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Old 12 August 2017, 02:32 PM   #511
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Wonder how many non-whites would agree with that.
Poverty lines in the U.K. are diverse. Although a white person is less likely to live in a low income household than a Bangladeshi, there is only a 10% less difference in chance a white person will be born into poverty than an Indian or Black Caribbean.
Whereas an Indian or Black Caribbean is 40% less likely to be born into poverty than a Bangladeshi.

The theory of poverty percentages being a colour chart from white to black is simply a myth.
http://www.poverty.org.uk/06/index.shtml

As for the US a black person is most likely to be born into poverty but given a 5 year period a Hispanic person is more likely to remain in poverty.
Asians are actually the least likely to remain in poverty, less so than white people.

The statistics also suggest the same 'right wing theory' that you're more likely in the US to live in poverty if you lack education, a full time job and are a single parent.
http://federalsafetynet.com/us-poverty-statistics.html

The only 'white privelage' I can assume has a direct affect on a persons future seems to be that white people arent told they are doomed from the moment they are born.

As far as I am aware when a baby is born into most western civilisations they have an automatic right to education, healthcare, housing and opportunity.
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Old 12 August 2017, 02:48 PM   #512
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i think this could be the problem , you cant actually read - or you've some form dyslexia
The figures he put up only shows an increase of 200,000 jobs for June alone. It doesn't show the 500,000 as he claimed.
The right wing claims 1m jobs created since January under trump.
1 month, 200,000. 7 months under trump. 7 x 200,000 = 1.4m. I'm not saying that's how many jobs have been created but a snapshot of one month he's linked to seems to back the right wing or conservative theory.

Heres CNN saying in June that 1m jobs was rubbish. http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/01/news/economy/trump-1-million-private-sector-jobs-paris-speech/index.html

Heres CNN (yes the liberal CNN) saying trump HAS created 1m jobs only a month later.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/04/news/economy/july-jobs-report/index.html

"The U.S. economy added a strong 209,000 jobs in July, more than economists had expected. The unemployment rate fell to 4.3%, matching a 16-year low. Just after the Great Recession in 2009, unemployment peaked at 10%."
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Why would you even want to preserve a statute that celebrates slavery
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I would assume you're not being deliberately ironic. As in why would white people turn up to an apparant 'white supremacist' march to protest?.
The only reason would be to turn a peaceful protest into a riot, which the liberals do time and time again. The reverse would be for neo ***** to turn up to a BLM rally and be surprised when fighting breaks out.
It harks back to the antifa girl tweeting that she was going to a similar rally to get '1000 **** scalps' then moaning when she got hurt.

As for people getting run over it's obviously awful. However media spin already has this down as a **** running over the innocent. Just as the violence shown has been blamed on the right rather than the lefts silly decision to attend.
You don't need to search YouTube for long to find liberals standing in front of traffic repeatedly and then getting themselves run over. The video clearly shows the main car hitting a car that was obviously already being blocked.
For the main car to have been driven deliberately into liberals by a '****' then he'd have to leave the protest, walk off to find his car and drive it into a crowd. Seems far fetched to me.
But the MSM are all over it, '****', extreme right, those poor innocent liberals. And people like you lap it up.

Ultimately had they not turned up looking for trouble then it wouldn't have happened. It's like a Leeds fan wearing their shirt in the milwall home end and wondering why they got a slap.

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Can't quite believe you're defending these actions. As Trump would say "Sad".
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Old 13 August 2017, 10:51 AM   #517
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.... why would white people turn up to an apparant 'white supremacist' march to protest?.
The only reason would be to turn a peaceful protest into a riot, which the liberals do time and time again.
The 'peaceful' all-white, all men, alt-right protesters, which include KKK members and **** groups turned up to a 'peaceful' demonstration with helmets, shields, and guns, giving **** salutes, in a liberal college town with a liberal Mayor in a state with a Democrat governor. Car driven by young white man deliberately mows down peaceful counter-protesters (watch the drone footage, it's on Breitbart). You say it's an 'apparent' white supremacist march. Breitbart describes them as, I quote, "neoNazis, Ku Klux Klans members and other white nationalists". But sure, put your own spin on this.
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Can't quite believe you're defending these actions. As Trump would say "Sad".
If you think I'm defending it by saying it was awful then I think it's clear who the sad one is.
Read the rhetoric in the MSM - he steered his car into the 'peaceful protest'. Have you seen the pictures of the fighting beforehand?
https://youtu.be/wRIB3Odhu1c

Peaceful lol.

SJW - Social justice WARRIORS. Does the word warrior depict peace to you?.
Antifa - caught selling knives on their website. You don't have to look far to see what a horrific group of people these are.
BLM - black people deserve free college tuition and whites don't. Whites are not allowed to attend BLM rallies. Sounds hypocritical of blm to attend a 'racist' protest.

This is not good vs evil. It's one set of ***** vs another set of *****. Quite often the liberal ***** out **** the right set of *****. This time the right sided ***** out **nted the liberal *****.

And trump called the violence sad. That's violence for both sides. The MSM are getting over excited he hasn't condemned just the right.

Equality right. You can't call for freedom of speech then attempt to silence a rally you disagree with. You can't stand with one group attempting to give one race rights over another and say you fight for equality. You can't want peace and turn up to cause trouble and provide weapons to your "warriors"

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The 'peaceful' all-white, all men, alt-right protesters, which include KKK members and **** groups turned up to a 'peaceful' demonstration with helmets, shields, and guns, giving **** salutes, in a liberal college town with a liberal Mayor in a state with a Democrat governor. Car driven by young white man deliberately mows down peaceful counter-protesters (watch the drone footage, it's on Breitbart). You say it's an 'apparent' white supremacist march. Breitbart describes them as, I quote, "neoNazis, Ku Klux Klans members and other white nationalists". But sure, put your own spin on this.
Spin lol. I notice you left out the part where the 'attack' car hits the stationary car.
Lets hear your opinion on why a car was stationary and surrounded by 'peaceful' protesters.
I see you condemn the right. So have I above. I notice there's no mention of the extreme lefts involvement.

Spin.

In every way possible I condemn the actions of the person driving the 'attack' car. I find it hard to believe he's left a rally to go get his car and drive it into a crowd. But if that's what eventually comes out as the truth of what happened then he deserves to be handed over to the family of the victim.

But condemnation is also required of the extreme left who were the catalyst to the violence.

Equality remember.
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But condemnation is also required of the extreme left who were the catalyst to the violence.
And women shouldn't wear short dresses right?
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Old 13 August 2017, 11:47 AM   #521
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Liberals 'peacefully' blocking roads and getting hurt.
https://youtu.be/aLRXToqUQ3A
https://youtu.be/62ymomM5opU
https://youtu.be/O-ZlWMUruDI
https://youtu.be/v_3_aCjJsrQ
https://youtu.be/01WHKbaisFE

Doesnt make it right. But perhaps if people don't want to get run over, maybe it's best not to try to stop traffic with your body.
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And women shouldn't wear short dresses right?
Still not condemning the left I see.

What do you mean about short dresses? If you're trying to somehow label me as some sort of 'rapist sympathiser' it shows your lack of argument. But a wonderfully hypocritical attempt to stereotype a person just because they have a different opinion.

Tunnel vision prevents you you from seeing your own stupidity and similarity to a KKK member.
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Why would you even want to preserve a statute that celebrates slavery
I'm not sure what I find most irritating - the fact there are so many busy-bodies about who have nothing better to do with their time than try to airbrush history with pointless gestures like the removal of this statue (or the various Rhodes statues that have caused equal fuss in recent months), or the fact there are so many no-hopers about with time enough on their hands they're willing to spend days protesting about it. The consequences of the two might differ wildly, but the vaccuous stupidity behind them is on pretty much equal footing IMO.
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Do you actually believe those good ole white boys were out protesting solely about the statue kwik

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Do you actually believe those good ole white boys were out protesting solely about the statue kwik

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^This is as facile a comment as your misrepresentation of what the statue actually celebrates. And you wonder why people get a bit wound up
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Its not a comment , its a question !
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Do you actually believe those good ole white boys were out protesting solely about the statue kwik

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Its irrelevant. They have as much right to rally or protest as anyone else as long as what they are saying isn't hate speech.
Just as BLM have a right to rally or the KKK, BF or Muslim clerics, AntiFA or anyone else.
Just because people disagree with their opinion or movement doesn't mean they should be harassed for their right to express an opinion.
This notion that any of them are somehow 'better' or more noble than the other is absolute bull****. If anything the left have a lot to answer for.
Had the left allowed the right to an opinion yesterday and stayed away there would no violence to speak of. Just as if they didn't stand in front of cars they wouldn't get run over.
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Youre just too , absolutely , its has to said wrapped up in left v right - I believe its a sickness within
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Youre just too , absolutely , its has to said wrapped up in left v right - I believe its a sickness within
Funny, I thought it was you that posted a link to the right vs left violence in the US yesterday.
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^More facile nonsense, this time in the form of the childish pretence that your so-called question wasn't largely rhetorical.
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Funny, I thought it was you that posted a link to the right vs left violence in the US yesterday.
there you go again

I was eluding to spectacle of white supremacists being allowed to march at all

the fact theyre given police protection is laughable
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there you go again

I was eluding to spectacle of white supremacists being allowed to march at all

the fact theyre given police protection is laughable
In the same respect BLM have a right to march, give TV interviews and are also protected by the police.
The 'white supremacists' applied for a permit to march and it was granted. Antifa, Blm etc didn't.

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I'm even using CNN as a link lol.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/07/09/us/lawsuit-black-lives-matter-baton-rouge/index.html

the attack last July, Long waited for police near a Baton Rouge convenience store that was known as a favorite stop for patrol officers.
Armed with a rifle, he fatally shot Officers Matthew Gerald, 41, and Montrell Jackson, 32, outside the store as soon as he saw them.
Sheriff's Deputy Brad Garafola, who apparently was responding to reports of a man with a rifle, heard the shots and took cover, but then ran to help one of the downed officers. That's when Long opened fire, killing Garafola.

Long then shot Officer Chad Montgomery, who had pulled up in front of the building. The bullet grazed his head.

In a nearby parking lot, Sheriff's Deputy Nicholas Tullier, then 41, was in his cruiser to run the tag on Long's car when the gunman emerged from the woods and opened fire, shooting as he walked toward the vehicle.

Tullier was shot once in the head and twice in the abdomen and was in a coma for months.


When violence erupted at some of the protests, the complaint says, Mckesson and other Black Lives Matter leaders "failed to disavow the violence and urged its followers that violence was part of revolution," the complaint says.

"By embracing and supporting violence in protest that could have been conducted peacefully, BLM declared a virtual war on police," it says.

The lawsuit also says Long's actions when he killed the Baton Rouge officers "followed and mimicked those of another BLM activist who killed several officers in Dallas just days earlier."

Five Dallas police officers were killed and seven others wounded on July 7 last year when a gunman opened fire on them during protests against the killings of Sterling and Castile.

Investigators identified the Dallas gunman as Micah Xavier Johnson, 25, a military veteran who had served in Afghanistan.

Johnson told police negotiators during a standoff that he was upset about recent police shootings and wanted to kill white people, especially white officers, the police chief said. His online history showed he visited and liked several websites dedicated to Black Lives Matter. Johnson was killed after a standoff with police.

Long, who acted alone in the shooting, traveled to Baton Rouge after stopping in Dallas shortly after the shooting to get revenge for the recent killings, the complaint says, suggesting that Black Lives Matter encouraged the behavior.
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Angry young men

But it's not , specifically, part of their manifesto to see the country "returned " to a single color state
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So he's a white supremacist sympathizer turned violent ( Albeit in most cowardly way).
Should been locked up previously

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Its irrelevant. They have as much right to rally or protest as anyone else as long as what they are saying isn't hate speech.
Just as BLM have a right to rally or the KKK, BF or Muslim clerics, AntiFA or anyone else.
Just because people disagree with their opinion or movement doesn't mean they should be harassed for their right to express an opinion.
This notion that any of them are somehow 'better' or more noble than the other is absolute bull****. If anything the left have a lot to answer for.
Had the left allowed the right to an opinion yesterday and stayed away there would no violence to speak of. Just as if they didn't stand in front of cars they wouldn't get run over.
From most people this would seem like a bizarre and illogical rant. From you it seems pretty standard.
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But it's not , specifically, part of their manifesto to see the country "returned " to a single color state
Black lives matter. BLACK lives matter.
Neither of the heads of the BLM movement condoned violence. Of course when confronted, or information pertaining to BLM says nothing of the sort.
On a couple of occasions in only 4 years of existence black people have targeted and killed people based on the colour of their skin. The drew inspiration from BLM.
In EXACTLY the same way the extreme right wing don't actively condone violence, but it happens, or their public image doesn't specifically alienate one race.

BLM, KKK, Antifa are all exactly the same.

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From most people this would seem like a bizarre and illogical rant. From you it seems pretty standard.
the white supremacist **** Anders Brevik hunted down and shot dead 69 young left-wing/liberals on the Island of Ut°ya in 2011

if they had not been "liberals" attending a left-wing summer camp they would not have been shot

it really is that simple Martin
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