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Old 31 December 2018, 03:21 PM
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Ok cheers

no guid plates at all anywhere

so I've locked the cams off so they are lined up

do I just undo the belt tensioner pulley bolt to release the tension ?
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Old 31 December 2018, 04:43 PM
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Right, all done , well removal of belt and water pump.

Ive locked off the passenger side cams ( excuse the makeshift tool i cobbled together ) , the drivers side cams spin pretty freely once the belt is off dont they !

You can see fromn the weap hole on the water pump that was the offending area ( inner seal) .

Both my sides of the cams all line up as they should but they crankshaft pulley is slightly out of alignement, shall i rotate it a smidge to get that line bang on ?

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Old 02 January 2019, 09:49 AM
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So, this timing belt with the "helpful" lines on it, doesnt help much !!

I can get the belt crank pulley line spot on, i can get the belt driver side cams line spot on, the passenger side belt line, will not tally up with the timing mark on the cam sprocket or the casing and its not because the timing is off, as you can see from the pics, even with the belt loose and just placed over the pasenger sie cams it will not match the timing marks.

How bizarre !?!??!

Im going to go by the cam timing marks and the casing marks, as long as these line up im happy i guess ????

Crank sprocket lines up






passenger side cams line up with cam mark ( i know it doesnt with the casing, havent actually fitted belt etc)





Driver side cams will not tally up with cam sprocket mark



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Old 02 January 2019, 03:36 PM
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To get all the marks to line up properly is the art of it! The belt will be too loose without the tensioner. The hard bit is pulling it tight and getting it on and everything lined up without moving anything lol.

Have you looked at the lines on the sides of the lower cam pulleys? They are the hardest ones to get lined up because they seem like they are fine but the belt is a bit loose then you realise that you need it to be a tooth further round and have to meddle with the cam pulleys a tad. It's fine to turn the crank pulley a tad to get that right.

Double check your belt, because mine had a double line for the crank sprocket, not a single like yours. Mine's a Dayco belt I think.

No belt guides at all on my V1. None in the corners and nothing on the crank sprocket. Not even fixings to add one on the oil pump.
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Old 02 January 2019, 04:24 PM
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Cheers bud, im on about the actual line on the belt will never line up with the cam sprocket as the line is inbetween the teeth rather than being on a tooth, as you can see in the pic, even when placed over cam sprocket loosely its either slightly to the left of the timing mark on the cam or slightly to the right, unlike the others that are bang on in line with the white marks on the belt.

the white lines are there to help but this 1 line being out seems to be a bit of a desgin flaw in the belt

All my pulleys are lined up perfectly its the actual white line that isnt lol

Mine like yours has no guide plates, i have had a later style uprated oil pump fitted hence like you say i never had a guide plate to refit to it. funny how early versions didnt have these, thats progress i guess ha

As i say im not really bothered about the lines on the belt, they dont do anything, just supposed to help, as long as the actual cams line up thats all im bothered about

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Oh yeah I get you. When I was lining up the lines on the belt, if I wasn't sure I'd look at how it would sit if it was on the next tooth. That way you can see that in one position the belt is close to the line and in another it's miles off. The lines down the sides were a bit trickier as I didn't want the belt being a tooth out.

Deffo get a belt guide for the oil pump. Even if it's just a stock one.
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Old 05 January 2019, 12:54 PM
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Here's a question then , are the white belt lines only meant to line up the once ?

BAsically got it all lined up , white lines and cam sprocket lines , all good

bow when I rotate engine by hand no matter how many revolutions i do the cam sprockets line up fine but the belt white lines never do , is that right ????
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Here's a question then , are the white belt lines only meant to line up the once ?

BAsically got it all lined up , white lines and cam sprocket lines , all good

bow when I rotate engine by hand no matter how many revolutions i do the cam sprockets line up fine but the belt white lines never do , is that right ????
Not unless you rotate it a few hundred times, First time I did a scoob I was the same, rang my mate at the subaru dealers before id start it lol
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Ha phew thank goodness for that thought I was going mad lol

I've got the cams as close as I can to line up I think , took about 8 attempts ha
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Old 05 January 2019, 05:22 PM
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Right, well, here are my timing lines for future reference of anyone else searching on this topic

The passenger side top cam could of been a bit more to the left but then once the belt is put on it would of been just as out as it is now but the other side , but its as close as damn it













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I fired her up for about 5 seconds 9 no radiator etc connected and she fired up straight away and no nasty noises

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