1/4 15.06 .................................1/4 14.75
terminal 92.98 mph .....................terminal 95.04 mph
drag 1/4 14.86 ...........................drag 1/4 14.55
drag terminal 94.61 mph............... drag terminal 96.73 mph



all this proves is that it will be totally driver dependant ,the better driver would win on the strip or track wether he was in the scooby or the clio.The scoob is quickest off the line but the clio is faster once on the move.

p.s ,a blobeye will need 245 bhp to crack a 13.9 sec run so thats one hell of a backboxoh and the blobeye is 221 bhp not 225 so i twill be a frac slower than the figures say.

Senior_AP

It's been done for me.

See post above this one.....

172 quicker than bugeye, 182 faster than blobeye.

chris n`nic

You`re not raining on my parade m8...just not listening. The subaru is going to be quicker off the line thanks to the excellent grip! 0-60, 0-100 is always going to be difficult for a light fwd car....How much was your back box on yours....I have spent about £500 and added very little in the way of bhp and managed a 5.7 0-60...also auto express (iirc) tested a cup and got a mid 17 to 60 but then tested a car with a couple of thousand miles on it and knocked over half a second off it...all seems to be getting nearer and nearer....I know if you up the boost then the scooby would add a fair bit of power but if I can keep with 260bhp classics from 50 to over 100 then surely a blob/bug with 230 ish wouldn`t be as close?

Chris

chris n`nic

Wow this is a good one.....of course this magazine doesn`t count because they can`t drive!

"sgcooby quote"

Well we can safely say this magazines comments are irrelevent if they cant launch a sccoby off the line quicker than 7 secs to 60. Have all the roadtesters just passed their tests. One magazines opinions does is not the be all and end all. A meganne FFS lol and a beemer, nuff said i think. Beemer costs how much?????? oh yea about 27k basic so not a good comparison really is it. Also why would I want a bloody front wheel drive car with 225bhp. It will be pish as soon as it rains. 7 secs to 60 ha ha and they actually published those figures the mag must be run by retards.

Love it!

Chris

sgcooby

I think you will find that EVo mag is well respected so the figures must count for something. Some daft dutch mag who no ones heard of and cant launch a scoob quicker than 7 to 60 are obviously of a lower caliber. At least i base my arguments on some sort of fact rather than making up stuff like some of you people seem to do. Bear in mind i also quoted Renaults own figures so simply extracting some of my quotes doesnt paint the whole picture does it. Anyone can say they beat another car so thats the end of it but the fact i use other publications and manufacturers stats at least gives my arguments some credibility. More than yours anyway.

At the end of the day i was not the one making daft claims that a clio could tear a scoob a new **** hole. I am merely correcting you. Both very similar cars for performance but you clio drivers cant handle that and seem to have to lie or make up stuff. Why cant you accept that they are similar, have you got an inferiority complex as you drive a girls car?

sgcooby

I never claimed to have a different back box. What are you speaking about????? Please read threads more carefully before you reply.

chris singleton

11 pages and still going strong

Wonder if we can make it to 20 pages?

Maybe some trolling will help, clio's are only driving by girls or gheys and despite the comments above are considerably slower to 60 and 100 than a bog standard WRX, discuss

turbotroll

Those clios are quick, however they just couldn't live with my modded saab 900 once on the move, and neither could most subarus either. Then again, it probably isn't a fair comparison as you don't know if the other driver's trying - still good fun though!

chris n`nic

My apologies sgcooby...I got you mixed up.

But I know many people who say evo isn`t that reputable in some ways... Whats to say that the guy who tested the Clio didn`t launch it properly? You try to sound intelligent but the resort to the old `girly clio`comment....you do realise there is more than one type of clio don`t you? I see (an no offence to Subaru Sport owners) more old people in Scooby Sports...does that mean that all classics, bug, blob, ra sti etc are all driven by old people...of course not. There are a lot of girls in clios but I think you`ll find that most are 1.2 etc. and not the faster sport variety.

I guess any opinion that goes against you is wrong so I suppose I`m wasting my time...all I know is that if I can compete with a 260bhp classic then a heavier, less powerful car isn`t going to be as quick

Chris

davyboy

Evo used to have the bug eye WRX down at 18 secs to 100mph.

Those blob eyes certainly make a massive difference to performance ;-)

sgcooby

So you say you can compete with a 260hp classic so thats it. You say thats the case so it now becomes fact does it? Dont think so. I could say ive beaten ferraris and the like but it doesnt mean **** all it just means im speaking **** like you are. Not sure what you mean about any opinion going against mine must be wrong. How do you suppose that. I based my arguments on what ive read from Renault and a reputable magazine where as you just make stuff up. Please speak from a position of fact or express your opinion but dont assume because you say something then it must be right. It wasnt me getting my knickers in a twist about how a clio could woop a scoob it was one of you clio owners. All i did was point out the your claims dont tie up with what several reputble sources claim and I would be more inclined to believe their accurately obtained results rather than you and your mates with their stopwatches or from results in a street race. I bet every time you overtake someone you believe you have handed their *** to them. Sad.

Senior_AP

Yes Davy, they do!! Get in the 21st century!!

Didn't you know this?? Those "blob" headlights reduce wind drag co-efficient to within 0.57789 millibars thus enabling the car to accelerate a whole second quicker to 100mph. Only however, if running on Optimax, Aircon off and all windows securely closed.

sgcooby

Yes i bet they did. But when the editor bought a wrx he changed it. Amazing how you can change facts to suit your opinions.

TheJesus

lol, any point you may have had is now irrelevent as your just being petty now. it's pointless having a debate with someone on your maturity level as you fail to realise basic facts. sure one magazine may have one result, but at the risk of repeating myself what are the SQM times for each car? and i dont mean what magazine got this or that or what your mate Trev told you in the pub last Friday, I'm talking real people and real world figures. Chris' car has done a 14.1 SQM, we have someone on here that has (by the acknowledgement of other Scoob owners) a freakishly fast Scooby running a 13.9... now, one car is 4WD, the other is FWD, is this becoming anymore clear now? any idiot will realise that on the move the Clio is quicker. Look at some of the times people on Clio Sport and Williams Clio are getting and prepare to **** yourself, time some of you removed your heads from your ***** and smell reality

out of interest what scoob do you own, is it modified and where are you based? I'll happily show you that not only can a Clio live with a scooby, but certain models will be choking on my fumes, I guarantee it.

PS - try actually reading other people's threads if your going to slate what is written, Chris car has proven results, I have the video at home of his 0-60 in 5.7 sec or whatever it was. His isn't the only Cup that can do this either...

sgcooby

Very mature response. Pity you didnt read my threads properly first. I dont make any claims about stats for either car i merely point out what other sources, more reliable and reputable than you, have stated. Its not my opinion im stating i am referring you to someone elses test results. By the way i dont know anyone called Trev. If you read all my threads you will realise i have allways stated that a clio could live with a WRX. I never said anything other than that. There may be slight differences in the times to 100 mph for example and the publications i have seen all show the WRX 'slightly' faster. If you can show 'FACTS' to the contrary then i wont dispute them. but you dont all you do is make claims. As i have said many times b4 both cars are fast and very similar but it was not me but one of you clio drivers who started all this nonsense by claiming a clio cup is far faster than a WRX but it just isnt. So grow up and get your fact right before you start ranting at me you pratt.

TheJesus

oh my good god, are you completely stupid??? yet again you either failed to read what was in front of you despite quoting it, or it's going in one ear and out of the other... Chris' car and other's for the ****ing thousandth time HAVE proven SQM's!!! (that's standing quarter mile for the un-educated). A magazine is one source of info, but as i've seen Chris times first hand before then these are more real to me and the hundreds of other people there watching that some magazine test where all we get is a few pictures and their word for it... afterall, certain mags have been known to bull**** before due to the fabled golden handshake. Like I have already said, I have Chris on video from Santa Pod or York and these people use real timing equipment. As far as i'm concerned Evo can say whatever they want, you and I were not there, so how these can be more real figures than ones I have seen with my own eyes and also have on video I really don't know.



Anyway, jog on son, somewhere a village is missing an idiot.

Please also note how no blob-eye or bug-eye owners seem to be coming to your defense and this is a Subaru site... speaks volumes.

mg driver

how can the blobeye scooby have a massive difference in performance over the bugeye when the engine poutput has only gone up from 215 to 221 bhp???

tbh i would discount mag figures and trust dragstrip tests more ,,the letstorque site has far more info and data than any mag , a mag tests one example of a car ,how many of each model have been up the pod,,flippin hundreds

chris n`nic

Your attitude stinks tbh m8...Most of the people on here have an open mind but you obviously can`t see past your seemingly un-ending book of stats. I can`t do anything more than tell you what happened. He is a good friend so it wasn`t like I was just racing someone random on the motorway. If you don`t believe me then fine...I really don`t have to prove anything to anyone.

Good luck with the blinkers

Chris

JCScooby

13.9, 14.1 Quarter mile times, whats all this? stop living in the past with these nonsense times mate. We scooby owners moved on from that many moons ago and now look at bettering our 10 second and below 1/4 mile times. Now clio sport and williams drivers will have skitters running down the inside of there trouser leg.
14 second 1/4 mile

chris n`nic

I suppose those times are all with just decats as well Just how many people are in cars capable of those times?

Chris

TheJesus

we're talking about a standard WRX you plum

let me guess, you run 9's all day long and that's with 4 heads in the car, a boot full of ice and only a HKS filter... innit

JCScooby

Well without doing a national survey i cant put an exact figure on it. But it is FACT that subaru owners are now getting 10 second 1/4 mile and below. A substantial amount aswell i might add.

JCScooby

We were talking about a Saab and a clio at the beggining of the thread you pillock

TheJesus

so the question is, what is a substantial amount? I've only heard of a handful of Scoobs in this country that can break into the tens and considering the amount of scooby owners on here it's bound to be less than 1% so lol

TheJesus

yes, that was about 10 weeks ago tho matey... keep up

chris n`nic

I think when he said substantial amount he meant the cost to run/modify to that standard

Chris

JCScooby

The point being made was that anything seems to get thrown into a thread that wasnt even about a subaru. So i thought, well i might aswell add my wee FACT as that seems to be the done thing on this thread. So, to end all the arguements i mentioned that a substantial amount of scoobys(that being loads and loads and loads more) of scoobys are braking the 10 second barrier
ah well, thats that wee debate sorted out

chris n`nic

http://www.totb.co.uk/scooby-shootout-ii/

Defo no denying these are quick cars but the fastest are just in the tens and I assume these are the faster ones around being such a big event. I have seen some of these and they are usually sponsered almost race cars or have had £20k + spent...As I say awesomely quick but don`t make out that most scoobys are 10 second cars

Chris

JCScooby

I never said that most are or made it out to sound like that. I simply made the point that there are a fair number around making those times. Yes, i agree that it would require spending a few pounds, but i was just noting that this is a target alot of subaru owners are aiming for, knowing that it is a realistic target within there cars ability.

chris n`nic

Sorry m8...I must have misread where you said a substantial amount are getting 10secs or quicker...

Chris