Corner?

Pete

 

i just dont see how they desurve it more than the army ive not got a problem with our pay but at the end of the day there pay is fine for the hours they do

 

Bottom line figures are irrelevant, four people on the same salary can have vastly different take home pay.

But whilst were in an investigative mode pop round an ask a Paramedic, who doesn't get paid to sleep, to show you his basic.

 

BTW at least half the Firefighters I spoke to today did serve in the armed forces ,Falklands ,Middle East ,and other places.Their quote," been their done it " what ever that means ? Edited to add Paramedics ,totally underpaid,undervalued,**** on,but are they next?

[Edited by rallycol - 11/26/2002 12:36:14 AM]

 

it means nothin at the end of the day

 

Everyone that's done a few years in the forces has been there and done it!

It means nowt!

 

Father I agree it's not what you do but ,what you might do !

 

B2Z, i'm not deliberately trying to pick holes in your agruement, honest but if the above was the case then would you expect the guy who collects the trolleys in a tesco car park to make more than 21k a year after 18 years of service too? If they have been in the same job an have not advanced or been promoted for 18 years then i don't think they do deserve that much of a raise.

Granted, they do deserve a chance for improved earning within the service. However, I'd expect them to earn it through additional training, experience, promotion, improved efficiency, modernization, etc.

Threatening the public in an attempt to blackmail their employer is not a valid reason for a payrise.

 

OK Bravo even though we agree with each other

How do you take home a little over a grand, run a new car keep a wife plus two kids and live in a house worth £150k+

Drive to Le Man having worked a 12 hour night shift and return directly to work having driven back during the night?

To paraphrase Rolf Harris, do you know what he does yet?

 

banshi there not on 1 grand for ***** sake the union bloke said in public there on over 20000 a year and that was on the strike program on the telly so were your getin that rubish from i dont know

 

lol @ Bravo

Easy Stevie, not my fictitious figs m8
I forget to mention the cottage and barn conversion in Brittany. Oh to be exploited by my employer and consigned to a life of poverty

 

well i dont know if its just me but 1100 a month dont add up to 20000 a year but there you go lol )

 

banshi, jealousy will get you everywhere. NOW the penny drops

Maybe your neighbour was left money by their parents? Who knows, why not ask them

Second jobs. Some consultants, MDs etc have them, ooooooo but not the "working class", eh

And, au contraire Banshi, glad I have exerted some influence on you. We Agree 16% in return for modernisation

Paramedics deserve more of course

 

Yup, good on the army lads, keep up the good work!

Sod the firefighters, greedy sods, let `em sit outside their firestations over xmas, that`ll show `em how we feel [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]


Rich.

 

steve G MAN: The 21K working out to 1100 quid a month is something like this:-

Salary 21000
Deductions:
6% pension -1260
NI -1974
Tax -4342.8
Tot Deducts -7576.8
Take home pay 13423.2/year
Monthly 1118.6

Of course these are approximate figures and will vary depending on tax benefits claimed for children etc etc.
Hope this clarifies things a little.

 

Teachers in London are on strike today apparently, they want their London waiting to go up from £3k --> £6K for full time teachers and £4K for Support Staff...

I sense a trend beginning...

 

**************: Lunatics?
Me thinks sir is too kind!!

 

Nice to see that Navy lady bringing a baby out of a fire - the RAF, NAVY AND ARMY have my BIG thanks!! Doing it with a THIRD of the firemen numbers, clapped out materials AND holding their own!!

Either they are STARS or the firemen have been picking our pockets for years!!!

Pete

 

GTT
Now thats three of us in agreement, but still manintaining the argument
I'm jelous of youth, landed gentry & lottey winners, not employees. Just dispelling the poverty myth. Had't noticed any consultants withdrawing their labour in support of a ludicrous pay demand.

Great Aunt Mable certainly must have left them her fortune. The exclusive sking holiday and trips to the States would absorb three or four months pay.



Richi
The next scheduled strike will have 'em back by Christmas Eve.

Wouldn't sacrifice the Public Holiday rate of double time plus time in lieu. So if a watch commences on 23rd December thats 60 hours pay for the night shifts and another 18 for New Years Day.

Now add 40%, Happy Christmas 2003?

 

PSLewis

Have you actually read the whole of that piece of propoganda?
She didn't rush in and ****** the baby through the flames, she persuaded the mother and her baby to walk out of the house.

The tabloids sensationalised it to the point where she was the all conquering hero, because thats what will sell todays paper

I'm not saying if she had to act heroically she wouldn't have, but
just don't spout regurgitated tabloid sensationalism.

 

yea merkin and im sure you live next door and saw it lmfao

 

Steve G, if you could actually read (if not, please advise, and I will read it for you), the newspapers do actually tell you what happened factually, you just have to see through whatever crappy spin they decide to put on it that day to suit people like you who believe it all

 

im not the one reading the papers and then comein on here and postin like you are of something you knoe **** all about coz you wasent there but there you go at the end of the day if ya dident see it with ya own eyes shad up

 

Could you repeat that once again in English please?

I think the person you are referring to is PS lewis, who came on here and spouted what had happened when he clearly just saw a pic of a wren with the headline "wren hero saves baby" without having read the actual article. What the newspaper had actually written is exactly what i just stated.