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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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AndyP1,
Ive stood up for you in the past but this time you take the biscuit!

The 22B wasnt good enough for you so you binned it in favour of the P1 - You daft s*d!!!!!!!!!

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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:20 PM
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Return of the Mak !!!! i binned the STI import in favour of the P1 but have just taken del of a 22b trial - dur !
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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and it stays in the garage where no jelous, w@nking, c*nting bum bandit mothurfukker vandal can get to it
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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AndyP1...

Excuse my ignorance but what is a 22b 'Trial'....?

UK or import?

Mak the curious!
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:39 PM
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Andyp1,

Pictures?????????

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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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When per Eklund was using an Impreza for rally cross, Prodrive were building him 600bhp engines... which would last 15-20 minutes
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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Really? Was the economy any good?

Mak the stupid.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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3 months ago was 270BHP at 5750rpm

Now with a few tweaks probably 5 - 10 bhp more




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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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Oi twangy ! not on scoobs though - they were skylines etc. The guy want to know about Scoobs
Try re-reading the thread without your sarcastic/***** comments, and you'll see that I was talking about a 354bhp car!
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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WRX01 with PPP (p1ss poor power?) = guessing at about 250bhp on Optimax.

Mak 'the BHP challenged'.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:55 PM
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ok twangy tang, but the language isnt really suitable for a moerator is it ? ***** comments ? whatever they are
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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anyway ***** breath, my first statement was 750bhp and all that was quoted above that were not scoobies. Do try and keep up...
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 04:56 PM
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Watched Per Eklund's Impreza a couple years ago. Yes, it was FKing Rapid but not as quick as the other cars..... Citroen Xara's etc.

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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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I thought Per Eklunds car had 620bhp, and he had his own engine builder - but they dd last 20mins.

He changed to SAABs cos the engines lasted much longer.

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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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Trout

At £50k a go, it wasn't going to be a long term relationship
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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Cant remember whos thread this is but something about going from porker to scoob????

if that is the case then HERE ME NOW!!

mate has this afternoon put in his carra2 for a P1 ...he didnt want to get out the p1 coz in his works it caned the porker.....for real...


word to the masses

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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 07:17 AM
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Yep, Raks must have a hell of a student loan LOL
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 07:27 AM
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Type RA V Ltd

Re-mapped yesterday (GEMS)

1.7 bar

368 bhp

347lbs torque

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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 07:31 AM
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Can I ask how you all get a flywheel figure???
I only know of @ wheels figures as I have been told guessing at drivetrain losses is a true art on most dyno's.

But anyway, 284bhp @wheels.

Anyones guess as to how much at the flywheel.....
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 12:36 AM
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Any chance of a solution to this query??
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 06:10 AM
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But how did you measure the ATW figure - if I get my car measured say in 4th and 5th gear - the overall 'estimated' ATF figure is pretty much the same - but the ATW figure will be different for each gear.

It is a black art - good for comparisons - not so good for absolute statements.


Mellow,

368bhp seems pretty low for 1.7bar - is it a really small turbo? Torque is pretty good.

For comparison another STi got 363bhp with at 1.3bar..

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[Edited by Trout - 8/15/2002 6:26:52 AM]
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 11:48 AM
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My 284@ wheels was achieved in third gear on a dyno.
I thought all power runs were done in third gear to keep terminal speeds down on the rolling roads??

And also have been told that your AW figure should be divided by .7

This gives 284/.7 = 405hp??

Thats a 30% loss through the drivetrain......

All achieved with 1.4 bar boost.
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 11:58 AM
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Using 3rd, will give a higher ATW's figure, than using 4th, but the calculated crank figure should be the same.

Mark.
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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Why does third give a higher reading?? Is that because there is more torque in a lower gear???
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 02:34 PM
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mellow,

thats bloody good.

couple of things.

1.7 bar on standard internals?

where was the power run done?
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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Hey Mellow, nice figures!

You didn't get the EVO then?

What happened to you selling the car?

Paul
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 06:25 PM
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A friend of the family had a Jap imported STI 5 type ra i think with standard bhp of 304, He bew it up at 165 mph
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