dpb

It's nearly always displayed cost / kilo underneath

If you're in too much hurry / forgot your specs/ else

That's your lookout !

alcazar

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Here's Martin, who, once again, can't stop himself from beginning his post with an insult.


All their three stores in Scunny do, so up yours clever Dick.


Relevance?


I don't have to know the exact markup, but can see it HAS to be huge if HB can sell it at £4.49 for 200g when Sainsways want £8 for the same amount. That's not rocket science.


Leaving aside Martin's seeming need to either score points, or make Remoan capital, my post was NOT about rising food prices, but about profiteering on a large scale by the big four supermarkets. If HB can sell at that price, why can't they?


Not in this case: the stuff is new stock, as it's branded "L'Or" and not Carte Noire as it used to be. And the dates on my botttles are well in the future.
Even when it was Carte Noire I always bought from them as theirs was far cheaper than Sainsways/Tossco/Morrisons/Chavsda. WHY?

At least three of those have slogans stating how cheap they are, yet HB don't...but are!

And what's the highlighted clause meant to say? That I somehow made this up just to annoy you? LOL

Cue Martin to come back and say that the big four have every right to make humongous profits by underhand means while everyone is tightening their belts. Yes, even owners of French chateaux

neil-h

I can't believe someone with their own chateaux buys instant coffee...

joz8968

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That's what I always go by - straightforward, no ambiguity.

Uncle Creepy

You gotta love it! Alcazar owns Martin... even when the topic of the thread is 'his area'.

Martin2005

only is both your minds

Richiehash

Alcazar may not but I do-
Their bread markup for example is around 270% . I work in the industry,some bread products they request to be made at a loss to the manufacturer in order to keep the overall contract.
cheers richie

neil-h

Yeah in Alcazars defence (never thought I'd say that), guesstimating the sort of mark up these places put on products isn't hard. You only need to look at the cost of the raw ingredients to realise the markup on stuff like bread (and most other baked goods i'd imagine) is going to be quite substantial.

Martin2005

It's a heck of a lot more expensive than you'd imagine Neil.
Bake goods have probably the highest supply chain costs of any grocery category.
Typically manufacturers deliver directly to store daily. Unlike most categories where product is delivered into national and regional distribution centres and then distributed by the retailers own logistics operations. Therefore there is very significant costs involved.
There are also very high energy costs associated with this industry. Finally, there's a lot of wastage.

I've worked with a couple of the major branded manufactures and I can assure you that margins are tighter for both supplier and retailer in this category, typical gross retailer margins are 20-30%, compared with 30-40% on most packaged groceries.

It's of course true that margins on own brand goods are higher, and suppliers get squeezed hard by the big retailers.

scoobypaul_temp

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Sorry - and mine

Are you not going to apologise, or at least admit you were in the wrong?

urban

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I do work for a large distributor of many products, including breakfast cereals as an example.
The big chains they supply demand a long shelf life - and in most cases its 16 weeks from date or purchase.
Anything which they receive with a shelf life less than this gets rejected.

Eventually this company have a lot of stuff that the big boys will not accept.
This gets sold of at heavily discounted prices to various "bargain" outlets, but as a job lot.
i.e. If they have 100 cases, you much buy it all, not a portion.
They also have a factory shop, where I purchased stuff recently - a particular breakfast biscuit box with 24 biscuits in the box.

I think about £2.45 in tesco, £0.60 a box.
Shelf life of approx 3 weeks

Martin2005

Err... I wasn't wrong

scoobypaul_temp

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Firstly Home Bargain don't sell L'or coffee

Martin - how is this not wrong, if Alcazar bought it from there?

Martin2005

Well you'd have to ask him that.

I checked their website, they don't stock it.

scoobypaul_temp

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No, I don't have to ask him that - sorry, I don't think he is lying about what brand of coffee he purchased, or where from.

Do you not think there is a slim possibility that the website might be incorrect, and that you jumped on an opportunity to try and prove Alcazar wrong?

Your arrogance is astounding

Martin2005

Of course it could be wrong, which is why I said this could be a local offer, or a jobbed-off short dated batch. Which would explain why it was so cheap.

Not sure what your problem is pal.

scoobypaul_temp

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I dunno, maybe your pompous arrogant attitude?

Don't get why so many people on here jump on other people's posts to try and put them down / prove them wrong. Simple as that

Martin2005

How the **** would you know anything about my attitude?

Maybe you just don't like him getting called on some of drivel he posts?

scoobypaul_temp

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Look back at post 16 Martin - you wrote it - your attitude comes across quite clearly to me in that.

I have read plenty of posts on here, from both of you thanks, and yes some of it is drivel in my opinion too BUT how was his first post in this thread 'drivel'? I don't get why you felt the need to react the way you did on this thread

Hey ho, its a lovely day out there, must enjoy it

Martin2005

It's drivel because the whole premise of his post was that because could buy the product cheap somewhere else then the big retailers must be making a 'huge mark-up' on it.

Those 2 things are completely unrelated

tarmac terror

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I dont care what the price of coffee is - life is too short to drink bad coffee.

My first cup this morning came from beans which cost me £60 for 250g - good coffee and good whiskey - two of lifes great pleasures.

David Lock

I presume you meant £6.00

Agree about the Whisky

Guns & Roses playing tonight in your patch btw. My boy off to Slash away.

atb, David

dpb

I thought it was a bit much as well ?!

boomer

Just for reference, B&M in Lichfield were selling L'Or Classique (200g) for £4.49 yesterday. Exactly the same stuff was £7.49 in Waitrose, less than a mile away!

mb

dpb

That's a lot a walking