Ralph Wiggum

lol cliott won't stand a chance against the top imprezas , his car can barely run 11s, let along mid to low 10s he's along way off,

mikeGG

Glad you said that Ralph was gonna say something similar myself. Perhaps a head to head with that Roger Clark 700+bhp STI8 would be appropriate! At least thats still a Subaru rather than a Audi TT engine in a Clio shell.

Senior_AP

172/182 is about as quick as a WRX bugeye in a straight line. Why? Cos the scoob has more power, but is heavier. The clio, less power and lighter due to size/build quality. Not forgetting the fact the scoob has 4WD, which hinders straight line performance somewhat.

There, easy.

chris n`nic

Nice post m8...intelligent and witty. I tell you what...bring me a std wrx and I won`t be `staying with it` but pulling away all the time. Did you not read the post about the P1? He has compared it to his brothers cup (which incidently runs the same times as mine) and from a roll the cup was with him to 80-90mph! Yet when in the cup it feels nowhere near as quick as the scooby. People like you spoil sites like this...there have been useful posts about comparisons and you come along sounding just like a `chav`....shouldn`t you be in a clio?

Chris

JCScooby

If ur running 350bhp in a scooby then you HAVE to know how to drive. If your only previous experience had been driving a clio 182 then you would not be in the least bit ready to take the wheel of a serious car.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

'If ur running 350bhp in a scooby then you HAVE to know how to drive. If your only previous experience had been driving a clio 182 then you would not be in the least bit ready to take the wheel of a serious car.'

No, you have to know how to exercise restraint, any pillock can drive one.

JCScooby

No, you have to know how to exercise restraint, any pillock can drive one.[/QUOTE]Yeah and that pillock couldnt use the car to its full potential bcoz his only previous experience was driving a clio182. I tell you what though, driving a clio, you would become a half decent DIY mechanic coz you would never be out from under the bonnet repairing the lump of ****!

davyboy

lol

I give up, where do they find them

JCScooby

a clio 182? erm......a renault garage i think

Ralph Wiggum

std wrx's bug eyes are slow though lol

your point being pmsl

Senior_AP

Similar performance due to similar power to weight ratio, simple as

Now, about that Saab....

chris n`nic

Maybe you should read the rest of the posts ralph...Jonto was saying his could and did hammer his Cup in any situation at any speed...pMsl

Chris

Jonto

Spammy.

I don;t have a subaru, i had a clio cup, which i have just sold.

Regards
Jonathan

Jonto

Ahh, davyboy, thanks for that, concrete evidence there folks, that all clios are faster than subarus.

Regards
Jonathan

The Chief

**** me i though this thread was all sorted on Friday and we had all decided to take a chill pill.

Thing is as i see it, The Clio Cup is arguably the best hot hatch out there at the moment with regards to performance and handling ande is almost if not on par with a standard Subaru in dry conditions, the Subaru on the other hand was an icon in the nineties and has been caught up in terms of performance, by your Hot hatch, M power and Evo brigade, it is still however a great point to point car - even in standard form with the potential to become a fire breathing monster if tuned!!!!

Senior_AP

M Powered BMW's were always far superior than any offering from Subaru.

That aside, yes - hot hatches are not really much slower than entry level scoobs these days.

The Chief

I would not say far superior, looking at the original scoob's qtr mile time is not far off an E36 M3, although when BMW introduced the 321bhp Evolution i admit they raised the bar so to speak! also and i'm sure you'll corrrect me if i'm wrong the M3 does not have that midrange wallop out of bends that a Subaru has, but i have not drove an M3 so i really cant personally comment, just spoke to people who have owned M power car's!!

LG John

I know I'm late to this thread and I only read the first few posts but......

ROTFLMAO Assuming a 5m long car you put 200 metres on another car that was trying in 5 seconds. I assume therefore your car must quater (400m) in around 8 seconds I suspect he stalled and you need your eyes checked

Senior_AP

1/4 mile times????? Who gives two *****??????

Even the non Evo M3 (e36) was in every way a better car than the scoobs of that era. Different league, new prices verified that - no comparison. One costs 18k, the other 40k.

....unless of course you're driving on sand/ice/gravel/mud.

The Chief

'cos i thought we are comparing straightline performance, ok we will take that equation out of it and do real on road driving and point to point stuff - throw in some crappy/wet roads and surely the Subaru would be superior - just because a car cost's 40k does not mean its a better divers car - i mean look at the old 205 Gti's of that era!

Senior_AP

On crappy wet roads yes, the Subaru would deffo be superior.

Good old 205 Gti's eh. Fecking excellent!!!! Much like the GTi-6

The Chief

We had some fun years ago us in a clapped out 2.0 cortina and a brand new 205 gti, crikey i swear we did not see where it went on those roads outside Buxton Ahem private run way!

RR

ROTFLMAO Assuming a 5m long car you put 200 metres on another car that was trying in 5 seconds. I assume therefore your car must quater (400m) in around 8 seconds I suspect he stalled and you need your eyes checked

Refresh your memory saxo boy. I went to the limiter in 4th from 80mph, the limiter in 4th on my car is 147mph. I went to 5th and kept my foot in for 5-6 seconds. You need to read the post correctly before you try and take the ****. Or get YOUR eyes checked.

I forgot to ask i can go from 0-150mph in 28secs saxo boy, how fast can your car do it, or how fast can a clio cup do it.?.

chris n`nic

What STD vs STD or one with several thousands spent on it?

RR

At no point have i said my car was standard, but i dont mind you putting a modded cups time up.

0-100mph in 10secs, whats the best time you have seen a clio cup do it with a modified engine and not a transplant.

chris n`nic

Well the clio cup race car only has 190bhp and does 0-100 in about 11 secs so I suppose strip the cup to the bones, sequential box, lsd, with throttleboddies would do the trick...or maybe the BB tuning Turbo which is about 270bhp would do nicely. I know you never said yours was standard but someone says (all those posts ago!) that a 150bhp saab was pulling away and you bring up that your car pulled all those car lengths on one...the connection being? Your car does sound awesome m8 and I appriciate the work that has gone into it but yours beating a 172 has now relevance to this post at all! With those times you would beat a R34 Skyline to 100....but if you raced one with 1000bhp it would be different and pointless

Chris

RR

It was a post about a clio cup vs saab and the saab driver not being impressed, he thought it would be quicker. The clio cup is the connecting point.

As for the clio cup race car is it geared for 184mph. My re-visit to the thread was to respond to saxo boys inaccurate post. Also dont think i dont like the clio cup i do. But its no P1 slayer as people try to make out. As a car in its bracket it a fine buy.

chris n`nic

Fair doos m8..we`ll agree to agree to disagree

Chris

LG John

RR, I don't know what car you have but its clearly quicker than mines. I didn't buy mines just for speed though as for the money I spent I could easily have a car cracking 100mph in under 8. Assuming its a scooby I have been in impreza's that are faster to 100mph than 10s - Andy Fs white RA, John Banks car in various states of tune and Sg72s 400bhp type-R (short box). I'd doubt any of them could put 200m on someone walking!! I'm not doubting your speed or that your car can waste a 172. I'm calling into question what is without doubt a massive exaggeration of the distance and/or times involved.

FWIW my car goes 0-topless in 6s....beat that

Very fast I'll agree but you seem to think you have some sort of rocketship and if you'd care to look up the 0-150mph time of a TVR Cerbera 4.5 *cough* 17.9 secs you'll see you have a long way to go before you can claim to have a real road weapon.

LG John

My post is quite accurate. You are claiming to put around 200 metres on a sports hatchback in 5 seconds. Thats an average of 40m a second (I know it doesn't work like that). Do you realise how far that is? Go outside and pace it out then tell me that anything this side of an Enzo/Macca F1 could dream of putting 200m on a 172 in that time frame.