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Old 23 December 2018, 08:32 PM
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Old 23 December 2018, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Nothing meaningless or irrelevant just the truth about our supposed law.
Ok then - define how they have been stitched up and by who?
And who are you portraying as 'useless bullied at school tossers'?
Old 23 December 2018, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by b road blaster
Is Felix one of them or is he picking on some poor person going about their day
Old 23 December 2018, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Ok then - define how they have been stitched up and by who?
And who are you portraying as 'useless bullied at school tossers'?
Not on about them on about your brigade of gangsters. But saying that it seems you tried to get a couple of unsuspecting scapegoats to make it look like you have been doing something.
Old 23 December 2018, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Is Felix one of them or is he picking on some poor person going about their day
And when I have done that - since you appear to accuse me of such?
Old 23 December 2018, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Not on about them on about your brigade of gangsters. But saying that it seems you tried to get a couple of unsuspecting scapegoats to make it look like you have been doing something.
And I again ask - define how they have been stitched up and by who?
Old 23 December 2018, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
And when I have done that - since you appear to accuse me of such?
You all do it just to justify your existence. Seen it, been there, watched it. You (police) and the entire justice system are in each others pockets telling lies to gain a conviction whether just or unjust.
Has it ever occurred to you the only reason people phone the police 99% of the time is to acquire a crime number you are good for f**k all.
Old 23 December 2018, 10:45 PM
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Come back on here tomorrow when your sober if you want to debate the matter properly

As you don't know me or know of any of the people I have helped and supported through a whole host of problems and issues I suggest you are misguided by your research (if any). How about missing from homes, sudden deaths, transports to hospitals, etc etc which don't receive a 'crime number'?

And to get back to the topic and I ask again......again - define how they have been stitched up and by who?
Old 23 December 2018, 10:55 PM
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Listen Sir I don't drink purely because of the likes of yourself, so jumping to assumptions doesn't become you but I forgot that's what you people do and then tarnish peoples reputations in the process. As for missing from homes, sudden deaths, transports to hospitals, etc etc. I've done all that out of the goodness of my heart never mind getting paid to do it.
Old 23 December 2018, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
As for missing from homes, sudden deaths, transports to hospitals, etc etc. I've done all that out of the goodness of my heart never mind getting paid to do it.
You've investigated missing from homes & sudden deaths?
Old 23 December 2018, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
You've investigated missing from homes & sudden deaths?
Missing from homes yes, sudden deaths in my own wee way yes and the outcome was very successful. Justice was done not like your supposed justice system.
Old 23 December 2018, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Missing from homes yes, sudden deaths in my own wee way yes and the outcome was very successful. Justice was done not like your supposed justice system.
Go on then, I'm intrigued - how exactly have you investigated these?
Old 24 December 2018, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Go on then, I'm intrigued - how exactly have you investigated these?
Now your started to sound like copper, so no business of yours.
Old 24 December 2018, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Now your started to sound like copper, so no business of yours.
So you haven't then - wondered how you were going to update PNC, complete the coroners paperwork, inform SOCO, request postmortems, undertakers, etc etc
Old 24 December 2018, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
So you haven't then - wondered how you were going to update PNC, complete the coroners paperwork, inform SOCO, request postmortems, undertakers, etc etc
More than one kind of justice in this world and you don't have to contact any of the above. Now away to your bed it'll not be long before you've to go out and tell more lies to justify your pay. Nighty night have a good Christmas hope you have to work
Old 24 December 2018, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
How do you know it was a wrongful arrest, as apposed to it simply being insufficient evidence to charge?
Insufficient evidence? The police have stated the 2 people are no longer suspects/persons of interest that sounds like wrongful arrest to me. The blokes boss had already told the press it wasn’t him as he was at work at the time of the incidents FFS.

The press are just as bad for plastering photos and info all over their papers about 2 completely innocent people.

Both are a complete disgrace.
Old 24 December 2018, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
More than one kind of justice in this world and you don't have to contact any of the above. Now away to your bed it'll not be long before you've to go out and tell more lies to justify your pay. Nighty night have a good Christmas hope you have to work
Ha ha - pot & kettle spring to mind if you're going down the line of lies as you have clearly not dealt with sudden deaths, missing from homes etc etc
And can you justify your accusation that I have lied - if so where & when?

"...More than one kind of justice in this world and you don't have to contact any of the above...." Go on then, I am still intrigued as to how you can assign this comment to a sudden death, but I won't hold my breath for your answer.

Nope - not at work. Off from 19th December until 8th January - so I will have a good Christmas, thank you

Old 24 December 2018, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us


Insufficient evidence? The police have stated the 2 people are no longer suspects/persons of interest that sounds like wrongful arrest to me. The blokes boss had already told the press it wasn’t him as he was at work at the time of the incidents FFS.

The press are just as bad for plastering photos and info all over their papers about 2 completely innocent people.

Both are a complete disgrace.
You can't just go off what his boss has said, unless his boss was with him the whole time - if he was guilty, this would have given him the perfect alibi to commit the offences.

If, as part of the inquiry, information has come forward to state that these two have been complicit in the offence, they have to be investigated, interviewed etc. If this appears to be a sophisticated attack on Gatwick then you will have forensic considerations for the house, car etc. This can only be done properly if the persons are in custody so you can compare their accounts without the possibility of any collusion. There must have been sufficient grounds to arrest otherwise their detention would not have been authorised.

I'm not sure how else you would want a proper investigation to be done?

I agree that the press should not have published photos, etc until the conclusion of the enquiry, however they have a duty to report the news.
Old 24 December 2018, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
You can't just go off what his boss has said, unless his boss was with him the whole time - if he was guilty, this would have given him the perfect alibi to commit the offences.

If, as part of the inquiry, information has come forward to state that these two have been complicit in the offence, they have to be investigated, interviewed etc. If this appears to be a sophisticated attack on Gatwick then you will have forensic considerations for the house, car etc. This can only be done properly if the persons are in custody so you can compare their accounts without the possibility of any collusion. There must have been sufficient grounds to arrest otherwise their detention would not have been authorised.

I'm not sure how else you would want a proper investigation to be done?

I agree that the press should not have published photos, etc until the conclusion of the enquiry, however they have a duty to report the news.

You seemed to have ignored the fact the police have said the 2 people arrested are no longer suspects. Wrongful arrest then. They had no evidence on them apart from information from members of the public. So some neighbour who doesn't like them reports them to the police because he is into flying drones and lives in Crawley - must be them then So 36 hours in police custody when completely innocent. This then lead to the press plastering them all over the national news. I'd certainly be taking legal action if it were me.

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They are no longer suspects after the investigation,interviews and forensic searches of the address - only after this have they been exonerated from the incident.

They would not have had this information at the point of arrest - ie what they will say in interview, what was found in the house etc etc. We don't have a crystal ball to see what the eventual outcome will be from their arrests.

What was the information given to the police which lead to the arrest - was it a neighbour, was it a series of people, was it other information.

If the member of the public has given evidence and is prepared to stand up in court with it, should we ignore them??

If the police did not act - would the 'neighbour' come forward to the press and say "well I told police who it was and they couldn't be bothered to do anything"

This site and the press would then be a wash of - "police couldn't be bothered again to do their job, too near Christmas for them"

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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
You seemed to have ignored the fact the police have said the 2 people arrested are no longer suspects. Wrongful arrest then. They had no evidence on them apart from information from members of the public. So some neighbour who doesn't like them reports them to the police because he is into flying drones and lives in Crawley - must be them then So 36 hours in police custody when completely innocent. This then lead to the press plastering them all over the national news. I'd certainly be taking legal action if it were me.
Forget about him he's a typical copper he twists the wording about to try and suit himself. Then starts rambling on about a subject that has previously been discussed for no apparent reason cause he has already had his answer. He and the rest of our supposed police force need to live in the real world not the one they think exists. Not right saying it but nearly everyone of them that makes a statement on the news looks retarded.
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And another thing he comes on here trying to justify the police **** ups he should be told to leave his work at work or stay off here.
Old 24 December 2018, 12:01 PM
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Wow, complete generalisation alert! The vast majority of police are honest, hard working people, under a lot of pressure and under often difficult circumstances. It's like saying all doctors are murderers because of Harold Shipton. There are chancers and people who do bad things in all walks of life, does't mean you tar them all with the same brush.
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Forget about him he's a typical copper he twists the wording about to try and suit himself. Then starts rambling on about a subject that has previously been discussed for no apparent reason cause he has already had his answer. He and the rest of our supposed police force need to live in the real world not the one they think exists. Not right saying it but nearly everyone of them that makes a statement on the news looks retarded.
What I am twisting, you were the one who made the comment of.....

Originally Posted by 1509joe
bullied at school tossers who stitch innocent people up for brownie points. Happy Christmas.
I have merely asked the question as to justify why you think they have been stitched up - which you can't appear to answer. You then make the comment of....

Originally Posted by 1509joe
As for missing from homes, sudden deaths, transports to hospitals, etc etc. I've done all that out of the goodness of my heart never mind getting paid to do it.
I have again responded to your comment as to how you have managed to deal successfully with a reported sudden death to which again you can not seem to answer.
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Originally Posted by Felix.
What I am twisting, you were the one who made the comment of.....



I have merely asked the question as to justify why you think they have been stitched up - which you can't appear to answer. You then make the comment of....



I have again responded to your comment as to how you have managed to deal successfully with a reported sudden death to which again you can not seem to answer.
Forget about him he's a typical copper he twists the wording about to try and suit himself. Then starts rambling on about a subject that has previously been discussed for no apparent reason cause he has already had his answer. As previous comment. You Sir are hilarious you've done it AGAIN.
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You still can't answer the questions then.......
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Originally Posted by Felix.
You still can't answer the questions then.......
Could, but to you no comment.
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Originally Posted by Felix.
They are no longer suspects after the investigation,interviews and forensic searches of the address - only after this have they been exonerated from the incident.

They would not have had this information at the point of arrest - ie what they will say in interview, what was found in the house etc etc. We don't have a crystal ball to see what the eventual outcome will be from their arrests.

What was the information given to the police which lead to the arrest - was it a neighbour, was it a series of people, was it other information.

If the member of the public has given evidence and is prepared to stand up in court with it, should we ignore them??

If the police did not act - would the 'neighbour' come forward to the press and say "well I told police who it was and they couldn't be bothered to do anything"

This site and the press would then be a wash of - "police couldn't be bothered again to do their job, too near Christmas for them"
I think having actual evidence would be a good start not just taking some member of the publics word for it Even the Government has come out and said what a ***** up the police have made of this situation. Completely and utterly incompetent.
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Originally Posted by Felix.
How do you know it was a wrongful arrest, as apposed to it simply being insufficient evidence to charge?
It does sound like a wrongful arrest to me.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46675612
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I wouldn't bother trying to have a discussion with the sanctimonious little ***** cause he's like a woman (with no disrespect to women) he's always right even when he's wrong.


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