Nah, they're just little men with bigger ***** extensions

 

lol

Anyone on here actually got a CB radio and listened in on lorry drivers on the motorway or something? Wonder what you'd hear!

Mustafa

 

Lorries also annoy me too when they suddenly pull out into the middle lane.However,I understand that it takes them a lot longer to overtake,turn,brake etc.
Lorries seem to overtake when much closer to the vehicle in front than other vehicles.I presume this is so they are in the middle lane for the least time possible(even if it is too long in every one elses opinion)so as to cause minimum hassle to others.
If a lorry indicated to move into the middle lane say 30 yards begind the vehicle in front,who would let it out?More likely
we'd all speed up so we're not behind it.Then the next car does it and the next,none wanting to be stuck behind it.How does the lorry ever get past the even slower one in front?It wouldn't take long for the most of the inside lane of the otorway to be going at the speed of the slowest lorry.
The lorry drivers would then have their revenge in not letting you off the motorway at your exit.

 

Have all supermarkets and shops etc that have deliveries got trainlines running next to them then?

 

Good driving tw@t

 

You moanin' lot, you don't complain when a truck is doing 50mph on a single carriageway when it should be doing 40mph !!!

 

I guess then, Mr Autocar, you're one of those tossers that hogs the middle lane? I didn't actually say I did undertake did I, I just said you could.... W@nker. Either that or you're one of those fast people that just uses the outside lane

 

Not all lorries are problem.Most of the lorry drivers quite considerate.But I do know on motorways some of them drive like muppets forgetting that they are driving a heavy lorry,not a motorbike or a car.They try to be nippy and swift and cause accidents.I remember once on dual carriageway,a lorry blocked me from overtaking(he well knew from his mirrors)and I could have had a serious accident that day!On another occasion,an oncoming lorry wouldn't slow down on blind bend,knowing that from other side other vehicles were coming too!He arrogantly drove past,covering most of the road and nearly bashing my driver door!He deffo was a muppet!

 

You can't beat the sight of lorry on a grass verge that's tried to take a bend on fast slip road too quickly.

I once saw a lorry overtaking another lorry on the A9 (single C part). He overtook on a blind, long sweeping bend just as an oncoming car came into view. Instead of braking and pulling back in sharpish he just sounded his horn and forced the car to drive on grass and mud at the side of the road.

W@nker. I took his number and rang the cops (on a hands free, of course)

I then overtook the offending lorry (safely) and slowed his journey right fooking down for a good few miles. Cvnt.

He wasn't a Brit driver, BTW. Italian.

 

If half of you guys that are winging got your *** behind the wheel of a lorry for a couple of days you would realise that plodding along at 56 is no fun for the driver either.
But if there is a truck in front doing 54 then i'll pass him if i don't this could add 15 mins to the end of the day which could be the difference between getting home with my family or spending a night in the truck!!
Sorry to say it but i am one of the ones who drives a container lorry down the A34 to Southampton Docks, and there are some pr1cks in cars that see you indicate to pull out put there foot down then slow up next to you.
Just a thought ask the Goverment to take all the trucks of the road for one month lets see how quickly we all starve to death.

 

I have had an HGV licence for 16 years. I class myself as a professional driver having taken a proper two week driving course which actually teaches you to drive and not to pass a test like a car instructor does. My test was for 2 hours not 20 mins like a car test.

All I can say is all the whingers that have passed just a car test should take a real test. Then they'll see just how good they are.

Chip.

[Edited by Chip - 8/14/2003 12:49:30 PM]

 

But this isn't about how good a driver some people are. Is it? I thought it was about lorries.

Anyways, I wanna get a CB radio just to listen in on lorry drivers conversations. If its possible!

Mus

 

WRX baker is right. You lot should try driving an HGV. Then when your chugging along you will realise how exceedingly bad the standard of car driving is in this country.

Chip.

 

I've never driven an HGV but many moons ago I hitch hiked round parts of europe and have had a fair few lifts in HGV's.

My personal opinion is that, in general, HGV drivers are the best on the road. Having been in many, I see the issues that they have. I always let one out in front of me to overtake another as they take ages gaining speed to make the overtaking manouvre. They often to have to go back to square one just because some selfish car driver won't let them out. After all once past, a car driver can quickly gain speed whereas a lorry can't.

Of course there are some bad lorry drivers who wish to overtake at .5mph more than the other lorry and also those that don't give up on the manouvre when they realise that it'll hold traffic up but they are in the minority.

Remember lorry drivers have strict rules governing their speed (they can't just go up to 80mph while passing another unlike car drivers), time at the wheel, hours driven in a day etc. (if a lorry never passes another that can add quite a fair bit of time to their journey whereas car drivers can just 'make up time' if they get delayed, lorry drivers often can't which is why, in general, car drivers need to be a little more patience and have consideration for slower vehicles.

[Edited by Dracoro - 8/14/2003 2:17:42 PM]

 

A little off the point but Car drivers will soon see anyway when speed limiters are a legal requirment on cars, Every car doing 70 mph (dreading this personaly)but its going to happen as this country is so obssesed about speed and cameras but funny how the police can never catch the feckin criminals. This is from personal experiance in last 2 weeks of getting stopped for routine checks. At 2.30 am WTF early hours of sat morning excuse ! wrong time of the day.

At 4.40 am blocked me in on my drive after following me.

Realy pisses me off

 

Maybe Lorries wouldn't spend so long overtaking if car drivers let them out in the first place?

I tend to let lorries oull out in front of me to overtake on dual carriageways because I believe it is considerate to do so. If I have to slow from 65mph to 56mph it will take me a matter of seconds to get back up to 65mph. However if the lorry has to slow from 56 to 50 it will take him time to build up the speed.

Therefore I tend to reckon that its better for me to lose a few soconds on my journey, rather than the minutes a truck driver will lose

 

why will a truck driver lose minutes?.......the difference of speed when overtaking is normally 0.0000001 mph

 

I ride my motorbike mostly these days so I'm well aware of how bad the standard of driving is in general in this country. That doesn't take away my right to be pi55ed off with being held up constantly by lorries on dual carraigeways. It doesn't mean that my whinging about it on a little website will do anything either, I'm just venting my spleen, as is my right.

I don't doubt that lorries are actually very difficult to drive and take great skill in doing so but some drivers awareness or consideration leaves alot to be desired (but I suppose that goes for all vehicles). My gripe is that week in, week out I get lorries bully their way into the outside lane whether there's a big queue of cars or nothing behind (but they can't wait for me to pass). Some take no time to overtake the slower vehicle, some take ages, some try for ages before dropping back behind only to have another go at the next hill . In general, during certain times of the day, these actions cause huge congestion problems that upset more than a few motorists.

End of rant.

 

Hi,Chip ,your'e probably laughing at this thread as much as myself.The very fact that this has been posted relates to the standard and narrow mindedness of some car drivers.These idiots should use public transport and leave the roads to professional drivers!Overtaking other lorries is not an offence ,were entitled to be there,i used £4000 of fuel alone last month,how much tax is that,eh?My truck is not some piece of scrap that should bow before all car drivers,it's £130K of high quality machine which is more environmentally friendly than a de-catted scoob.The funny thing is half the buffoons on this board who think they can drive are the same clowns that come up our insides at junctions when were turning left,or put the foot down to keep us in the inside when we indicate to pull out,then cut us up thinking we can stop like a car. I would love to even see them try to move my truck,eh,Chip, do you think they would manage the 16 speed split box.
I salute all my fellow truckers out there and as the man says ,come back and talk about driving when your qualified to do so.

Remember,every single thing you eat and clothe yourselves with was transported on a truck at one time in it's life,even our precious scoobys.

And remember get cars off the road through the day and use public transport

 

Are you one of those that indicates and waits for it to be safe to pull out?

Or one of those that indicates and pulls out regardless?

Or even one of those that pulls out, safe to or not without indicating?

Ps Cars have as much right to the roads as anyone else





[Edited by fatherpierre - 8/14/2003 8:09:12 PM]

 

I always use my mirrors and wait for a decent gap in the traffic before indicating,if it's busy i will indicate and wait for an equally courteus driver to flash me out.
There are good and bad car drivers ,likewise with truck drivers,one of the main causes is that the standard driving test is way too easy and not detailed enough.It doesn't even scratch the surface of motorway driving or basic manouvering (think of how many people you have seen in the supermarket car park that cant park to save their lives never mind drive on a motorway).Scary isn't it

 

Oh I agree with you 100%.

There are crap drivers driving all types of vehicle, and the standard driving test is way to easy with the student merely being taught how to pass the test, not actually drive.

It's just that a bad HGV driver is more dangerous than a bad car driver - on motorways, at least.

The number of times I've nearly been squashed by lorries just sliding across, into my path without indicating or indicating a split second before making the manouvre has made me weary!

I must admit there's a noticeable difference between brit HGVers and their foreign counterparts. But could be because of the blind spots due to LHD.

Are foreign HGV tests the same level as Brit tests?

 

Well I salute you Ted, you're one of the minority of truck drivers that must have some awareness of what's going on around him. I totally agree about the vast majority of car drivers and I don't doubt the difficulty of passing your HGV or driving an artic but haven't you ever seen bad or dangerous driving by a lorry driver? Or do you live in a blinkered world where truckers **** doesn't stink? I'm happy to admit as a biker and a car driver that I think the vast majority of road users in ANY vehicle are accidents waiting to happen and, like everyone elses opinion of themselves, I dont think I'm one of them. Just like with bikers and drivers there are good and bad and downright dangerous, unfortunately there are no bad truckers just dangerous ones.

BTW, my comment about taking lorries off the roads and re using the trains was a tongue in cheek comment based on the original post. So for those of you that thought I was being serious it's good news, your sense of humour bypass has worked

If only the world was run by scoobynet , it'd be a much better place.... NOT

 

When car drivers quit cutting in and taking my braking space, I will stop overtaking everything in sight thats going slower than me!

 

Or take their restriction back off again. Let's face it, coaches and buses aren't restriced down to 56mph and they carry people...

European lorries aren't restricted over here, so don't really see why our lorries should be.

 

MMmmmmmm, a loory crashing in to a car at 70mhp, lovely!

Basically that is crap, although I guess you can use this to justify it to yourself. If the roads were clear then this may well be the case, but this being England, you know as well as I do that the morotway will get congested and the lorry you overtook an hour ago will be the vehicle behind you. Nice try though.

id

[Edited by image doctor - 8/15/2003 8:36:21 AM]

 

I keep telling myself this is a tongue in cheek comment. It is, right??

 

Like most car drivers I can get a little frustrated by the lorry taking ages to overtake another. However he really has as much right to overtake as I do. I've not yet read anyone moan about the Nissan Micra who chug chugs along, trying to overtake a lorry.

I think speed limiters on lorries are a bad idea. When they where first introduced accidents shot up and have'nt really dropped down to pre limiter levels http://members.tripod.com/Cybertrucker/menace.htm

You can't really blame the driver for the limitations imposed on him.

On an A road I seldom overtake if there is less than a 10mph difference in speed. There is no point. However I can fully understand the frustrations and boredom of sitting there reading the same 'Also available in white' graffiti on the back of the same lorry for hours at a time.

I guess what i'm saying is chill. If the roads are that congested that a lorry trying to overtake a lorry causes significant delay then you're going to get caught in a jam anyway. Conversley in order to help reduce congestion lorry drivers(should and usually do) choose where they overtake. The same goes for cars that have no intention of accelerating past the other car, but would prefer to creep past.

For me personally an overtake means get past as fast and as safely as possible before pulling back in. It seems that a lot of drivers(car and truck) have different defintions.

Here's a few I've seen recently
To Overtake

1. To creep past, studying the stone chips, rust etc on the other car in as much detail as possible.
2. To blat past regardless of speed limits and road conditions.
3. To look in mirror, see 'flash car' and slow down.
4. To pull out into the right hand lane and try and stay there for as long as possible.

To be overtaken.
1. Speed up, trying to race the other car.
2. To straddle the left and right hand lane at the same time.
3. If other car has overtaken you safely, then flash lights and gesture.
4. To pull out in front of overtaking car(see overtake)
5. To close gap between you and car in front.
6. To enter into 'road rage' mode and try and 'get the overtaking car back'

 

Disagree. Jams have to start somewhere, and in my experience, this is as good a catalyst as anything. That's the frustrating thing - the road can be quite free-flowing before a lorry/lorry overtake, but in the couple of minutes it takes to complete this manouvre sometimes, the ripple effect behind can be exponentially greater.

 

Missed this classic.

Because you never drive close to another truck huh?

id